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insulinAL
08-17-2002, 12:21 AM
i'm just curious of all your guys blood pressure... cycling or not. mine was 148 over 100 tonight...which is high... just curious

cybersteffan
08-17-2002, 12:39 AM
normal 12-13/80-90. Now it has gone as high as 185/110.

shokjosh456
08-17-2002, 12:51 AM
mine was high for awhile 150~170 over 94~110 but now Im on a new blood pressure medicine which works great with no side effects...it even has a mild diuretic...so less water retention :D it now runs between 112~124 over 64~81

shokjosh456
08-17-2002, 12:53 AM
Originally posted by cyberstefke
it has gone as high as 185/110.

get on BP medicine bro...thats to high.Be careful.Blood pressure is a silent killer

cybersteffan
08-17-2002, 12:55 AM
I'm on some calcium antagonist. It's a bit better now. What medecine do you take?

shokjosh456
08-17-2002, 01:01 AM
Originally posted by cyberstefke
I'm on some calcium antagonist. It's a bit better now. What medecine do you take?

Im taking Diovan HCTZ 160/12.5...I would also lower your sodium intake a little if you can.Do you do cardio?Light cardio will help drop it.

cybersteffan
08-17-2002, 01:08 AM
Light cardio seems to make it worse for some reasong. Weight training actually helps.

This Diovan... is that an ACE inhibitor?

shokjosh456
08-17-2002, 01:11 AM
couldnt tell ya...I just tried variuos ones untill I found one with no side effects(limp peter,drowsiness,feeling heavy or ill)).Its fairly new from what my doc says.

cybersteffan
08-17-2002, 01:17 AM
Well it seems to be a ARB (Angiotensin II receptor blocker) instead of and ACE (angiotensin-converting enzyme)

insulinAL
08-17-2002, 01:18 AM
thanks bro's

cybersteffan
08-17-2002, 01:19 AM
the info on ACE's:

How It Works

ACE (angiotensin-converting enzyme) inhibitors interfere with the formation of a hormone (angiotensin II) that can narrow (constrict) blood vessels. ACE inhibitors help lower blood pressure and reduce the workload on the heart, which lowers the chances of heart attack.

Why It Is Used

ACE inhibitors are recommended immediately after a heart attack to reduce complications. These drugs frequently are used to treat high blood pressure and heart failure.

How Well It Works

ACE inhibitors often are used in people who have recently had a heart attack and who have heart failure or decreased function of the left ventricle. ACE inhibitors, if used within 24 hours of the start of heart attack symptoms, appear to reduce the risk of death associated with the heart attack.1 Use of ACE inhibitors following a heart attack can also help prevent the development of heart failure related to a heart attack.

A recent study (the HOPE trial) concluded that ramipril (Altace) reduced the rate of death, heart attack, and stroke in people who were at high risk for these problems but who did not have any signs of heart failure or other abnormal heart function. This new study suggests that, in addition to people who already have known abnormal heart function or heart failure, people at high risk for a heart attack or sudden death from coronary artery disease also may benefit from taking ramipril.2

Side Effects

Side effects may include:

Cough. A cough is one of the most common side effects of ACE inhibitors. Most people find the cough to be a minor problem that they can tolerate in exchange for the benefits of this medication. If coughing is a severe problem, other medications can be tried.
Low blood pressure. Another side effect of ACE inhibitors may be low blood pressure, which may cause symptoms of dizziness, weakness, or fainting. People with low to normal blood pressure generally will be started on a low dose of medication and need to have their blood pressure monitored regularly.
Swelling. Swelling in the face, neck, lips, throat, hands, feet, or genitals rarely may occur when using ACE inhibitors. If swelling affects the face or throat, it can interfere with breathing. If this occurs, notify your doctor immediately.

cybersteffan
08-17-2002, 01:20 AM
info on ARBs

Angiotensin-receptor blockers (ARBs) may be used instead of an ACE inhibitor when a person is unable to tolerate certain side effects of an ACE inhibitor.

How It Works

Angiotensin II receptor blockers inhibit a substance that causes blood vessels to narrow (constrict). As a result, blood vessels relax and widen (dilate), making it easier for blood to flow through the vessels, which reduces blood pressure. These medications also increase the release of water and salt (sodium) to the urine, which in turn lowers blood pressure as well.

Preventing the blood vessels from constricting helps improve blood flow, which reduces the backup of blood in the heart and lungs. It also decreases the pressure that the left ventricle of the heart must pump against.

Angiotensin II receptor blockers also act directly on the hormones that regulate sodium and water balance.

Why It Is Used

Angiotensin II receptor blockers can be used to treat heart failure or kidney disease from diabetes (diabetic nephropathy) in some people who cannot tolerate ACE inhibitors.

How Well It Works

Angiotensin II receptor blockers (ARBs) may improve symptoms of heart failure but have not been shown to prolong life.1 Until more research is completed, ACE inhibitors remain the first line of therapy for heart failure unless side effects of an ACE inhibitor cannot be tolerated.2 A recent study (ELITE II) showed losartan was not more effective than an ACE inhibitor but may have fewer side effects.3

ARBs reduce the amount of protein in the urine of people with type 1 diabetes. Studies are under way to find out if these medications also protect the kidneys from diabetic nephropathy. One initial study has shown that ARBs work as well as ACE inhibitors to protect the kidneys of people with heart failure.4

Side Effects

Low blood pressure is the most common side effect with angiotensin II receptor blockers. ARBs can also worsen kidney function and raise potassium levels.

ARBs may interact with nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs), antacids, potassium supplements, certain diuretics, and lithium. If you are taking one of these medications, talk with your doctor before taking any other medications.

See Drug Reference for a full list of side effects. (Drug Reference is not available in all systems.)

What to Think About

ACE inhibitors rather than angiotensin II receptor blockers (ARBs) continue to be the medication of choice for heart failure and diabetic nephropathy.5

Angiotensin II receptor blockers may increase potassium levels in the blood.

ARBs can worsen kidney function in people with reduced kidney function.

ARBs should not be used in pregnancy.

Angiotensin II receptor blockers may interact with nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs), antacids, potassium supplements, certain diuretics, and lithium. If you are taking one of these medications, talk with your doctor before taking any other medications.

Side Effects

Side effects may include:

Cough. A cough is one of the most common side effects of ACE inhibitors. Most people find the cough to be a minor problem that they can tolerate in exchange for the benefits of this medication. If coughing is a severe problem, other medications can be tried.
Low blood pressure. Another side effect of ACE inhibitors may be low blood pressure, which may cause symptoms of dizziness, weakness, or fainting. People with low to normal blood pressure generally will be started on a low dose of medication and need to have their blood pressure monitored regularly.
Swelling. Swelling in the face, neck, lips, throat, hands, feet, or genitals rarely may occur when using ACE inhibitors. If swelling affects the face or throat, it can interfere with breathing. If this occurs, notify your doctor immediately.

shokjosh456
08-17-2002, 01:21 AM
Originally posted by cyberstefke
Well it seems to be a ARB (Angiotensin II receptor blocker) instead of and ACE (angiotensin-converting enzyme)

Whats the difference...excuse my ignorance,but im not educated in that department

shokjosh456
08-17-2002, 01:22 AM
My bad,I see it...you beat me to it :D

shokjosh456
08-17-2002, 01:27 AM
How would this effect one on steroids?do you know?

cybersteffan
08-17-2002, 01:38 AM
Alas I'm still trying to fihure it out. But decadent is on an ACE so I guess it works ok.

insulinAL
08-17-2002, 09:27 AM
woa....chronic information man...thanks bro