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footballcat
09-06-2002, 08:38 AM
Who thinks he uses proformance enhancing drugs

kossdeh
09-06-2002, 08:40 AM
I heard he was a mormon dude. They cant even drink coffee. J/K
He had to have EPO administered when he was in chemo for the ball cancer. Maybe that might have something to do with his crazy high red blood cell count.

cybersteffan
09-06-2002, 09:02 AM
Off course he uses drugs. Normal people die from cancer and he wins the Tour de France four times in a row. I bet there is some serious amount of EPO involved.

Username
09-06-2002, 11:08 AM
he isn't human

superman1975
09-06-2002, 11:22 AM
he tested positive for tren--right after his recovery--so did a shitload of big name road pros--mainly the french men--the uscf covered it up--you cant prosecute the comeback kid--or what ever they call him--i met him when he still road for motorola--he was an asshole then--he has mellowed out a lot--i guess near death does that--maybe email animal he has more info on him then i do

the cats out of the bag--i am a bike nut--raced bmx as a kid, still race road bikes when the need arises and up until last year raced expert class norba xc

footballcat
09-06-2002, 11:29 AM
I think hes sweet, i use to road race. But football changed that, but I think he is the best ever. He will win next year, and maybe the year after.

kossdeh
09-06-2002, 01:21 PM
Got mixed feelings about the dude. I dont like him personally, he is an asshole. Only mellowed out b/c of the cancer. I think he used that as an excuse to use EPO. As far as the cancer, seminoma (most common ball cancer) is easily treated when caught early. You die otherwise. THey caught it early, popped one of the suckers out, a little chemo and epo and he was back at it.
As far as the tren, I never heard anything about. It would be big news and difficult to bury.

superman1975
09-06-2002, 06:01 PM
it was a big news story--do a search

Raoul3
09-06-2002, 10:38 PM
:rolleyes:

Beachbum1546
09-07-2002, 11:57 AM
Yeah, I have heard alot of things about lance. But i think all of it is bullshit. He rides like 75 miles everyday! Holy Shit! I have read that his resting heart rate is 25! Yeah sure the EPO probably helped him out but realize trhat he has worked his ass off.

notacow
09-08-2002, 06:49 AM
"seminoma (most common ball cancer)" my dad got that 15 years ago. He's fine.
Guess what they gave him for his recovery.
TEST !
btw he, my dad, was also a mormon. You see, it's not drugs. It's medicine so it's ok.

Gear101*
09-08-2002, 10:23 AM
not a big rap fan.. but anyone see LLCOOLJ.. gearhead.. LOL

notacow
06-14-2005, 10:19 PM
Lance had testicle cancer. He had one removed. My dad had that. What you get is a prescription for test. Think about being a mormon-dude in a situation like that. For hime it's all about medicine, not drugs. He has an excuse.

FreakNasty22
06-14-2005, 10:23 PM
I don't think he uses drugs, wait......... then again ronnie coleman doesn't do drugs, he just drinks weider protein, HA HA :laugh:

da_Fonz
06-14-2005, 11:31 PM
Not busted for tren but alot of them tested pos for rec drugs back in the day and they didnt cover it up. Actually the roadies said without us you have no race, and you know what there right.

Flexmaster
06-15-2005, 12:19 AM
i would imagine they do blood doping...as well as gh

crank
06-15-2005, 03:59 AM
Got mixed feelings about the dude. I dont like him personally, he is an asshole. Only mellowed out b/c of the cancer. I think he used that as an excuse to use EPO. As far as the cancer, seminoma (most common ball cancer) is easily treated when caught early. You die otherwise. THey caught it early, popped one of the suckers out, a little chemo and epo and he was back at it.
As far as the tren, I never heard anything about. It would be big news and difficult to bury.

:eek: Wow, you're pretty ignorant.

Cancer as an excuse to use EPO? He could barley walk and get out of bed. You think when he was about to die that he cared at all about winning bike races?

You think his cancer was easily treatable? You obviously have no clue at all how sick he was. Doctors were giving him maybe a 1 or 2% chance to live.

A little chemo and he was back at it?

