When do you start to see things happening?

On approx. day 13 of 400g Test E and 300g Deca a week. No acne, no massive boners, not alot of water retention, strength is about the same. REALLY don't think my stuff is bunk. I am up about 6lbs, but have really increased the food intake. I was just wondering when people start to notice things? I have heard 3rd or 4th week - can you give me an idea?

Be patient. You should start to notice things within the next week. 6lbs is great and nothing to complain about.

Ive always noticed water retention starting at the end of the first week. I would say strength gains will kick in around week 4.

Yeah but what about the boners ......... I want lots of rock hard boners! LOL! Just kidden' bros.

Gander, what brand of gear are u using I just posted reguarding what brand to use. I will be doing the same as u only 600mg deca and 500 tes. I know I should do more test than deca but this should give good results I hope!

Elmo - I am using TT Deca and Brovel Test. I tell you what, If you look hard enough you will find someone saying bad things about any brand. I was thinking of Aratest for my next cycle and did alot of searches on it and everyone said that the old stuff was good but the new stuff is crap (Gee, have you heard that before?). Shit what can you believe, with some people you don't know if they have a shitty diet and lazy workouts and then say the stuff is bunk. If you are talking about Testosterone magazine (which I do read) I think that is a bunch of shit. GAC this GAC that and MAG 10 blah blah blah........ I only read it for the articles that pertain to working out. Just my 2 cents.

Elmo - I am using TT Deca and Brovel Test. I tell you what, If you look hard enough you will find someone saying bad things about any brand. I was thinking of Aratest for my next cycle and did alot of searches on it and everyone said that the old stuff was good but the new stuff is crap (Gee, have you heard that before?). Shit what can you believe, with some people you don't know if they have a shitty diet and lazy workouts and then say the stuff is bunk. If you are talking about Testosterone magazine (which I do read) I think that is a bunch of shit. GAC this GAC that and MAG 10 blah blah blah........ I only read it for the articles that pertain to working out. Just my 2 cents.