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cybersteffan
08-14-2002, 11:13 AM
I you had to choose between dieting and cardio (and thus not both) for creating a calorie deficit than what would it be?

Would there be a real difference if you ate at maintenance and created a 500 cal deficit with cardio or if you don’t do cardio and you just ate 500 cals less?

Only take results into account, i.e. fat loss and muscle preservation. Don’t take into account that you don’t like doing cardio or don’t like to dieting.

tubman
08-14-2002, 11:26 AM
Diet.......for the same reason as Press

sgrinavi
08-14-2002, 11:28 AM
Diet for sure, cardio impacts your recovery ability and really dicks up your nitrogen balance....


cardio sucks

TAZ
08-14-2002, 12:51 PM
Would there be a real difference if you ate at maintenance and created a 500 cal deficit with cardio or if you don’t do cardio and you just ate 500 cals less?

A deficit is a deficit no matter how you look at it, after all a calorie is just a measure of heat. A few things to concider about cardio is that even though the calories are burned up the other micro nutrients and minerals are retained. Also Cardio does what it's name implies and strengthens the cardiovascular system. It also has been associate with improving your overall cholesterol profile.

I know guys that do it both way's. It depends on your body type, your supplement regime and your fortitude when it comes to being successful. I belive that short duration high intensity cardio is more benifitial to fat loss while retaining lean muscle than is the longer duration less intensive types. Just look at Olympic sprinters vs marathon runners.

-TAZ

realcooltime
08-15-2002, 12:59 PM
Cardio.

That's how Chris Cormier does it.

He eats clean year round and eats the SAME when dieting. But in the morning, before breakfast he does cardio everyday.

He pounds it out at the gym. Then he does cardio at the end.

Why this is better than dieting:

If you do this right you will have a GOOD mood, becuase you will not be dieting.

You will become more of a complete and total athelete. Think about it, you don't want to lean out as much as you would like to look conditioned. That is why winnie is so popular (even though it is shit). Winnie makes you look conditioned. But winnie is the easy route.

If you do more cardio you condition those type 3 muscle fibres in your body and your heart--this is the most important: You need to pump blood effectively to build muscle. That is why winnie is so destructive too. It ruins that process in the long run.

If you have a good efficient cardio system you can lift like a wild animal. You can endure longer torture sessions per muscle and you can go nuts on drop sets and compound sets. Everything I do now has an intensity technique welded to it as a finisher.

Getting it through cardio is EASIER and better for you. But it requires more work.

But then again, what gains has anyone ever gotten without work?

ZB

cybersteffan
08-15-2002, 02:22 PM
Tnx ZB. Exactlly the answer I was looking for.

realcooltime
08-15-2002, 08:14 PM
I am buying a Yamaha YZF 600r tommorow.

2003 Silver
New Vanson leathers
New helmet
New boots


I owe it to you. Fuck Harley Davidson!


ZB

cybersteffan
08-16-2002, 06:24 AM
Wow what an effect. To bad you are not going for the YZF R1 wich is a 1000 cc.

I just got my bike so I'll keep it for at least another year, but then I'll go for the new Honda Fireblade. I know lots of bro's, that is to say chicks that ride with my bro's, and they all find the Fireblade much more comfortable.

One of them recently drove to the south of France on the back. They did about 800 km (500 miles) in one day and she did not complain she said. But she drove along with her brother on the Yamaha and she said her back was crippled after half an hour.

Know lots of people that find the Honda much more comfortable. Just as info though.

Nonetheless the YZF 600 is a great race bike. Hope you enjoy. Let me know!!

cybersteffan
08-16-2002, 06:25 AM
And btw... when you have it... post us some picks!!

realcooltime
08-16-2002, 10:52 AM
i heard that the YZF was a comfort bike, not a race bike. I'll post some picks.

cybersteffan
08-16-2002, 11:29 AM
My bad. I thought you meant the R6, but I guess you were talking about the 'thundercat', the R6 baby brother. I was gonna go with that one too, but I heard it less comfortable and more agressive than the Honda in his kind.

I'm no honda freak or anything. This is only my very first bike and so I really can't compare for myself... but in every test I have read in a magazine or every experienced rider I have talked to... I always hear that Honda has the most comfortable race bikez. That's why I bought mine.

Anyway let me know how you feel about it when you have put it to the test yourselve.

I'll be looking out for those pics!

Have fun with it!!!

cybersteffan
08-16-2002, 11:34 AM
real nice machine!!

realcooltime
08-16-2002, 12:26 PM
it slays

$11000.00 canadian out the door, all taxes (14%) included. I may get it for less. There's two dealerships in a bidding war for my business right now.

The MSRP in Canada is $10,499.00. Out the door, I'm not sure about taxes all the hidden costs. Probably about $12500.00

2 dealers are battling it out in the mid $9000.00 range for a 2003

new poll upcoming: color choice!