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bigjosh
09-14-2002, 02:32 AM
Under drug profiles at www.anabolicreview.com I pulled up the profile of Testosterone Propionate. Here is a section:

"......What athletes dislike most about propionate are the frequent injections that are necessary. As for frequent injections: The Testosterone Berco Suppositories by the German company Funke can help. This is quite an un-usual testosterone compound since these are suppositories. The suppositories contain 40 mg Testosterone propionate and are in-troduced into the body through the rectum. This form of intake also has an additional advantage. The substance Testosterone pro-pionate is reabsorbed very rapidly through the intestine. For a package with 18 suppositories the price on the black market is about $35. "

I am presently in the middle of a cycle and have 5g of Loeffler Test Prop, but the injections are so painful(literally crippling) I decided not to use it and have kept it out of my cycle. I was wondering if I put the Loeffler Prop in a gelcap and administerred it through the rectum if I'd get any absorbtion. What do you guys think? Aside from the fact that I like my ass to be an exit only I am dying to use this prop. does anyone think administering the prop this way would yield the same effects of the German Testosterone Berco Suppositories mentioned above? I have also read about taking fina via the rectum at elite w/ a high level of absorbtion.

Basically, would I get ANY absorbtion of my test prop if I administered it in a gelcap this way? Any thoughts on this are greatly appreciated. And I have to say for the record that I am not gay, I am simply addicted to AS!

bigjosh
09-14-2002, 02:39 AM
I figure this prop isn't worth that much, so if I waste it no big deal and also if I'm not using it it's sorta like wasting it. I will only resort to the above method if diluting my prop w/ peanut oil and injecting it doesn't work, but I'd still like to know if anyone knows if prop in oil can be administerred via the rectum. Thanks,,,bigjosh

thate1
09-14-2002, 03:18 AM
I've heard that people over at elite were trying this with fina pellets, so I don't see why prop wouldn't work too. Your ass wouldn't adsorb all of it though, probably comparable to dmso IMO.

superchicken
09-14-2002, 01:48 PM
i wouldnt try, its not gonna work.

get some sterile oil from finakits and dilute it if its painfull.

madchemist36
09-14-2002, 01:58 PM
hey bro in the future buy QV prop its painless.

hybrid
09-14-2002, 03:10 PM
Originally posted by superchicken
i wouldnt try, its not gonna work.

get some sterile oil from finakits and dilute it if its painfull.
this just goes to show how ignorant u r , adminastration thru the rectum is best next to IV adminastration, ask any body that has anymedical knowledge,when a vien can not be stuck with an iv they stick the iv in the patients ass,so dont say something wont work because U R WRONG

highside
09-14-2002, 03:26 PM
I have heard of people taking drugs this way to get screwed up worse. My questions is, would it be that good for you if it went straight into a blood stream like that. I thought it would be better to sit in a muscle and absorb as compared to being straight into the blood stream. Either way, I am sticking with injections.

hybrid
09-14-2002, 03:28 PM
it has to get to the blood stream to do anything,i wouldnt do it either it will increase ur risk of prostae cancer

Ecfatcat
09-14-2002, 04:27 PM
IM with the chicken on this one.... add oil and boil off the alchool

bigjosh
09-14-2002, 04:30 PM
I don't get how it would increase my risk of prostate cancer? Also, I know for a fact that taking AS via rectum works. I've read real studies done and the yield is seems to be almost as good as IM injections. I am most likely going to dilute it and inject, but am curious about rectal administration. And those of you who say it does not work are incorrect as far as I know. I was looking for input from those of you who know about AS rectal administration not input from people who never heard of it and think it doesn't work at all.

hybrid
09-14-2002, 05:40 PM
Originally posted by bigjosh
I don't get how it would increase my risk of prostate cancer? Also, I know for a fact that taking AS via rectum works. I've read real studies done and the yield is seems to be almost as good as IM injections. I am most likely going to dilute it and inject, but am curious about rectal administration. And those of you who say it does not work are incorrect as far as I know. I was looking for input from those of you who know about AS rectal administration not input from people who never heard of it and think it doesn't work at all.
AS period increase the risk of prostate cancer(do some research)prostae is right in the so it increases it even more,yes u r right those who dont think it works dont know what they r talking about plain and simple,but why do u want to stick shit in ur ass?

kossdeh
09-14-2002, 06:54 PM
Route of admin has nothing to do with increasing the likelihood of prostate cancer. As far as suppositories go, it is a great way to admin some meds. Lots of veinous exchange at the colon and descending large intestine. The question is whether, the suppositories have anything in them to increase bioavailability since the prop you have is not made for this type of administration. Look as some suppositories at the pharmacy and see if other than a wax coating and some lube, they may have something. Also, if its been done legit by some company, and the test is really absorbed into the system, then there is no reason why you cant figure out a way to do it too.

