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realcooltime
07-25-2002, 01:22 PM
Hi all,

I was wondering about a good low-cost cycle, including the requisite meds such as nolvadex and/or clomid.

I have the following in mind, but I would like to hear some constructive criticisms or suggestions for alternate cycles:

cycle 1:

8-10 weeks 600mg EQ
8-10 weeks 250mg Sust 250

cycle 2:

8-10 weeks 600mg EQ
8-10 weeks 100mg Test Prop (EOD)

cycle 3:

8-10 weeks 400mg EQ
8-10 weeks 100mg Test Prop (EOD)

cycle 4:

8-10 weeks 400mg EQ
8-10 weeks 250mg Sust 250


Do I really need such high doses of these drugs, such as 600EQ a week and 700 Test Prop a week, or will the ower doses be fine.

I am 185, 5'10 and have never tried any of these drugs. This would be my second cycle.

Please tell me which cycle is best, and what dosages of Nolvadex and Clomid I should get.

Thanks in advance for all courteous and constructive feedback,

Ziggy B.

DecaDent*
07-25-2002, 01:35 PM
What....no gun pic this time Zig?.......

I like #3
Run the EQ for 8 weeks and the prop for 10weeks at those doses.

goldenear
07-25-2002, 01:40 PM
Originally posted by realcooltime
I am 185, 5'10 and have never tried any of these drugs. This would be my second cycle.

Man, I can't figure you out. You introduced yourself saying you didn't like test prop because it made you a little irritable. Now, you're talking about sustenon and more test prop. What gives?

gymrat
07-25-2002, 01:40 PM
I would go with cycle #2. With prop/eq you won't have to worry about nolvadex because there shouldn't be any converstion. Clomid you would have to take two weeks after your last eq injection. 300mg the first day, 100mg for the next 10 days, then 50mg for the next 10 days.

sully
07-25-2002, 01:49 PM
...i m with Deca Dent on this one...400mgs of EQ is fine and prop at 100mgs EOD is beautiful...lol...if you have never done these drugs than definitely start "low" and if you believe you need more in later cycles than adjust dosages accordingly...but remember bro, one word---------------DIET...its everything...drugs just aid...

realcooltime
07-25-2002, 02:40 PM
Hi all,

Goldenear, re-read what I wrote. I did 500mgs of Testoviron, WHICH IS NOT propinate, it is enanthanate. it has 50mgs of prop per amp.

That mean I was doing 100mgs of prop a week.

I also said I wanted to try and avoid test if I could. But buying the requisite amount of oxandolone that you said was a good idea would cost me well over $1000.00. The toal cycle price would be about $1500-$1700 Canadian.

This is why I am soliciting opnions on running test at a LOW level, such as prop 100mg EOD or Sust 250mg a week.

Thanks all, I will go with numero 2 I think...Peace and best training wishes to all.

Ziggy B