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Harvey Balboner
08-29-2002, 06:44 PM
I have a friend who wants to juice, he knows that I juice, so he is bothering me to hook him up.

Anyway, here is the unusual part, this guy used to be very fat, he lost a lot of weight by going on a no fat diet. Well now that he has lost his weight, he is still not eating any fat (I mean ZERO fat most days, all he will buy is fat free products rice, beans, fat free lunch meat, fat free hotdogs, etc., on some days he may eat as much as 3 grams of fat a day, some boneless, skinless chicken breast) so I know his diet is not in balance.

My concern is he wants to juice, and I know if I don't get him hooked up with some stuff, somebody else will, and I don't want him to end up taking some stuff and hurting himself. With the way he eats what would be the sides be? On juice or not.

I have given up on convencing him he doesn't have to eat like that to stay thin, but he won't listen, it is almost like he has an eating disorder.

How would you guys handle him?

Big Guns
08-29-2002, 07:00 PM
Have him do 400mg of EQ a week. He'll be starving and eat everything in sight.

Regardless make him start taking flax seed oil.

Stupid Biotch
08-29-2002, 07:03 PM
Tell him, and this is the truth, that you need fat for bodily functions. Going without fat for too long can result in terrible hair, nails, skin, and even your eye balls hurting because of imporper lubrication in the sockets. Seriously. you need fat and your friend is a moron.

Gear101*
08-29-2002, 07:07 PM
tell him to cut down on the carbs and eat some animal fat and mostly vegatable fat.. and ask the guy why he whats to do gear

UCDFuBoO
08-29-2002, 08:12 PM
he's lost the weight yes... but does he have a good base to start with before taking AS?


I understand he lost a lot of weight but DO U THINK he's ready for AS? Does he have a good enough work-out regimine to start?

Harvey Balboner
08-30-2002, 12:15 AM
I have tried and tried to convence him that he needs fat in his diet, it is like some obsession with him, I read somewhere before, that if you stay on a low fat diet long enough it lowers testorone levels and can eventually make you impodent, but telling him that didn't even work.

He wants to do gear to get bigger, his workout routine is ok, not great, but he can go a lot further naturally. I don't think he is ready, but some other guys are going to end up getting him some stuff, and I think he is going to fuck himself up.

He went from 250+ down to 160 he is about 6'1, he still has some body fat or loose skin, I would guess around 11% body fat.

I don't think he is ready, but I don't think he will listen.

Big Guns
08-30-2002, 08:54 AM
If he's 6'1 160 there is no way he is 11% bodyfat.

GetnBigr
08-30-2002, 09:10 AM
WHAT????

6'1" and 160--- no, no, no-- noway he is 11% bf

i am 6'1" and 196 ( I look thin, he has to be a stick figure)

I want to see a picture of this guy.

EVERYBODY NEEDS FAT----- I'm surprised he isn't clogged up

GetnBigr
08-30-2002, 09:13 AM
by the way, I wasn't flaming you...... I was shocked there for a minute..

good luck with your friend..... you may want to have him logon to this and read some posts

Harvey Balboner
08-30-2002, 10:40 AM
I was just estimating on the body fat, I guess I usually figure a little high, he is very thin, but he is not ripped, he has a layer of flab on his stomach & love handles. I guess what I mean is he is thin but he doesn't have a super low body fat, at his weight and height you should be able to see abs, and veins in his arms if his body fat was as low as it should.

I think I may have a picture, I will see if I can find it.

kossdeh
08-30-2002, 10:45 AM
Tell him that fat and cholestrol are the precursors for natrual hormones like testosterone. Aside from being absolutely essential for many other body functions especially when training hard. Then call him a retard if he still doesnt listen

Harvey Balboner
08-30-2002, 11:14 AM
GetnBigr, I found this pic, it was taken working out about 8 months ago, since then he may be about 5-10 pounds smaller.

Raoul3
09-04-2002, 10:02 PM
You can also tell him that if he continues like this he'll never be ripped!! Let alone the health hazards... He needs to cut down on the simple sugars and ADD some FAT!!! Not just any kind though, olive oil, avocado, macadamians etc... Small amounts each meal (4-6 meals a day if possible). He'll listen to you when his six-pack finally shows!! That's what I've done, lost 40lbs fat, gained 25lbs muscle and had a great six-pack ever since. I know diet can be your worse nightmare when done incorrectly, tell him not to make it worse than he should!

Harvey Balboner
09-04-2002, 10:21 PM
I've tried again to get him to start eating healthy fats, but he just refuses, I said there is a ton of difference between the fat you ate when he would eat a whole pizza in one sitting when you where fat, and the fat in meat, or salmon.

Get this, the other day, he ate an entire bag of orange slices the candy, only 1900 calories, I don't remember how much carbs and sugars, but no fat was his logic.

I am not going to help him get juice, if he gets it else where and fucks himself up, that's his problem. I told him if he starts eating a balanced diet, I might help him, until then no.

superchicken
09-05-2002, 01:40 AM
i met a dude today who sais protein makes you fat, so he lifts weights and refuses to eat protein. fukin moron, he wont listen either, even though i can bench like 3 times as much as him.

notacow
09-05-2002, 02:51 AM
It's pretty hard to actually eat 0.00% fat. Your average vegetable comes with 5% to 12% ( where do you think corn oil comes from?)
He's not actually eating candy and diet foods with ALL the oils refined out of them is he?
Doesn't that make you sick, or dead, or something, if you do that?

Tell him to research, research, research. 10 reps. And after that research, research, research. THEN you'll talk to him about AS.

Sometimes the truth is easier to swallow from an impersonal source.

Ecfatcat
09-05-2002, 02:53 AM
if this guy is cool let him read the thread.........

boking
09-05-2002, 03:11 AM
is he crazy to do AS? OMG

boking
09-05-2002, 03:11 AM
why would anyone want to?

boking
09-05-2002, 03:11 AM
doesn't he know about roid rage, lol