Honestly, reading this is just disgusting.

This guy has done more for cancer research, sports and motivating people to get up off the couch and do something with their lives than most people in history.

You don't like him personally, he is an asshole? what kind of comment is that?

Just totally ignorant.....


It is possible that they might be using something, but who isn't and who cares?

I'm still skeptical he uses anything but I won't dismiss the possibility. He is/was the most drug tested athlete in the world. You'd think they would have found something, anything if he was using........

crank
06-15-2005, 04:15 AM
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06-15-2005, 04:18 AM
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da_Fonz
06-15-2005, 07:23 AM
Oh yeah, they do EPO often and there good at staying jussssst under the maximum allowed limit.

spud
06-15-2005, 10:33 AM
Lances cancer wasn't caught until it had spread to his gut and his brain. Yep, he had brain surgery to remove it. He's damn lucky to survive the cancer because they caught it so late. Read his book "It's Not About The Bike".

The general consensus is that just about all on the Le tour are doping. They are very sophisticated. One of Lances domestiques (workers) was tailed by a news crew to another town where they dumped a bag of trash. The news crew found, as I recall, syringes, insulin, HCG, and clomid. For what it's worth, HCG and clomid apparently are often prescribed for testicular cancer survivors.

Of course, Lance has never tested positive for performance enhancing drugs. He's also done a lot for cancer research and spends a lot of his free time visiting cancer wards - especially the pediatric ones. It takes balls to visit a kid dying of cancer. Big ones.

spud

saudades
06-15-2005, 12:41 PM
Lance had testicle cancer. He had one removed. My dad had that. What you get is a prescription for test. Think about being a mormon-dude in a situation like that. For hime it's all about medicine, not drugs. He has an excuse.

Lance is not Mormon. A lot of people here in Utah tend to make a fuss here when a celebrity joins the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (that's the real name of the church--Mormon is a nickname), and I've never heard anything about him joining. Gladys Knight on the the other hand, did join.

crank
06-15-2005, 04:17 PM
One of Lances domestiques (workers) was tailed by a news crew to another town where they dumped a bag of trash. The news crew found, as I recall, syringes, insulin, HCG, and clomid.

It wasn't another town, it was a garbage bin just outside their hotel. They found syringes. That's it. That's something EVERY rider in the tour has. It is impossible to replace everything the racers lose in their bodies through diet alone. It is impossible to eat that much.

Try riding hundreds of Kilometers every single day for 3 weeks..... You'll need to have extra vitamins, minerals, electrolytes and a whole bunch of other things replaced through IV or IM injects just to replace what your body lost.

Amazing athlete.

spud
06-15-2005, 04:35 PM
Don't get me wrong Zylo, I think he truly is amazing too.

His book was very interesting. He got a new lease on life and was able essentially to start training all over again and build his body to be a much better cyclist. Like the saying, "If I only knew then what I know now". He used his knowledge to rebuild himself. That's why he's so much stronger than before the cancer.
When he went to that Colorado Sports Center, they found he doesn't produce as much lactic acid as others do. I think he actually broke a stationary bike - pegged the watts.

Century rides kick my ass - I can't imagine what it's like for the pros!

spud

Chaps
06-15-2005, 11:25 PM
I think he's using EPO fo sure, i mean nowadays what athlete ISN'T using performance enhancing drugs? If you have that competitive attitude that you will do ANYTHING to be the best then u will use drugs.

crank
06-15-2005, 11:38 PM
I think he's using EPO fo sure, i mean nowadays what athlete ISN'T using performance enhancing drugs? If you have that competitive attitude that you will do ANYTHING to be the best then u will use drugs.

Don't you think they would have caught him by now? He wasn't one of, he WAS the most drug tested athlete in the world for many years. The entire country of France was trying to nail his ass for ANYTHING and they ran test after test after test for years. Everything always negative. They even took a sample of his blood from years ago they had kept frozen from before they could test for EPO (When most guys used it) and ran tests that came back negative.

I'm pretty skeptical that he uses.

tilla52
06-16-2005, 12:22 AM
Lance is the man, give him his props. And as in prop I don't mean test. LOL sorry had too