Cycle #3: What do you think, comrades?

46and2aheadofme

46and2aheadofme

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220, 10%bf, 26yo, 2 cycles under belt, mass is my goal.
I'm a VERY "hard-gainer" (I can eat anything I want all day long and not gain).

Weeks 1-12 200mg TT T200 EOD
Weeks 1-2 100mg Testolent phenylprop EOD
Weeks 1-4 50mg BD anadrol ED
Weeks 5-12 75mg homebrew tren EOD
Weeks 6-12 50mg dbol ED

.25mg arimidex EOD or as needed
clomid after, 50/100/50

Bridge:
3iu HGH ED
40mg anavar ED

Supplements (ED):
Protein Factory breakfast, post-training, and nighttime formulas
16mg IP periactin (appetite stimulant)
10g creatine
20g glutamine
multivitamin
2000mg B-5
multi-B
350mg echinacea
1000mg cran extract
1000mg saw palmetto
400mg milk thistle
1000mg vit C
400iu vit E
 
I would like to add 600mg/wk eq all the way through also if I have the $$$. This is what I have ready to go though. Just read the article on ALA and will probably go with 1g ED of that too.
 
16mg IP periactin (appetite stimulant)

Does this stuff work. I have the worst time in the world eating. I a 6ft. When I started working out I weighed 125-130 and that was with eating like a pig. I am at around 165 now so I really have to eat to try to keep on any weight. I did not know there was an appetite stimulant pill. I would love to try it.
 
Looks good. I like the Prop in the early stages. One thing to consider is that you are taxing your liver pretty hard with the anadrol and D-bol even though you are taking a 2 week break but some may differ.
 
highside said:
16mg IP periactin (appetite stimulant)

Does this stuff work. I have the worst time in the world eating. I a 6ft. When I started working out I weighed 125-130 and that was with eating like a pig. I am at around 165 now so I really have to eat to try to keep on any weight. I did not know there was an appetite stimulant pill. I would love to try it.
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Pereiactin is just one, there are others also. As far as the Periactin goes, I'm not completely sure yet, I've tried taking smaller amounts before without any noticeable difference in appetite, but this is the first time I've tried this higher dosage consistently. After 3 days on it I definitely feel more hungry and I am eating a lot and gaining weight slowly. Give me a couple more weeks and I'll give you a better idea of how I feel about it. BTW, I haven't noticed any of the sleepiness side effects that some experience.

Looks good. I like the Prop in the early stages. One thing to consider is that you are taxing your liver pretty hard with the anadrol and D-bol even though you are taking a 2 week break but some may differ.
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Yes, that is a concern of mine also..... I may or may not include the dbol depending on how the cycle is going at that point. If I do it, I will be drinking at least a gallon of water a day, 1g milk thistle, 1g ALA, 500mg Liverite.
 
how long to you plan to bridge?curious.I personally dont see why you are pausing from the anadrol the finishing off with d-bol?Too me,D-bol and a-bombs are so close alike...of course anadrol is better,,,but why use it at the end?It doesnt yield quality muscle anyways?Its primarilay for strength?If that is what you are using it for,strength will come with the FINA at the end.what is your logic...curious.Other than that,it looks good IMO.
 
46and2aheadofme said:
The logic is I have a bunch of dbol sittin around :)
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:D :D
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LMFAO funny shiot
 
I'd run more test. if especially if you are bulking. And drop the a-bombs very hard on body and plus you're running d's. It'd be good to add that eq to boost appetitie and I'd run that for 12-14 weeks seems to work best at long durations and run fina 6 weeks 75 mgs ed.

Also small you can you explain to me why you think it's ok to run tren. for such a long time. I read b/f that it's old bodybuilding folk lore that tren. is real hard on the body but everyone I am familiar with only run it a max of 8 weeks and usually only 6 weeks.
 
Tren is not harder on the body then any other injectable steroid. After being stripped from ester it's very quickly gets elimenated by liver, so there's no hepatoxicity, there's no proof of any harmful effect on kidneys.
Yes, it's strong androgen, and if you can't control your aggression, you should not use it, at all.
Personally, I ran Tren for 24 weeks long, and a few times for 16 and 12 weeks. Never had a problem.
 
I've run tren for over 16weeks too, not an issue IMO...just don't stack it with deca! Oh, 4 weeks of drol then 7 weeks of dbol? That's pretty rough on the liver. If you are a hardgainer, the best advice I can offer is to force yourself to take in around 5,000 cals/day. I posted my diet for that range in post somewhere in the last few days...that might help some.
 
Instead of getting EQ, I'ld get more prop and frontload to kick in before the slow ester in t200. That should give you faster gains IMO.
 
Does dbol kick in faster than adrol? If so, why not swap them to get into the swing of things faster?
 
Small: Up the test to 1400mg/wk? Do you think T200 is underdosed or just favor high-test cycles for bulking? Did a gram of sust my 2nd cycle - didn't have very good results and was battling side-effects.... I agree on the tren for the duration, I have had very good results with it and will go that route.

BStrong: Yes, eating enough is the key here, not the gear. I'll look up your post. Thanks for the heads-up bro.

getripped & kossdeh: The phenylprop and drol are there because I have that much left from past cycles so amount isn't likely to change. The dbol I'm still up in the air on..... cross that bridge when I come to it I guess.
 
Extra fina is on the way.
Bumped up the test to about 1g/wk.
Starting to keep strict track of calories to ensure intake stays up.
Cycle now looks like this:

Weeks 1-12 300mg TT T200 EOD
Weeks 1-2 100mg Testolent phenylprop EOD
Weeks 1-4 50mg BD anadrol ED
Weeks 1-12 75mg homebrew tren EOD
Weeks 6-12 50mg dbol ED (maybe)
 
Well, T200 is underdosed.
But that's not my point. I wanted to say, that instead of adding 600mg/week of EQ you would be better off adding 700mg of T200. Considering that it's underdosed, hopefully you will get the equivalent of 500mg of human grade test, so it will be 1g per week, not 1400mg.
EQ is less androgenic and less anabolic then Test, so for you , as hardgainer it's better to look for stronger stuff.
For side effects use Liquidex and Proscar.
 
Small said:
Well, T200 is underdosed.
But that's not my point. I wanted to say, that instead of adding 600mg/week of EQ you would be better off adding 700mg of T200. Considering that it's underdosed, hopefully you will get the equivalent of 500mg of human grade test, so it will be 1g per week, not 1400mg.
EQ is less androgenic and less anabolic then Test, so for you , as hardgainer it's better to look for stronger stuff.
For side effects use Liquidex and Proscar.
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Small,

I have heard from medical professionals that Proscar is hard on the liver. Would you still recommend one take it with DBOL and A bombs???:confused:
 
I use Proscar and I don't see any warning on the insert about it being harmful for liver.
Even Tylenol has the warning.
 
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