need opinion on beginner cycle

Hey guys,

I've got a few questions.

I've been doing lots of research on the internet. read so much, my eyes hurt.
Went to go see my source. He advised on 12weeks for beginner. I'm like ok. he's got more experience than i do, so lets just see the quote there.

12wk Cycle

weeks 1-12 dbol 500tabs
300mg Primo
200mg Test

and of course Clomid at the end

I originally wanted to do 8-10wks but i was quoted for 12weeks. Not sure if i can post prices, but i just wanted to know whether this is on par with other CDN sources. I know average how much they should go in USD.

Can I post the price that i'm getting, see what you guys think? I know some of you guys are outspoken

Anyways, i'm 155lb, 5'7 and 20 years old. Going on 21.

I want to gain mass, and lots of it. Got a good diet, good workout routine.

Oh yeah, i'm taking propecia normally, so i guess Deca is out.

You can post prices, just not sources.

If this is a first cycle test and primo can give you good results. I'd switch doses however, 300 test and 200 primo. Go with Chem on the dbol and only do it for the first weeks. Take 10mg four times daily.

I Agree with Chemical Evolution! Knock out the Primo & go with EQ or Deca. Keep the Test at a mininum of 400 per week and limit the dbol to 6 weeks max.

You don't need androgens at that age...eat & train properly and reconsider in about 5-7 years.

Re: Well lets take a look!

Chemical Evolution said:

You dont want to run the D-bol for the full 12 weeks thats for sure! Run the D-bol for the first 4-6 weeks at 35-50mg/day!

The test should be at least 3-400mgs/week for it really to kick in!

The primo should be okey at 300, but why not do something like Eq instead? youll get better/larger results!

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gotta agree good advice ...drop the primo and save urself some money ...get some eq and run it at 400mg for 12weeks ..ull be happier with the results plus it will make u hard and vascular ...

goldenear said:

You don't need androgens at that age...eat & train properly and reconsider in about 5-7 years.

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if thats the case half of the guys on this board probaly shouldnt be juicing ...i agree he should probaly train naturally a while longer and could make some gains but couldnt we all when we first started ..who really reached the gentic potential before the touched juice ??????

i thought running dbol for 1-12 weeks was kinda wierd. I was gonna originally do it for 1-3 but i mean the guy had more experience than me. So i'm like let's just see.

i'm gonna check on the EQ see if it is available.
Ok, well what do you guys think of this:

Primo Depot $20/amp
Test Depot $18/amp 250mg
D-Bol Tab $1 per tab 5mg

that's canadian.

those prices are insane ...i would look for another source ...are those gym prices ???

primo and test $12-14 amp is most id pay
d-bol depending on how much u buy 50-75 cents ..thats if they are gym prices ...u might wanan shop around

Why don't you save yourself the hassle of stacking. If you want to put on some size for now..then I would run Test Enanthate at 400-600mg a week for 10 weeks and d-bol 30-40mg ED for the 1st 4 weeks. You could add EQ or Deca but its not neccesary. A test only cycle yields good gains....people just don't do them anymore. Not cause they don't work..but because everyone believes that more AAS is better...which is also not neccesarily true. Not to mention your talking about something in the $225 range of TOTAL cycle price(minus anti's E's) and that is pricing the d-bol at $1 for a 10mg tab. Just my opinion..........456

Oh yeah and your friend with the "experience"...is a dipshit. You can tell him I said that too. Anyone recommending D-bol for 12 weeks for ANYBODY is a retard and doesn't know jack shit about AAS. Not to mention using Primo with Test on a cycle to gain lots of size?? That would break the bank..primo is used a lot for cutting or bridging. Tell your "friend" that he is a very bad example of someone who uses AAS.

those prices are insane ...i would look for another source ...are those gym prices ???

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no, those are a guy who sells supplements.

mr456, that wasn't my friend. I don't think i said anything about friend. But i see where yer coming from. I thought Dbol for the full 12 weeks was not right either, but i let it fly anyways. Not like i bought the gear.

hey wasted, are those prices in US? cuz mine are in canadian.

If yours are cdn, then for sure i need new source. damn.

Anyone from vancity here?

shit bro sorry i missed the part about CND ....my bad ...

RE: CDN Prices....

If you have a good source, you can get D-bol at a much cheaper price. On average, most psople pay $90/100 5mg tabs for brand name. The primo is expensive, is faked quite a bit, and is only 100mg/vial. So I would drop it. Plus it doesn't really play an important role in your cycle. $18 for the test is ok....there are companies like Spectro and other undergrounds that sell their versions for cheaper
Like 456 said, d-bol for the first 4 weeks at maybe 30mg spread out the day plu 500mg of test per week is a great cycle to start out with. Dont forget clomid/Nolva. And remember EAT, train, rest and EAT.

dude why dont you trying to hit a plateau before you deside on the AS