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leanbody
07-14-2002, 08:13 PM
Do any of you guys have experience with getting the raw materials for juice i.e. test powder and making it into an injectable? I have been reading about it and am very interested. Let me know any info that you have. I like the idea b/c it's cheap you know what and how much you are getting and the powders always get through customs as these are generally ordered overseas.

Gear101*
07-14-2002, 08:14 PM
just tren and test s..

leanbody
07-14-2002, 08:19 PM
Yeah tren is pretty easy to make and this seems much easier than that. No filtering necessary or grinding, plus it is cheap. The price list I am looking at has 5 grams of test ethenate powder for $45 plus other AS powder as well.

Jason
07-14-2002, 09:27 PM
I'm interested in making test suspension? Anyone have any info. or know where I can find some ?

rooster1
07-14-2002, 09:40 PM
leanbody,can you pm me with where I could get the powder?Would be very interested as well.I am sure the help you need is very close by.I would also ask animal.Don't know if I should put his addy here.But he seems to know his sh*t,chemically.PM me and I'll send his addy.....later

Gear101*
07-14-2002, 09:40 PM
lewd taught me

There is already a site that had directions and another one with pics. email me if you are interested in the one with directions. I used both. The one with pics:

http://www.geocities.com/wndwshr1/testinstruct.html

These are tips I picked up from LIBeef, my own experiments, and other lab scientists:

This will be updated and organized every 2 weeks or so.

1. This takes about 3 days to complete if you have things to do. It is possible to start it on a friday morning and be done Sunday night or Monday morning. If you have someone that will be upset to see you experiment, don't do this at that location.

2.skip the reading step where you make Test crystals. It is difficult to get long crystal to seperate the Test from the salt. I completely skip this step and put everything into vial #3. I heat it up and let all of the fillers and binders settle at the bottom for 24 hours before drawing AS from the top of the solution for filtering.

3. get 2 extra filters. clogged filters suck.

4. I was doing my conversion at 3am and ran out of GAS LINE ANTIFREEZE. I was getting mine at a hardware store and the 24 hour convenience store did not carry it. I went to a gas station and found some there.Probably will only find it there in the winter time.

5. best place to put the solution for evaporation is someplace where there is warm air circulating like at the top shelf in the kitchen.Use a fan to let the air above it circulate.

6 when filtering you want the solution to be hot, about 200deg.use a candy thermometer in boiling water to check that the temperature is 200deg. generally boiling water is 200 deg after a few minutes and does not rise above that without pressure. Do not go to 250deg as that is the temperature that filters will fail. place the vial in there(not over the heat) without the top for 5 minutes.

7 I use 5ml syringes when filtering synovex now. be gentle as you put a lot of pressure on the filter with little effort.Only just enough effort to get a steady stream.puching hard will not make it run faster.
from whatman filters web site:
As a general guide, the following pressures can be obtained by hand with the syringes indicated: 20ml, 30 psi; 10ml, 50 psi; 5ml, 75 psi; 3ml, 100 psi; 1ml, 150 psi.

rooster1
07-14-2002, 10:11 PM
Gear,this looks like synovex conversion,is this the same as what leanbody can get.The powder?

Taz30
07-14-2002, 10:47 PM
Madchemist , i'm surprised you haven't posted on this one yet. This one should be of particular interest to you. :p

Gear101*
07-14-2002, 10:59 PM
no he's talking about the raw products..

Taz30
07-14-2002, 11:27 PM
My bad.

leanbody
07-15-2002, 06:29 AM
Bro's I wish I could share the source with you but was instructed not to share it with anyone unless I know them personally.

Chemical Evolution I am surprised you don't have access to these powders as you are in Europe. In due time I wil share the source with the moderators, but I am only a newbie here. Any of you guys use the bb.com board too. If you do and I know you over there I may be able to share.

Don't take offense, b/c I have seen too many good sources go down lately, and me myself just lost $700.

MUCH BIGGER
07-15-2002, 08:11 AM
Just a simple reminder to some of you. PLEASE don't openly ask for a source.

rooster1
07-15-2002, 09:41 PM
Don't blame you dude,at all!!Be safe-----#1,maybe in time,i will find out.....will investigate further though....haven't given up.

thermochaser
07-15-2002, 10:14 PM
if there is a will there is a way. Email me...I HAVE PICS OF MY WIFE NUDE..WAIT IM NOT MARRIED ITS YOUR WIFE..

GEARUZR
11-09-2002, 05:14 PM

machine99
11-10-2002, 09:01 PM
Just made "tne" I guess its called, testosterone with no ester in oil-based solution. hell of a lot easier to make then the synovex conversion looks.

machine99
11-12-2002, 01:25 AM
I did not convert synovex, I convert testosterone base....testosterone base doesnot have an ester, test eth looks gel like, test base is a powder and converts to tne which is very similar to suspension. before you talk shit, pm or ask me. i do my resarch and got advice from sc on the subject. As far as buying gear being cheaper, you not incorrect my friend, making tne 50mL @ 100mg/mL cost $31 buying suspension is about $140 for 20mL, again if you have a problem with me then pm and ask me, but do not insult my intellegence and accuss me of wandering in the dark.... As far as synovex conversion it looks too damn complicated and it is very easy to make tne, tne took 3 hours or so to make while I've read synovex conversion takes 2-3 days... As far as esters go, I would say I know quite a bit. I understand you said this is not a flame, but I have taken it that way since no where in my post did I meant test eth, so I don't know what the hell you are talking about.. However if you want to talk prices on eth, it cost something like $145 for 50mL vial from QV as apposed to around $145 or so for 100mL vial at the same dosage. :mad:

machine99
11-12-2002, 01:26 AM
Jason was interested in making suspension which is why I brought up tne....

machine99
11-12-2002, 05:48 PM
Ok I'm tried of wasting time with you so this will be my last reply. As far as you didn't mean to flame me, its pretty insulting to tell someone they are wandering in the dark and basically don't know what they are talking about when in fact you were the one who confused tne with testosterone ethanthe and didn't know what you were talking about. then you aplogized to me in a pm and then you have the nerve to tell me in the forum to be warned because you know high ranking mc members...Really? me too, not that it matters since we can't very much settle this man to man through a computer so who cares. As far as this thread being stupid and a bunch a dumb asses looking for sources, why that is a pretty wise thing to say coming the the guy who wrote: "now that we all have the knowhow all we need is meterial.............help I've been searching for a confermable source for powders for too long. " in this thread: http://board1.mantisforums.com/upload/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7732&highlight=making+your+own+gear

As far as me not being a chemist your right I'm not and you aren't either so once again who cares, I've done 10-15 fina conversions and I've made tne and that's pretty much it, I'll be making eq, test eth., winny, d-bol for my cycle starting in jan. and even then I won't be a chemist. As far as getting an infection from my own batch no I never have since I ask how not to, how high of a temp I can bake at and for how long, see I don't act like I know everything, if I don't know I ask, I research I read the faq on all the boards I go to and pm my friends like gear101, sc and doom and others. Now I'm done with this discussion, a wise man once said, "Agrueing on the internet is like racing in the special olympics, even if you win your still retarded." Also as far as tne needing to be injected every 4-6hrs. I've been asure by superchicken and doom over at massmonsterz that a once a day injection is fine and there is no need for 2-3 injections per day.

madchemist36
11-12-2002, 08:19 PM
Originally posted by Taz30
Madchemist , i'm surprised you haven't posted on this one yet. This one should be of particular interest to you. :p

hey bro i just came across this post rite now and i am very interested. but i am still all into my MTech supps. LOL:p