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sully
08-13-2002, 02:54 PM
...what do you guys do?...has anyone used both and have an opinion on both?...thinking of using one of these 2 soon...

gymrat
08-13-2002, 02:56 PM
I personally prefer the NYC. Worked better for me.

sully
08-13-2002, 03:08 PM
...did it work better fat-loss wise or energy wise...or both?...what kind of results...i m more interested in energy as my metabolism is pretty fast...

gymrat
08-13-2002, 04:13 PM
energy wise, they both gave me the same effect. Just that the NYC worked a little better for fat loss.

bigpapavansmack
08-13-2002, 04:15 PM
let the flaming begin... WTF is NYC? :confused:

RF426
08-13-2002, 04:38 PM
norephedrine, yohimbe, caffeine

shiko24
08-13-2002, 04:56 PM
I have been using an ECA stack E=500mg C=200mg and A=162mg(2 childrens asprin) adult makes me sick anyway
I have lots of energy and my fat loss was great I always loose what I want then I just go on a maintance cycle

why doses each are normal For NYC?

Gear101*
08-13-2002, 05:09 PM
NYC 25mg of norephedrine, 100mg of caffeine and 2.7mg of yohimbine hcl.

CJWolford
08-13-2002, 05:22 PM
I like NYC much more, i get more energy, but i don't get the jittery effect like the ECA gives me.

sully
08-13-2002, 05:26 PM
...those that take NYC, what are your dosages of each...are they what Gear101 stated or what????...

CJWolford
08-13-2002, 05:49 PM
I can take 50mg of norephedrine, 200mg of caffeine and 5.4mg of yohimbine hcl with no problems.

Of course i start at only half that, and then bump it up gradually.

Gear101*
08-13-2002, 08:02 PM
This was originally posted on Elite by Huckleberry Finnaplex and based on his personal experience.
Enjoy:

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Summer is approaching us.Now more than ever we're thinking of shedding those unwanted lipid accumulations,as it's getting to be beach weather,and the shirts will be coming off.I thought this might serve as a little motivation for those of you getting ready to take that cutting plunge,and possibly might encourage some of you to run my little experiment as well....

Hey guys,just wanted to share my results of a cutting stack I have been running that is centered around A2/estrogen suppression.I recently completed a pretty high-dose run of test/eq/d-bol,and while I put some serious size on with this trio,I made a cardinal mistake-My estrogen management program was piss-poor(I used nolvadex only).Not only did I bloat up like a hot air baloon,but I accumulated a crap-load of estrogenically related fat-patterning all around my waist,lower chest and hip area.
After clomid therapy,I decide to wage war on my A2's/estrogen.I started running 1/4 cc(1mg) daily of liquidex religiously,which had an immediate impact on my bloating and hardened my muscles up nearly overnight.But those stubborn fat pockets were holding on for dear life-HARD CORE DIET TIME.
Three + weeks ago,I started running a Norephedrine/Yohimbine HCL/Caffeine(NYC) stack in conjunction with my liquidex,and the results have been nothing short of astounding.I have been running a keto-type diet with very low carb intake,as well as 1 hour of intense cardio every morning on an empty stomach(except for 2 tabs of NYC taken 45 minutes prior to cardio).

Results?17LBS LOST!!

Granted,I know that this is not all fat,but I have lost damn near 2 inches off my waist and only a 1/4" off my arms,and strength has pretty much stayed stagnant.

Observations-When I first started taking my NYC,I tried taking two caps at once,and this was a little to strong to begin with for me(as each cap has a whopping 2.7mgs of Yohimbine HCL).I started getting the chills from the yohimbine and feeling a little nauseated,so I backed it down to one tab and I was fine.I also noticed if I did not drink enough water with administration,I would experience some stomach irritation,mainly in the form of acid reflux.This was easily extinguished by drinking a FULL glass of water with each dosage.After a week of so,I was able to tolerate 2 tabs at once,and boy it has made a difference.During my cardio,my body heats up like a furnace,and I can literally feel the adipose tissue melting off with each session.My schedule right now is two tabs first thing in the morning upon wakening prior to cardio,two tabs 4 hours later,and 1 tab 3-1/2 hours later.I find that I take the last cap too late into the afternoon,I feel too amped in the evening(my heart rate feels sped up)so I usually cut the last tab off by no later than 2p.m.

