first cycle info needed

hey bros,

i am new to this board and would like any info anyone can give me. i have been back in the gym now for about 3 months, after about a 2 year layoff and i am still trimming. I am 30 yrs old, 5'9" and currently weighing about 197 lbs., down from 220 lbs. my goal is to get down to 180 - 185 lbs. when i start bulking i would like to bulk naturally before i use any gear, and before i touch any gear, i want to educate myself on the effects, both positive and negative, it will have on my body. my first cycle will be just that, my very first cycle. i already have some gear and would appreciate any info anyone who knows about dosing could give me. i have brovel test 200 and deca 200 (each bottle is 10cc), have a few bottles of each and dbol orals (5mg each). i would like to do a cycle or two, but no more than two. i also don't want to use any of it too soon and defeat the purpose, so sitting on it is not a concern. i am currently on a high protein, low carb diet and eating pretty clean. i am eating 5 times a day. i am taking 2 multi-vitamins a day and 4 eca stacks a day (2 in the a.m. and 2 in the afternoon), also having 3 protein shakes a day with 5g of L-glutamine in 1 & 3. don't know what my bf% is yet, but will find out soon at the gym. i do my cardio first thing in the morning on an empty stomach and then go to the gym in the afternoon, using light weights and doing high reps. any help is much appeciated. i have every intention of continuing my own research and have heard many good things about a book called the steroid bible which i will most likely purchase soon. thanks and peace.

wow bro your like the newbie from heaven! bro youve obviously got the big picture and you heads on straight. its nice to see someone who helps themselfs instead of relying on others for every answer under the sun.

im sure youll find tons of help here from all the bros.

start by readin some of the articles of intrest forum, and then get to asking questions.

the plan your on right now sounds dead on perfect bro, im sure youll get to your goals in no time at all.

as for the gear it sounds like you have almost all the components for a textbook first cycle.

All right bro...

It seems like you have you mind made up already...but I would suggest that you do a search on clomid, amridex, nolvadex, proviron, and liquidex.


If you have that all set...I would suggest this if you want to lose weight I wouldn't suggest that, I would go with a prop/EQ cycle.

This is what some of the bro's suggested around here....and they are good guys.

If this is your first cycle...and you afraid of the darts, then don't even bother.

But...if you're not:

75mg prop EOD
350-400mg EQ EW

For about 8-10 weeks...I have never done it...just what I've heard, and you must research your anti e's.

go to presser gear profiles and look up test cy.. sust.. deca.. winny and dbol.. those would make a good bulk cycle and winnie is right you need to look up your anti-e's too...

Using the three steroids you listed for a bulk cycle, a good combo would be
deca @ 400mgs wk thru out
test @ 400mgs wk same
dbol @ 35mgs ed wks 1 thu 4 or 5
Most cycles run between 8and 10 weeks.
As winnie said, look up the anti-e's that he mentioned.. They will help with various sides

You also need to look into liver and kidney protectants. ALA Tyler's Detoxifacation Factors, Cranberry extract.. and others

You'll also need to rework you diet.. especially with your carbs, keep your protein high. You can try to eat clean, but when on a bulking phase.. Eat a nasty thing that is available to you before ever going hungry.
Up your water intake.

Sounds like your heads on straight and you have clear goals. I agree wiith what the other guy's are saying about the anti-e's and post cycle thearapy are missing in your current layout. With the amout of gear you will be doing you could get by with just having Nolvadex on hand in case the excess estrogen causes any problems but I doubt that will be a problem. You do need to get your hands on some clomid for post cycle recovery of your natural test.

As for the dosing of your current gear I would do this.

-T-200 400-mg/wk
-Deca 400-mg/wk
-Dbol 30mg/ED (Split up evenly thoughout the day)first 4-6 weeks.

This would result in a small 2cc shot twice per week. As for the duration of the cycle I would shoot for 10-12 weeks. You could up the test to 500 if you want. I think that the Brovel test is a little underdosed, so you may not be taking exactly what you think mg wise, but it does get the job done.

-TAZ

thanks bros,

i definitely will take the advice on researching anti e's. i have read presser's profile forum, especially on the gear that i have. as far as the darts, they don't scare me. my water intake now is about 1 - 1 1/2 gal. a day, i think i am drinking a good bit of water, but i guess i could drink more. it's not like we will run out, lol. like i said i have nothing but time, so sitting on what i have is not a concern. this is definitely one of the best boards i have been a member of, there is a good bit of info in the profiles and having read through other posts the bros seem very cool. i look forward to more good things to come.

the chicken recomendation for 25 lbs(if diet is good)

wks 1-10 test 500mg wk
wks 1-9 deca 400mg wk
wks 1-4 dbol 35mg ed.
wks 1-15 liquidex .25-.5mg ed
start clomid 2 wks after last enanthate shot. run clomid 3 wks.

the liquidex will help keep water bloat to a minimum, as well as warding off gyno. it also helps many with acne.

i'll second SC approach. . . oh and don't forget search on "injecting" make sure you aspirate. . . .