Need a cycle that won't make me go mental

Hi all,

I have a few jobs, and I do volunteer work with poor kids, teaching them how to read and help them with their school. I do this for a few hours every day.

My last cycle was good, but I noticed the Testoviron made me feel like irratable and possibly agressive, which is not cool for this setting. The kids can be nutty. I can't. I have to keep a real level head for all of my work, really.

I also can't get too huge too quick as it will be easily noticed and I could end up getting charged.

Could someone reccomend a cycle that would help me gain (and keep) 5-15 lean lbs. I would be running it in fall/winter--a yummy time for eating.

Lastly, could the cycle reccomendation also include "rebound" drugs, like liquidex, clomid, nolvadex, etc (if necessary). I hate to guess on the amounts of that kinda stuff. I am highly organized and like everything planned out before I get into it.

Thanks!

Zig

EQ 500mg/wk (1-10)
PROP 150mg/eod (1-12)
Winny D 50mg/ed (7-12)

That should work!

CJ

Cool thanks guys, but won't the TEST PROP make me go nutty?

That is my picture up there, BTW--job number 1. Can't go nutty when I have that kinda hardware either--unless Al Quida attacks Canada.

How does this sound?

wks 1-9 eq 600mg wk
wks 7-13 anavar 40mg ed.
wks 13-15 clomid, 100mg ed 10 days, 50mg ed 10 days

BTW, I am 5'10, 185 lbs--10 lbs of which is FAT and this would be my 2nd cycle.

I know how to eat right, and I can honestly say I am the hardest-training and most intense lifter in the gym...but fuck the army wastes your muscles. Anyone who has been in knows what I mean!

With that in mind, any adjustments reccomended to dosages and lengths of time.

Thanks again, and I just wanted to say I really apreicate all the fine help I have recieved on this board from members and mods. It refreshing to find such fine people willing to help.

Ziggy B

That is good, but I really don't think you will build much muscle... You might get about 10lbs, but it will be solid.

CJ

realcooltime said:

My last cycle was good, but I noticed the Testoviron made me feel like irratable and possibly agressive, which is not cool for this setting....

Could someone reccomend a cycle that would help me gain (and keep) 5-15 lean lbs.

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I don't know why people are telling you to take test prop after your brief introduction. Isn't Testoviron just a brand of test prop?

Anyway, I bet you'd react to any type of test (regardless of brand & ester) in a similar manner. The best advice I can think of would be to run a straight Primobolan Depot cycle. You should have no problem gaining and keeping 5-10 quality pounds if your training and diet are good. If money isn't a consideration, I think an Anavar/Primobolan would be a terrific stack for you under these circumstances.

I just read your reply...an eq/anavar stack would probably be even better!

I really think a mild doseage of test is a must in all cycles when you don't have large muscles to begin with... I did a deca/primo only cycle and feel that I wasted my money... None of my friends have shown success w/o Test... Test isn't supposed to affect the CNS like something such as FINA... I believe with moderate doseages i.e. 100mg/eod Prop he'll be fine... Just don't let it get to your head.

CJ - No flame intended just advice from personal experience...

Given your goals,past experience,need for discrete muscle gains and job situation, I totally agree with goldenear on this one.

AS can be a mind fuc, and dont let it get to u

do the eq/var cycle bro, you only want a small agin and low aggression. that will do it. id be willing to bet 200mg test per wk wouldnt bother you, and it would be a nice addition to your cycle.

Hi all and thanks again for your courteous replies and offers of guidance.

I do gain very solid, as I said I am a very focused and intense lifter. A lot of Pilates and isomterics help me. Everything goes on with good shape. The photo you see is after wasting away in the feild with shit nutrition, extreme cardio, and very poor sleep (1-3 hours a day).

I do need to be disreet. But I also realize the superior power of test.

What about this one then:
wks 1-8 Sustanon, 250mg/wk
wks 1-9 eq 600mg/wk
wks 7-13 anavar 40mg ed.
wks 13-15 clomid, 300mg day one
100mg ed 9 days, 50mg ed 10 days

Or will the gains be to huge? Also, Some people have told me that Sust has very low sides, while others say it makes them totally bonkers. Would it be better to go with Prop?

Lastly, I always keep my cool and never let it go to my head. It's just that I work anywhere from 50-75 hours a week and the kids I try to help are very troubled. Often they will do whatever they can to try and cause problems. Few can keep their cool who aren't on the juice. So far I have, but have come close ot snapping, which would only hurt both them and I. I am trying to help them after all.

I thank you all for your input and gladly welcome any constructive feedback. Thanks!

Zig

I feel low dose of Test would be fine. I had 4 days I ran out of Tren and was just running the prop. It made me calm and happy! I am running a pretty small dose too 350mg a week. You should be fine with the Sust and that low dose and with the eq and anavar should get nice gains but not to crazy.

Thanks username,

Hey all, if I was to run test at a low level, 200-250 a week, what would be better sust or prop?

I have never used either. except for the 100 mgs of prop I had a week when running the Testoviron at 500/wk.

Also, I guess I'd have to use nolvadex and/or more clomid by adding more to the stack.

Again thanks and all good advice is welcome!

zig

Personally if I was doing one shot of Test /week it wouldn't be Sus. Go with a single ester Test like Enanthate. Your blood levels will be more constant and it is cheaper. If you are worried about looking to big too fast, throw some Liquidex or Arimidex in to keep any bloat down.