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cybersteffan
08-21-2002, 10:19 AM
I always take my ECA stack (or mostly just some pure E) half an hour before my workouts on an empty stomach.

Now my friend gave me a bottle of EAS Betalean the other day because he didn't like it and since I was out of ephedrine I took two caps today 30 minutes before working out. I was mad it didn't do jack shit. I felt tired as hell in the gym and left home early.

Now it's been 4 hours since I took and now this stuff is kickin in. And hard. I feel jittery as hell and my hands won't stop shaking. Aaargh. Maybe I should head back to the gym :D

Anybody else use this product? Post yer experiences please!

WeirdAl
08-21-2002, 10:47 AM
I've used it before, and I think it hit me a little more slowly than NYC or generic (Xtreme lean) ECA. I also burp it for a while after taking it, and I think the recommended dosage on the package is 3 capsules (vs. 2 for the xtreme lean). Overall, I liked it, but you can see what I have to compare it to. NYC is the best, IMO - that stuff hit me hard! :)

highlandgamer
08-21-2002, 11:09 AM
I am pretty sure that Betalean is a timerealesed formula to prevent the roller coaster ride like you get from Hydroxycut. Personally I like the quit blast and then crash later, so I just use the homemade ECA stack. I like Ephedrine Hcl better than any of the herbal formulas. Plus it is cheap as he!! too. Something like 6 bucks for 90 Ephedrine pills. then whatever fo the Caffeine and Asprin

tubman
08-21-2002, 11:13 AM
check the bottle and see if the shit is time released......I just use ripped fuel cause it's the only one that works for me....I've tried Xenadrine and Hydroxy but they didn't do jack for me.

Other than that as a general rule I shy away from EAS crap.....over priced in my opinion.

tubs

cybersteffan
08-21-2002, 11:17 AM
Originally posted by highlandgamer
Personally I like the quit blast and then crash later, so I just use the homemade ECA stack. I like Ephedrine Hcl better than any of the herbal formulas.

Well same here. That's why I find it a stupid product. I'll go the pharmacy tomorrow and by some new ephedrine, that's for sure.

highlandgamer
08-21-2002, 11:21 AM
And the funny thing is, as long as it is marketed as a supplement it will be the herbal fomula of ephedrine. The ones I get I just buy at the gas station cause they are soldas a bronchildilator so they have the man made stuff, much more potent IMO

cybersteffan
08-21-2002, 11:21 AM
Well the bottle says jack shit!!! '

'Take 2 capsules before meals and/or exercise'. There nothing else on it besides the ingredient list and the word 'store in a cool and dry place'. Well I would have to find one. Its hot and himid. If I find a cool and dry place I'll be in it myself.

Anyway, I feel terrible. I have a date tonight I just feel to jittery. I wanna be cool and laid back but that's not gonna happen I think. Hope it wears of quickly. I guess alcohol woould counteract but I don't drink.

highlandgamer
08-21-2002, 11:42 AM
Eas
BetaLean HP
Nutritional Facts
Serving size 3 capsules
Amount Per Serving

Alpha Lipoic Acid 100 mg
L-Tyrosine 500 mg
Green Tea Leaf Extract
(Standardized to 50% polyphenols; 35% catechins) 300 mg
Ma Huang extract (Ephedra Sinica)(stems) 250 mg
Ma Huang extract (Standardized to 8% Ephedrine Alkaloids) 20 mg
Coleus Forskohli (Standardized to 10% Forskohlin) 50 mg
Caffeine (from Caffeine Anhydrous) 150 mg
Naringin 100 mg

Ingredients:
Microcrystaline cellulose, pectin, modified cellulose, silica, and
magnesium stearate.

Recommended use:
Take 3 capsules, twice daily before meals and/or exercise.
Do not exceed 5 days per week or 9 capsules per day.
After 12 weeks of use, discontinue for two weeks.

I got this off dps nutrition. It si probably listed on the supplement facts on the box that the bottle is packaged in. Svcks that they don't put it on the bottle too.

But anyway any time that you see extract fro Ephedrine Alkaloids or extract for some percentage of ehpedrine it is the herbal formula.

Goo thing you don't drink bro, Alchohol and stimulants jsut don't mix. I drank once while I was on Hydroxycut and I went from sober to falling down blackout drunk in about five or six drinks. It multipies the effects of the stimulants by alot and by the time you realize it it is too late cause you will have already puked all over yourself and your date lol

cybersteffan
08-21-2002, 11:50 AM
Originally posted by highlandgamer
Eas
BetaLean HP
Nutritional Facts
Serving size 3 capsules
Amount Per Serving

Alpha Lipoic Acid 100 mg
L-Tyrosine 500 mg
Green Tea Leaf Extract
(Standardized to 50% polyphenols; 35% catechins) 300 mg
Ma Huang extract (Ephedra Sinica)(stems) 250 mg
Ma Huang extract (Standardized to 8% Ephedrine Alkaloids) 20 mg
Coleus Forskohli (Standardized to 10% Forskohlin) 50 mg
Caffeine (from Caffeine Anhydrous) 150 mg
Naringin 100 mg

Ingredients:
Microcrystaline cellulose, pectin, modified cellulose, silica, and
magnesium stearate.