Just wanted to share my experience with you guys on what I feel is one of the best post-cycle combinations I have ever tried for ripping up,the liquidex has kept my estrogen production down and hardened my muscles up considerably(through removal of sub-Q water retention and estrogenic fat-patterning),the NYC trio is one of the most potent thermogens for an OTC I have ever used,as well as a potent A2 interactor(due to the high dose of Yohimbine) This combo may be a very wise idea for you folks that accumulate a lot of estrogen related BF in your bulking cycles,as it has taken it off for me in dramatic fashion.

shiko24
08-13-2002, 09:11 PM
Thanks Gear101
that was a helpful bit of info now I guess my only question is what is norephedrine and how is it diffrent from regular ephedrine and most importantly can I get it at GNC?
sorry if this seems a stupid question but if I don't ask I don't know
thanks guys

sgrinavi
08-14-2002, 08:58 AM
Originally posted by shiko24
Thanks Gear101
that was a helpful bit of info now I guess my only question is what is norephedrine and how is it diffrent from regular ephedrine and most importantly can I get it at GNC?
sorry if this seems a stupid question but if I don't ask I don't know
thanks guys

No, not at gnc!

http://www.dpsnutrition.com/templates/frmTemplateA.asp?CatalogID=1869&Zoom=Yes&SubFolderId=1

cybersteffan
08-14-2002, 09:42 AM
I don't like caffeine... it makes me jittery. I also don't like aspirin... it gives me stomach bleeds even at low doses.

I like high doses of ephedrine and some Yomhimbe to go along.

Good_Guy
08-14-2002, 10:11 AM
Just wondering whats the purpose of Aspirin in an ECA stack? Does it have something to do with thinning the blood?

shiko24
08-15-2002, 08:22 AM
Yes Good_guy thats what the asprin is for

cybersteffan
08-15-2002, 09:25 AM
Aspirin prolongs the effect of E and C. At least it's supposed to. I've seen as much evidence saying it does as that it doesn't.

In the past 7 years I have done E C and A in all kind of stacks and all kind of ways in all kind of form... and I can only conclude... for me personally... that adding aspirine doens't do a damn thing.

And since it gives me stomach bleeds... I will never add it again to any of my stacks.

Just my 2 cents.

Good_Guy
08-15-2002, 10:34 AM
Thanks for the info cyber, I've been thinking about putting together a homemade ECA stack. Now I think I'll forget about the A. By the way what's the best way to cycle ECA? I've heard alternating two weeks ECA then two weeks of Yohimbe works well.

cybersteffan
08-15-2002, 12:28 PM
There has been tons of info on cycling ECA and it varies so much it's hard to keep up. I'd say its inconclusive.

Personally I don't cycle ECA any more. I just use some pure E before a workout and that's about it.

shiko24
08-15-2002, 04:50 PM
ok look not trying to ruffle any feathers but what is asprin for headaches how does it help with them A headache is blood constricting in your head what asprin does is thin your blood so that it well release and flow through your veins easily thisin turn help aid in an ECA stack by thinning your blood so that it runs through your system faster the reason ppl get bleeds is because of the does is so harsh so here is how you get to use asprin in your stack even if you do get bleeds USE CHILDRENS CHEWABLE ASPRIN an adult is like 750mg a CCA is 81mg is you take two you will get just enough to thin your blood and not get any stomach problems

the most simple ECA is
GNC ephadra 250mgs per (2 tabs)
Food Lion Stay Awake 200mgs per
Childrens chewable asprin 81mgs per (orange flavor MMMmm)

cybersteffan
08-15-2002, 05:11 PM
All very true. I still don't like it. And I have tried baby aspirins. Maybe I'm allergic to it. Lots of people are.

