To Failure or Not to Failure???!!!!

J

Jason

New member
Ok, I was doing a training program in which I did about 12 sets per muscle (3 exercises) , 3 of those sets were to complete failure. I was told by someone to do two light warm ups and 2 heavy to failure per exercise. What do you guys think works best??????? I have also read that by going to failure on every set that somehow your cns can not recover from workout to workout. Can some explain this a little further and give my the best method of training, I'm a little confused???
Thanks,
Jason
 
Presser said:
going to failure is the only way i will train period, i cant remember the last time i counted reps,only count sets bro, why limit urself ya know
Click to expand...
So, you go to complete failure on every set of every exercise?
 
ONLY TIME YOU DON'T GO TO FAILURE IS WARMUP SETS WITH LIGHTER WEIGHT SAY YOU START BENCHING WITH 185 WARMUP FOR 10REPS FOR 2 SETS THAN YOU CAN GO TO YOUR WORKING SETS. ALL WORKING SETS SHOULD BE TILL FAILURE
 
DADDY48 said:
ONLY TIME YOU DON'T GO TO FAILURE IS WARMUP SETS WITH LIGHTER WEIGHT SAY YOU START BENCHING WITH 185 WARMUP FOR 10REPS FOR 2 SETS THAN YOU CAN GO TO YOUR WORKING SETS. ALL WORKING SETS SHOULD BE TILL FAILURE
Click to expand...
This is exactly how I have been training, until I read a bunch of threads over at elite about how you shouldn't go to failure every set. Then I asked a guy who competes often and he agreed that all sets shouldn't go until failure. So I guess there is no truth to this theory????????:confused:
 
you should have a set routine, like a science, i see no problem with going till failure if you do NOT overwork your muscles and have adequit rest
 
It all depends. I wasn't gonna answer at first but I will anyway...

I never go to failure. I have a set workout scheme and just stick with that. I grow nicely and I sure don't grow better if I go to failure. Muscle growth is caused by a stimulus. Once that stimulus is reached by training than you are settled. I think everything above is just a waste of time and energy.

People in the gym are often very jealous of what I have accomplished with such low input. Sometimes it's just i and out of the gym. I've done very well on just giving my muscles the right stimuli and I have never grown bigger or stronger with going to failure.

THIS IS A VERY PERSONAL OPINION. I DO NOT THINK TWO BODIES IN THIS WORLD ARE ALIKE AND WE ALL RESPOND DIFFERENTLY TO DIFFERENT THINGS. WHAT MAY WORK FOR ME MAY NOT WORK FOR YOU!!!


Later bro!
 
LaMastaKilla said:
you should have a set routine, like a science, i see no problem with going till failure if you do NOT overwork your muscles and have adequit rest
Click to expand...
I don't have a set routine, but I've been trying this new approach and my strength is going up faster then ever.
 
LaMastaKilla said:
FAILURE. . . .lift hard or get the **** outta the gym, just keep strict form
Click to expand...

I agree totally. When I see people working out I always roll my eyes about their form.

I rolled my eyes this week at a guy who was benching reps on end at 90 kgs (198 lbs). He asked what was up and when I showed him how to do the bench with strict form he was hardly able to bench 40 kgs for a single rep.

I'd rather train with sissy weights in perfect from than to struggle with heavy weights. I know why my previous gym was called 'the iron jungle' ;)
 
I try not to go to failure, every time i do it seams that i get hurt or hurt alot afterwards. the lowest rep range i do is arond 4-5 i do about 2 sets for warmup on everything . a friend of mine had a great idea save all energy by not warming up and do a max bench press. he did it 405 at a body weight of around 170. now that his pec is messed up he can do about 250.
 
Do both at different times.. If you do the same exact exercise and routine all the time, you could be limiting your growth potential.
Every once in a while, you need to shock the muscles with something new.
 
I totally agree that failure on every move is paramount, but I count reps for 2 reasons:

1. Try alternating heavy/light weeks - always to failure on the working set, but week 1 do high reps 15-17, week 2 do low reps(5-6)

2. The bottom line is that you are moving x-weight y-distance, the distance is a function of reps, if you don't count how many it takes to get to failure then you really don't have a good idea of progress.
 
Going to failure is what works for me, however, every 6 weeks I will switch to 4 weeks of supersets.

ZZZOOM
 
99% of the time I go to failure except on warm-ups. And once I reach failure, my spotter helps me squeeze out 2-3 more reps. I always try and shock my body by doing different exercises, highreps, low reps etc.
 
Chemical Evolution said:


I use the waight and the mirrow to se progress! :D
Click to expand...


I need something a bit more quatitative than that -- I just don't do well with touchy-feely approach to body building.....
 
sgrinavi said:
[2. The bottom line is that you are moving x-weight y-distance, the distance is a function of reps, if you don't count how many it takes to get to failure then you really don't have a good idea of progress. [/B]
Click to expand...
...very true...
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

Presser
Training to Failure on Every Set
Replies
2
Views
93
Presser
Presser
Muscle Insider
30-Minute Gains — Jeremy Ethier Explains Science For Improved Training Efficiency
Replies
0
Views
90
Muscle Insider
Muscle Insider
Muscle Insider
Jeff Nippard Uses Science to Analyze Sam Sulek’s Training
Replies
0
Views
69
Muscle Insider
Muscle Insider
Muscle Insider
Will Tennyson’s Tricks For Boulder Shoulder Width: 45-Degree Technique, Myo Reps, and More
Replies
0
Views
69
Muscle Insider
Muscle Insider
Muscle Insider
Mitchell Hooper and Dr. Mike Israetel Dissect Training for Size Versus Strength
Replies
0
Views
527
Muscle Insider
Muscle Insider
Back
Top