would you???

next go around with gear i was thinking of 500mgs a week of cyp for 12 weeks considering takes about 2-3 weeks for the cyp to kick in with some winny weeks 12-15.I was woundering if it would be better to do d-bol for the first 3 weeks while the cyp kicks in or would prop every 3 days at 100mgs-150 be better? I plan to inject every 3 or 4 days (cyp)...but adding the prop at the beginning and the end (weeks 1-3 and 12-15) to keep test levels at a constant. That would be better right?

The last go around for me i had some fake shit (my oils) but my tabs were great!!!! But for ten weeks i was consuming about 4500 cal a day, but most of the weight gained was fucking fat!( I normally consume about 2500 cal a day. (also was given some bad advice about the running of my cycle.....and no it wasnt from this board......but this is my home now!!!!!)

Also how much of a dose of armi would be best... .25 or .50?
I also plan on taking 20 mgs of nolva a day and 50 mgs of clomid every 3 days.

last question
would i need hgc with the way i will be taking the nolva and clomid and armi......and if so when and how much?

i am 5'10"
220 lbs
work a very phisical job and train 3-5 days a week
cardio 1-2 times a week (work sometimes is plenty of cardio at times)
just tring to gain some muscle while losing the fat gained from my last cycle.

i think using the prop to kick start and than again to taper off is a good idea. arimidex at .25 of arimidex to start and you can increase if necassary, you should pay special attention to your diet to gain muscle in the begining and mid cycle, than switch the diet to burn fat and conserve muscle towards the end. i'd prefer prop and winny weeks12-15 while dieting. good luck bro

I'd rather use the dbol as kickstart. Heard and seen real great results!!! I would also use enanthat over cyp!

Bro fuk it just go for dbol and prop. both.

I Agree.

Enth is going to be a helluva lot cheaper than cyp. Can't say that I personally have noticed a real difference.

Kickstarting with dbol is good stuff, too. Never taken prop so I can't comment on that.

Just eat like a horse and make sure you get all your protein! It's all good...

The dbol provides both a good mental and physical boost. I love it for that. The work outs can get shitty after a while because of the pumps though. Three weeks stretch should keep that from happening for you though.
Cyp or eth, dont make no diff IMO. Im sure you'll get lots of conflicting info re that. Go with whats cheaper. Prop at the start, may be nice, but may not be necessary. Good rationale for the end though.
.25 arimidex is adequate. The nolva is fine but save the clomid for after only. None during the cycle (i think you said every three weeks).
HCG may be overkill. Your cycle is not too heavy and with the other three you should be ok. Save it for your next cycle.