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sully
06-25-2002, 04:12 PM
...i know if not properly prepared and educated that this shit can kill you...but...i have talked to a couple people in the medical field about its use lately and it doesnt seem they are as "scared" about it as most of us are...it seems most people are too scared to try it and that people on all the boards for the most part talk like it can kill you easier than it really can...now by no means am i saying it is not dangerous but if you had more people doing it right and passing on that info i think it would be looked at differently...and i havent heard any horror stories on any boards that have posted someone getting all fucked up from it or even dying...DNP seems pretty bad also but it seems WAY more people will give that a go but not slin...what do you guys think.....................................:confuse d:

sully
06-25-2002, 04:25 PM
Originally posted by Presser
lots of bros on these boards died from insulin bro! it is the most dangerous of all whether eduactaed or not in my opinion

...i didnt mean any disrespect but i just never heard of any problems from people...it just seems people who workout and whatever look at it way differently...and the people i talked to about arent fucking idiots...i dont know...:confused:...hopefully i can see where others stand also...

sully
06-25-2002, 08:23 PM
...i dont want to bump my own thread here...but i will...lol...just want to see if everyone views this like it is death in a bottle...why dont you here of a lot of BBers falling dead because of it, cause they are abusing it...i m talking about reasonable amounts...do you guys hear of a lot of bad shit from ACTUAL people or just from what everybody says on the boards...

Shredded
06-26-2002, 12:19 AM
If you have or can get a copy of Anabolics 2000 or the newer version it has a very good explanation of how insulin needs to be used and the consumption of at least 100 grams of Carbohydrates immediately following the use of insulin. I believe that if you do not consume enough carbohydrates after using insulin you can go in to hypoglycemic shock. You get tired and want to go to sleep. Which is what you should not do, but unfortuneately what some do. Then it is too late. Also, I have been told, that some people will build no muscle on it, only get fat. I read that the least it can do is make you fat and the worst it can do is kill you. It is available in most areas with no prescription. The reason for this was explained to me that when a diabetic needs insulin he has no time to get a prescription. Even with it being that available it looks like too much of a risk to me. Just my opinion.

frankbme
06-26-2002, 10:23 AM
Look dude insulin can kill you right away.
or it can leave you with some brain damage.
i have used it off and on and it helps some what , but you have to be careful can kill you or make you to fat
but i know bro it ant a game and can kill you in a instant, so have access to carbs, and do some more research!!!!

sully
06-26-2002, 11:30 AM
...i have done research bro...i KNOW it can kill you...that is not what i was looking for with this thread...it wasnt intended to be a newbie thread asking"what is insulin"...lol...i know what it is and what it can do...oh well...nevermind...

goldenear
06-26-2002, 12:22 PM
It's a waste of time. You don't need it unless your pancreas can't secrete it. If you want a larger insulin release, just eat more simple carbohydrates.

mbstrong
06-26-2002, 12:36 PM
Insulin is a very important key and it will do wonders. It depends on what type you people are taking. Like I said in the one thread I have a friend helping me out on things and my diet. This is one of the things we have been talking about. I never wanted to do it because of everything I have been hearing but he said it depends on the kind you are taking. This is the most important thing and this is what separates the men from the boys,lol. There is insulin out that there that you only need to suck down some carbs afterwards and that's it because it's not in you system that long. Alot of people don't know this and is pretty much a hush thing because like I said it is what separates the men from the boy's.

Choke03
06-26-2002, 12:39 PM
My Dad is diabetic. When your blood sugar goes down to dangerous levels you know immediately. You feel like someone pulled your plug, you literally feel like your going under. The good thing is that your levels can go up just as fast as they go down. If you feel like your energy got zapped and your wanting to go to sleep bad then you need to consume some simple carbs immediately (i.e. orange juice, gatorade, carbo force). If you go to sleep you run a good chance of never waking up. It is some tricky stuff to be messin with.

sully
06-26-2002, 03:28 PM
...hey MB...the only kind i would consider is humalog...in and out...and i would only want it for post workout purposes, once in the eve...what are you thinking of??

mbstrong
06-26-2002, 03:39 PM
well this guy is setting me up with everything and he is going to help me with it. But it will be taking right after my workout and taking in some carbs. I will let you know what he has planned. I think it will be only the days I work out, not sure what he has planned yet,lol. humalog is not what I will be taking though...........

sully
06-26-2002, 03:55 PM
...let me know somehow when you got it planned out...are you doing humalin-r...just curious bro...keep me informed...

mbstrong
06-26-2002, 04:04 PM
you got a pm,lol.

frankbme
06-27-2002, 11:01 AM
sully i reread your post, And i think i know what you mean now, but for any newbies out there,it good be missleading
Insulin is in the the top three drugs that kill in our "game"
I haVE USED IT AND WILL AGAIN, BUT I HAVE SOME CLOSE CALLS.
Thing is i knew what to do and kept my calm, but there are a lot of fools out there who woulnt know what to do,
I think lot people dont use couse
1 Afraid to die lol
2 Afraid of getting to fat
3 afraid of getting diabetic
(3 major side affects bro)
And yes dnp can kill you , but most people are under the impression that they can control the dosage and just suffer some minor side affects, and the fact that it can burn fat so fast is a powerful motivator in risking its use. i have tried it and liked it and i do feel its safer than insulin
Ps bro no flame here, just my after thought

mbstrong
06-27-2002, 11:14 AM
dnb safer then insulin?????If you use the right insulin and take some carbs right afterwards you are straight. I will be using it to bulk up. Since insulin shoves everything right to your muscles. I really do not see why you have anything to worry about as long as you take some carbs in. There is insulin that is out there that you only need to watch your carbs for an hour. Then you have the other brands which you need to watch your carb intake all day.
Frankbme, for the side effects that you have down about becoming diabetic. So are you saying if you take insulin you will become diabetic.

hard charger
06-27-2002, 11:31 AM
I would love to try it but not comfortable enough. Keep us posted.

DecaDent*
06-27-2002, 12:13 PM
Originally posted by sully
[B...and i havent heard any horror stories on any boards that have posted someone getting all fucked up from it [/B]

sully,those guys don't post because it's hard to stroke a keyboard when your in a coffin.........ok/dumb j/k

mb,the reason you can develope diabetes is a bit complicated but in a nutshell ....when you inject a protein you may stimulate an immune response and develope antibodies towards that protein. Antibodies are what your immune system uses to neutralize/bind and deactivate foreign proteins(like viruses) Occasionally the immune system will unfortunatly attack injected insulin and begin to make antibodies towards it,once that starts it won't stop as long as there is still insulin around...so your natural insulin gets attacked as well. This leads to an auto-immune type of diabetes. The risk is less with the Human based insulin proteins,and greater with the beef and pork derived ones,but even with human based injectible insulin the risk is not zero.

PM me what brand you picked if you get a chance. I might have some data on it.

frankbme
06-27-2002, 02:42 PM
hey deca thanks for the smart reply
you are so right on both accounts esp about the bros in the coffin lol