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Toilet Hamster
08-18-2002, 11:31 PM
please give your opinions guys. my kidneys are seriously aching. at first i thought it was my back but now i know it isnt. i am on my third week of liquid dbol at 37.5 mg a day. all i have been taking is 500-1000mg ALA a day. i am going to get some milk-thisle and cranberry extract tomorrow. and take about 2000mg a day of those. i guess i will quit the dbol for a couple days and if it gets better, try continuing from there...? also Ive been drinking under a gallon of water a day. i am going to up that as well. any more suggestions? what do you think about trying to continue with the dbol after a few days? also, my shot day is tomorrow, should i delay it for a couple days? also, my urine is light colored still, thats a good sign right?

kossdeh
08-18-2002, 11:39 PM
dude, you're back. you were the talk of the town while you were away. you aught to do a search on your handle.
as for your question, your dbol dosage isnt bad even for a newbie. i would be surprised if its really your kidneys that hurt. a much more plausible explanation for your pain is lower back pain which is quite prevalent with dbol usage. dbol is notorious for "pumping" your muscles. the pump can be excruciating in the lower back and legs. even with little excersize in those areas, they really do get worked up. for example, take a jog or do some light deadlifts and see what happens. with very little strain the muscles just pump up to their maximum size and stay in what seems like a fully contracted state. it hurts like shit.
if its your kidneys, maybe you should adjust your dosage and start a little lower (25mg/day). but really investigate this further. a lot of people confuse muscular pain in the back with kidney pain.

rooster1
08-18-2002, 11:47 PM
I take 1600mg ALA daily,1800mg milk thistle x4 times daily,and between a gallon and two gallons of water daily.Been on IP dbol for two weeks,50mg ed with no back problems at all until today I sort of pulled a muscle in my lower back but don't think its related.

LaMastaKilla
08-19-2002, 01:22 AM
drink lots of water and get some cranberry extract. . . d-bol gave me pains in my kidneys as well, they always started with a sick pump but at night tryin to sleep with it got tough. . . . if it proceeds i'd think about cutting to 25mgs ed or dropping it. . . . although i must say i love d-bol

MacGyver
08-19-2002, 02:03 AM
I would seriously up your water intake!

cybersteffan
08-19-2002, 06:40 AM
Who says it's your kidneys? They are not something that start hurting quite easily. It would be much more logical if it was your back. Back pain can spread out quite hard. You should see a doc and make sure.

drab4
08-19-2002, 04:46 PM
I agree with cyberstefke bro. The chances that it is kidney pain are very small. The chances that it is back pain are very large.

DecaDent*
08-19-2002, 05:14 PM
And cranberry is worthless for the kidneys when it comes to protecting them from AAS. Don't waste your money on it guys.

BStrongBwell*
08-19-2002, 06:29 PM
If it IS kidneys...up the water to 1.5 gal and make sure you take in plenty of potassium

If it ISN'T kidneys, i.e. your back...keep your hams and lower back stretched out. I recommend stretching your hams 2x a day. Those hammies can really pull down hard when they tighten up and don't get stretched out.

cybersteffan
08-20-2002, 09:08 AM
Originally posted by Chemical Evolution

Hey Doc ;) What whould be good then???

Nothing. There is no natural supplement that will help your kidneys when they are in real trouble. Only thing you can do is drink a right amount of water (so not to much as well, cuz they could get overstressed), and hope they cleans themselves.

Kidneys problems are not to be taking lightly IMO.

Gear101*
08-20-2002, 02:31 PM
old fashion tab water.. 8 liter ed

LardGrandma
09-19-2004, 06:18 PM
Oh man My Kidneys hurt too. That's cuz I drak a lot of Dbol mixers last night. We had a Dbol Tequila party. For some strange reason when I awoke my my mouth tasted like napkins, and when I pee it comes out orange.

I'm thinking you should drink more water, my nutritionalist tells me to drink at least 1.5 Gallons of water or pickle juice a dday. Did you know that the vinegar in the pickle juice will actually help you lose weight faster?

I don't drink milk, I think milk is for pussies. Wooh Osteoperosis! WHen they drop the bomb on us and the Strontium 90 from the fallout bonds to the calcium in your teeth and your partners are getting blisters on their faces and dying from radioactive blowjobs don't come crying to me, when you could have had a lot of coffee and cigarettes to leech out the evils. But i guess that also means that only old people and people who live at Denny's will survive the nuclear holocaust and I don't know if I want to live in a world where the coffee is so bad that no matter what you do to it it still tastes like ashtrays. I guess that's what god meant by the weak shall inherit the something... Whatever, I don't go to church, but my therapist tells me it's all a lot of bull yang anyway. He says I should just shoot myself and that my parents would be all the better if I died, although I can't recall me ever telling him about them.

Hey! Did any of you vote? I'm voting for Green Party Wooh! Yay for guns! I strongly believe that homeless veterans should be allowed to shoot firearms even though they live under bridges instead of in the country where there freedom would be appreciated. What's the difference between an indian and a homeless person? We took their land, we raped their women, we shoot up with their heroine and wait a minute that is what's similar about them. The only thing different is that we gave the indians plague infested blankets and they died. Damn homeless people and their immunity to everything.

What are your thoughts on this Toilet Hamster?

pop
09-20-2004, 05:39 AM
2 much water can cause aches in kidneys , have u increased water intake , if not it probably wont b that but if your drinking a lot more it mayb.

shockfusion
09-20-2004, 08:39 AM
WTF? This post is from 2002 guys! Just a little out of date lol!

LardGrandma
09-20-2004, 03:09 PM
I mean this in the most friendly and non-homophobic way, but you're all a bunch of homos!

I love you guys

recon
09-22-2004, 05:59 PM
Bro, I don't know who you are but you definitely one seriously deranged dude.......I was laughing so f**king hard reading your post that my wife came runnin in....she thought i was chokin......LMAO....your alright