on cycle help (1)

Since this is my first real cycle I will most probably post lots of these questions as I go along.

I wanted a cycle in which getting ripped came first, a reasonable strength gain came second, and a little mass gain came last. I decided to go with 250mg testoviron a week and 400 primo every 5 days.

So far I've injected 250mg test last monday and also today, and 400 primo last week on monday and last saturday.

Since the first injection last week monday I've been extremely aggresive. I know this is supposed to be a normal and for some even a beneficial side effect but I'm getting a bit out of control. I tend to be extremely jittery and nervous all day long as if I took ten ECA-stacks. I get mad at people very quickly and feel very restless.

Top of the bill was that today a collegue of mine came up to me and asked me bluntly to my face if I was on gear. Since I'm on it only a week and it's only a weak cycle, muscle growth is very low and thus not really noticeable. He just asked this because of my behavior.

I really gotta cool down guys or I will totally ruin my rep as a nice guy (yeah right ). No seriously, it's a bit uncontroleable and I gotta be carefull. I've got a customer-friendly job and can't afford to be this aggresive. Any OTC thing I can take to relax while still having enough agression to train hard?

how aggressive, jittery and nervous do you tend to be off cycle? How much of an increase are we talking?

Tren is the only thing that made me the least bit edgy and I am pretty much of a hot head anyway. Test actually made me feel very euphoric. ECA's on the other hand make me very edgy and irritable but not overtly aggresive. I would convince yourself it's in your head and use some resraint before you act.
-TAZ

Well off cycle I'm pretty 'normal'. I'm not exactly a really calm person but I'm also not that aggresive. When I do get jittery or nervous or aggresive in a certain stressy situation I normally have good control over it, and it's exactly that kind of control that is now gone. Deep inside my head a voice says: dude, relax, chill out, but I just can't bring myself to listen to that voice now and become aggresive anyway.

self control

Its in your head...period

You are falling into the "roid rage" trap. There is no such thing! Increased aggression is fine..but use it in the gym. If you can't control yourself on gear then chances are you can't control yourself off gear! Not trying to be a dick..but you need to look at what you are really doing. the amounts of gear you are using is nil at best....and if you have been on a week...you have gotten ZERO muscle gains my friend.
Testoviron will not produce noticeable gains until about week 4-5. As for Primo it doesn't even suppress your natural test production!!! You need to get off the " I am juicing...my attitude will be a bad-ass for the next 8 weeks" bullshit. Like I said...not trying to be a dick..but its people like you who make all of us look like pixie-dicked madmen!!
No offense to anyone intended but I honestly believe that some people are not mature enough to handle AAS. This post is a prime example.

There's no way you could be getting any kind of effect after 1 week,mentally or physically,you're letting your mind get the best of you.Hope you're not ever considering tren.

cyberstefke said:

I'm not exactly a really calm person but I'm also not that aggresive. When I do get jittery or nervous or aggresive in a certain stressy situation I normally have good control over it..., Deep inside my head a voice says: dude, relax, chill out,...

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therefore, yes it's all in your head. Too short of a time frame, if rage was real, to be a part of it. The voice in your head should be telling you to stop the cycle, do more research on the products, cycles and the myths of roid rage, then begin again (maybe). Not being a prick either - - but ....

You might be wright mr456 . On the other hand, I think you took my post too strong. By aggresive I didn't mean fighting or anything like that, just that my reactions to situations are... well... 'heavier'. The word 'roid rage' most definitely does not apply. It's just that I get worked up and make a big fuss over stupid things, thats all.
I guess it's probably the stress I've been under lately, and the increased energy and higher blood pressure from the gear probably drove me over the edge.
I just talked with a friend just now and feel much better. I'll be fine.

And maybe I should cut back on my ECA a little.

No offense was intended

I have felt what you speak of...only on Tren though. The best advice I can give you is save all that pent up frustration and aggression and let it blow...at the gym. You will be so mentally and physically exhausted that you won't have the energy to get mad at anyone

Just think it bro, don't act on it...the world has enough assholes already! 456 hit it when he said "maturity". Be a good representative for all of us and behave like a mature man! I'm sure you can find the strength to handle that.

fuk all of you. You guy's don't know shit here. wow that tren just kicked in for a second, sorry guys......lol. Like they all said bro it's not even in your system yet. It will take 4 weeks to you start feeling something. You acting like my friend that takes his shot and then the next day he tells me he can feel it,lol. It's in your head right bro. Trust me you will know when it kicks in and your weight jumps.

Just relax if you need something get you some St Johns Wart it will relax you a little. Even if it doesnt work you have tricked your subconcuois into thinking that you have taken nsomething to calm you down.. believe it or not this shit works. On tren for 6 weeks I became a little irritable at my girlfriend and she noticed, she began to help me and offered sex all the time.. maybe you need a girlfriend bro. At th level your at now they are all right its in your head.. just relax and try not to snap at anyone. Leave others alone and walk away.. be a man take full reepsonsibility for your actions and your emotions..Just a little helpful advice not trying to be a dick either...

thermochaser said:

. On tren for 6 weeks I became a little irritable at my girlfriend and she noticed, she began to help me and offered sex all the time.. ...

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a whole 'nother reason to use tren!

Finny weenie....lol Get mad and just fuck she will love it..lol

To put the record straight...
I went to the doc (for other reasons than this post is about) and when he checked my blood pressure it was quite high. I'm not saying it's the gear or so it's prob. something else.
Anyway... the high blood press. combined with very warm weather and quite some stress at work probably drove me to what I mentioned here.
Weather was cooler today and I got some blood pressure medication. I was fine today and felt back to normal, even extremely calm as a matter of fact. I've been under a lot of stress lately and I guess I just panicked. I'm all fine now, but thanks for your input.

Was it Dr Prozac? just kidding bro.. glad to hear it.

I don't need to repeat what other people have posted. I find 50mg/ day of Winny did it for me. I had to go to every second day to lower my patience threshold. But test does nothing for me in that sense. D-bol maybe a little but definetly is a mind thing. Take some deep breaths when it gets tough. Seek some natural supplements if you like. I'm worried now because I just started seeing a girl and am going on a winny and tren cycle in a few weeks.

Try Halo/Tren combo, it's better then Prozac.

That was a joke.
And seriously, just stop being an asshole, that's all it takes.