Recommended use:
Take 3 capsules, twice daily before meals and/or exercise.
Do not exceed 5 days per week or 9 capsules per day.
After 12 weeks of use, discontinue for two weeks.



Eas
BetaLean HP
Nutritional Facts
Serving size 2 capsules
Amount Per Serving

Green Tea Leaf Extract (35% catechins, 10 EGCG, 9% caffeine) 340mg
Citrus Aurantium (6% synephrine) 300mg
Garcinia Cambogia (50% HCA) 250mg
Guarana (22% caffeine) 200mg
Caffeine 120mg
White Willow Bark 100mg
Grapefruit Extract (84% Narangin) 50 mg
Cayenne 15 mg

Recommended use:
Take 2 capsules, twice daily before meals and/or exercise.



Thats quite different huh!

cybersteffan
08-21-2002, 11:52 AM
Originally posted by Chemical Evolution


Can you get syntetic Ephedrin at a pharmacy??? .confused:

Wel I guess It's synthetic yes. It surely isn't herbal. They are white tablets. It is bitartrae though and not HCL. Don't know if there is any difference. I really like it!

highlandgamer
08-21-2002, 11:53 AM
Originally posted by Chemical Evolution


Can you get syntetic Ephedrin at a pharmacy??? .confused:


You might be able to. I am not srue I haven't ever checked. With all the bad press I wouldn't be surprised if most pharmacies don't carry it. I jus tknow I always get mine at the gas station.

cybersteffan
08-21-2002, 11:54 AM
There is a picture of it in the gear pic's forum! It sold legally here in the pharmacy. Bodybuilding and sports are not a major issue here and most people haven't evenE heard of ephedrine and so there is no publicity and it's still legal.

highlandgamer
08-21-2002, 12:12 PM
You should be set then, just be sure it is Hcl............ if that is what you are looking for.

cybersteffan
08-21-2002, 12:20 PM
Originally posted by highlandgamer
You should be set then, just be sure it is Hcl............ if that is what you are looking for.

It isn't. Like I said it's ephedrine bitartrate. Any difference?

Small
08-21-2002, 12:25 PM
I get mine Ephedrine HCL in pharmacy, OTC. It calls Broncaide, $11 for 60 pills, 25mg each. Very good stuff, much better then herbal.

highlandgamer
08-21-2002, 12:28 PM
Originally posted by cyberstefke


It isn't. Like I said it's ephedrine bitartrate. Any difference?

Not sure about that. I have never heard of it before, I will do some serchign and see wha tI can find

cybersteffan
08-21-2002, 12:31 PM
I haven't found much on it. The product is made in Belgium by Medgenix. They don't have a website. I like it though. It's a bit milder but I just up the dose.

highlandgamer
08-21-2002, 02:17 PM
Originally posted by Chemical Evolution

Gas????? :confused:

That's right, the gas station. They sell them there for truckers to use to stay awake on the road, easier than spillign hot coffee on the crotch.

tubman
08-21-2002, 02:21 PM
The only thing I can think of to get that shit out of your system quick is to go run your ass off!!!!!!!!! Seriously go out and find a field or somthing and Sprint and Sprint and Sprint......either that or go and do some hig intensity cardio.........and drink a ton of water to flush you out bro.

-tubs

rugbythug
08-21-2002, 02:39 PM
don't drink on that stuff man. I did a long time ago before I knew better. I would take some at the latest 2 pm and then when I would drink I would black out. My mind shut down but the body just kept going. I woke up naked with some chic I didn't know. I hit a good friend in the face for no reason, head butted another on a different occasion. Got in lots of fights with strangers. But I never new about it till I got up the next day, and people started telling me what i did. Now i don't drink, cant get ripped that way anyhow

cybersteffan
08-23-2002, 07:15 AM
Aarghhh... I just came from the pharmcy and found out they stopt manufacturing ephedrine. There is only one brand that makes it. So it's still legal, but it cannor be bought!!!

Luckily a friend is going to Italy soon!

cybersteffan
08-23-2002, 08:34 AM
I've been driving to ever pharmacy this afternoon to get my hands on every stock still available.

I asked the clerck and there is no difference between HCL and the bitartrate. They are both salts to get into your bodies. Kinda laiek a AS ester. In the end you just get the E in your bodie no mater what it comes attached to. Now there's a lot of difference between an prop and a cyp ester, but in this case HCL and bitartrate seem to be quite the same!