Since I have had no extra benefit in aiding the EC stack for fat loss, why should I bother with it?

shiko24
08-16-2002, 04:54 PM
Cyberstefke,
sorry Bro didn't mean any harm just that most ppl don't think about getting CCA I can always tell a diffrence when I don't use it
didn't mean to come off like a jerk

cybersteffan
08-16-2002, 05:17 PM
Originally posted by shiko24
didn't mean to come off like a jerk

No worries... I didn't take it as such. I always appreciate everyone opinions, thats why I'm on this board. I just gave you mine.

So you didn't sound like a jerk, we were just discussing the matter and that's what forum are for.


Later bro!

mango
08-20-2002, 02:41 PM
does anyone know where to get some good yohimbine only tabs? i've tried the NYC stack and really liked it, but i actually prefer the regular ephedrine to the nor-ephedrine. personally i think a EYC stack would be fantastic.

sgrinavi
08-21-2002, 08:20 AM
Originally posted by mango
does anyone know where to get some good yohimbine only tabs?


try www.kilosports.com

trip
08-21-2002, 09:02 AM
Their are probably a hundred different types of these product on the market now, each with one or two different ingredients. All work relatively well and are effective versus the side effects.

Yet, they end up being like a woman, you really have to try several out and find out which one is right for you.

The good thing is that they do work well.

Good Luck

lovetoeat
08-21-2002, 09:40 AM
Originally posted by mango
does anyone know where to get some good yohimbine only tabs?

www.1fast400.com

Harvey Balboner
05-15-2003, 11:29 PM
actually I think I perfer NYC, because it makes me have a lot of energy, but I don't feel jittery. I think the results are about the same.

I usually go with ECA because they are so much cheaper.

jaguirre
06-11-2004, 05:17 AM
can someone tell me if yca is any good for fat loss

y-yohimbe
c-caffeine
a-aspirine

in replacement of ECA

johnnyboy845
06-13-2004, 10:20 AM
Originally posted by RF426
norephedrine, yohimbe, caffeine

ok got a question I know ephedra is not for sale anymore....
but is the NYC stack with norephedrine still legally for sale in NY ??? might give it a try.. I still have stackers with ephedra and just got ephedra 25mg with gustafassen SP???? which is like cough medecine which I can do without

strider
06-13-2004, 07:46 PM
try MC advanced supplements i believe its there bro. you can pm presser and ask he might know.

DragonRider
06-17-2004, 05:47 PM
Originally posted by johnnyboy845
ok got a question I know ephedra is not for sale anymore....
but is the NYC stack with norephedrine still legally for sale in NY ??? might give it a try.. I still have stackers with ephedra and just got ephedra 25mg with gustafassen SP???? which is like cough medecine which I can do without
First you can still buy ephedrine. This is only one place http://d-n-e.com/index.html. You can find others if research.

force
06-19-2004, 01:42 AM
I get good results from both but I lose more weight with NYC,I am using AF store NYC now but preferred Syntrax's old Adipokinetix formula.That stuff was amazing for both fat loss and energy..if it was still around I would be buying it by the case..if only i had known back then it wasnt going to be available..

F.

kudosjack
09-24-2004, 11:52 AM
hi bros id like to know clen cycling n wht time in a day it should be taken .thanks guys

da_Fonz
09-24-2004, 05:37 PM
for the clen cycling you would want to end taking the clen around 4-5PM. You would want to cycle is 2 weeks on/off for the most part. You can play around with the time on/off but i would suggest giving 1 wk minimum off to let the receptors readjust. also pyrimad up and back down so that your body doesnt crash from a sudden drop in taking it.

da_Fonz
09-24-2004, 05:39 PM
Personalyy though i had better resultz with the ephdrine sulfate , grapeseed extract, caffeine, and aspirin than Clen.