Why Bulk ?

...gotta a ltttle Q here...why do most people revolve their gear around their diet as opposed to the other way...i have been thinking that if all your "cutting" gear provides better gains(or at least ones that are kept easier) why not use them to bulk and up your calories accordingly...it seems you see many people that think water weight actually means you got some where...i think for me from now on it is eq,tren,winny,and test mixed and changed accordingly...what is everyone else take here... ...

I've thought the same... but deca is so good

I think it's a matter of personal preference. When cutting, you're going for the ripped look so you need to be selective as to which ingredients you add that will minimize water. When bulking, you can keep it simpler and just whatever you want.... For instance, I don't pay the extra $$ to add winny to a bulking cycle because I generally don't worry about tightening up until it's cutting time, but that's me.

You make a good point though sully,diet is the key either way your heading on the scale.

Personally I'm not a big fan of injections. So I'm wondering why not just do the longer esters for every cycle and revolve your diet around those as oppossed to injecting the 'cutting' short esters on a daily basis.

Comments?

well

...my point was that you get "better" gains typically from the shorter acts....or somewhat easier kept post cycle...and if you use your classic bulkers drol,dbol,deca, and real high dose tests than you leave yourself with gainds on the scale but not much in terms of quality that lasts...i would rather keep my gains, which might mean i will take a little longer to make my gains than someone who uses the bulkers...i started using gear one year ago at the age of 27 with a goal in mind that i want to be in my best shape ever when i hit 30...i looked down the road a little, but i think to many people think of the "now" and just want size any way they can get it...DIET is the total key and i am just starting to realize what a lot of people have said from day one....DIET,DIET,DIET...

I think one of the main reasons for that, sully, is the more prolonged and gradual recovery of your natural test when you use a long chained ester. Until your natural test recovers there is nothing supporting all that fresh lean muscle mass,and it's much easier to fall into a negative nitrogen balence.My last 2 cycles,I've been switching up to short chained/short half life drugs for the last few weeks of the program and it has really helped keep the gains and help with my natural test rebound

two cents

or you can eat like a horse train like a nut and never come off and mix everything up. Thats only of course if you want to not loose anything. I mean im 30 and its good to look the way I do Ineed to loose 4% - 8% fat it might me just water though, but I have no intentions of keeping this lifstyle @thirty five and over. Good luck

I didn't even do my first cycle until I was 35.

I've never done short esters and I am in the best shape of my life at 36!!!

[I've never done short esters and I am in the best shape of my life at 36!!! [/B][/QUOTE]

...that is awesome bro...good for you...