kossdeh
09-14-2002, 06:56 PM
BTW, SuperChik is a very honored and knowledgeable vet here and many other places. If he says no, its prob b/c he's tried it or has very good knowledge of why. Rather than blowing him off, I 'd inquire more.
Would love a way to get the prop in other than sticking ED. Even if its through my corn... I do love my corn

bigjosh
09-14-2002, 07:02 PM
I didn't mean any disrespect to anyone. As far as why I'd want to stick anything up my ass; I'm simply educating myself. One could just as easily say why would you want to stick a needle in you ED. I love needles but that's besides the point. I know AS increase the risk of prostate cancer, but I do not think taking it via the rectum makes it any more risky to your prostate. I don't see how that would make a difference. Again no disrespect to those who know what they are saying; I'm here for educational purposes not bashing. so don't go asking why I would want to stick shit up my ass. I find that offensive. If you don't want to stick shit up your ass don't, but don't hinder our lil system of open inquiry and open access to knowledge,,,bigjosh

hybrid
09-14-2002, 07:21 PM
well my small medical knowledge being a paramedic i will tell u that route WILL increase chance of prostate cancer not by a whole lot but it will....taking it rectally will work so ill say again superchicken is WRONG...if u find me asking why ud want to stick shit up ur ass offensive well so be i could care less im on ur side in saying that it does work ihave done it,but id rather inject

bigjosh
09-14-2002, 07:31 PM
yea i'd rather inject too, but i got a shitty brand of prop so I was looking for other alternatives. Its all good bro, i'm not pissed off at anyone, just trying to gather info... And as far as people being wrong, it's all good... I'm sure everyone is only trying to help... everyone here is learning or helping others to the best of their ability and not everyone knows everything all the time....

bigjosh
09-14-2002, 07:32 PM
shitty brand meaning it hurts.... it's still prop just as any other brand is....

hybrid
09-14-2002, 07:35 PM
Originally posted by bigjosh
shitty brand meaning it hurts.... it's still prop just as any other brand is....
get some sesame oil and cut it 50/50u should have no problem

no hard feelings here either,just dont like people misinforming people

bigjosh
09-14-2002, 07:47 PM
thanks bro, hey do you think vegetable oil will work? I had an unoppenned bottle of it and openned it and drew up 1/4cc and mircrowaved it and injected it in my glut this morning to see if it would cause pain.... if it doesn't I'll dilute my prop w/ it and use it... unless someone thinks it will be more prone to causing infection than peanut oil... Any info is greatly appreciated, and thanks to all for the input already given.

hybrid
09-14-2002, 07:52 PM
yea itll work i dont use kits i do it all my self i used to use vegtable oil

superman1975
09-14-2002, 08:41 PM
my question is which is worse--ed or eod injections or sticking something up your ass?? i will do the injections ever time!

superchicken
09-14-2002, 10:05 PM
i thought about it for a sec and and yes maybe it will work, ive never seen any suppositories for AAS, i figured they would have some if it was effective. it makes sense, 17aa orals obsorb that way so i dont see why other wouldnt if you bypass the stomach enzymes so they dont breakdown.

as for hybrid, you obviously have alot of anger towards me, do i know you under a diff handle name on another board? you seem to show great enjoyment telling me im wrong, and i probabaly was. seems you like to flame people, or me at least. a simple correction note was all that was needed, not some childish "im right and your wrong" speal.

but since you seem to be the expert on taking things rectally, can you post any info or studies or list any AAS products which are intended/commonly used rectally?

mcinfo
09-14-2002, 11:10 PM
Shot it into a tennis ball and shove that up your ass.
The absorption would be much slower....LOL

I can't use prop it hurts me too much...its not worth it.

hybrid
09-15-2002, 02:18 PM
Originally posted by superchicken
i thought about it for a sec and and yes maybe it will work, ive never seen any suppositories for AAS, i figured they would have some if it was effective. it makes sense, 17aa orals obsorb that way so i dont see why other wouldnt if you bypass the stomach enzymes so they dont breakdown.

as for hybrid, you obviously have alot of anger towards me, do i know you under a diff handle name on another board? you seem to show great enjoyment telling me im wrong, and i probabaly was. seems you like to flame people, or me at least. a simple correction note was all that was needed, not some childish "im right and your wrong" speal.

but since you seem to be the expert on taking things rectally, can you post any info or studies or list any AAS products which are intended/commonly used rectally?
superchicken,no u dont know me sorry to come across that way not intended,was not trying to flame no one,so im sorry if i came across that way...r we cool?
im no expert on taking thing rectally i just know that ur body will absorb any meds takin that way
Hope we r cool
hybrid

superchicken
09-15-2002, 02:40 PM
all good.

DecaDent*
09-15-2002, 06:44 PM
I couldn't find a single article on anabolic rectal suppositories...I did turn one up on rectal HCG that showed it to be very effective. IMO rectal administration of prop would work,the absorbtion would probably be inhanced if it were more water soluble/.glycerin based and not oil. There are some studies that used alpha cyclodextrin as a carrier in the suppository to enhance transport and uptake. That's the same principle that Pat Arnold uses in his Ergopharm sublinguals.

superchicken
09-15-2002, 07:23 PM
yeah, im sure theres a better carrier than oil and benzyl alcohol to put in your ass lol

MacGyver
09-15-2002, 07:41 PM
I just hope the pain you are getting form injecting the Prop won't show up if you take it rectally....lol

Ecfatcat
09-15-2002, 11:58 PM
I don't know about putting things in my ass.....but I don't think alchool would feel to good

bigjosh
09-16-2002, 11:08 AM
I diluted it w/ vegetable oil and it isn't nearly as bad. I can handle taking it now. Thanks for the input guys. I guys in the least we can say we've learned a lil bit about rectal administration of AS and got a lil humor out of it.... I dunno if that's a good thing though... lol

H8terproof
10-05-2016, 04:38 AM
I'm sure this has been thought of before.. I don't know much about it but I do know it increases a drugs bioavailability and bypasses some of your body's routs of metabolizing stuff going into your system. I'd figure we'd hear more about it if it were an effective means of administration.. I always assumed, that certain drugs are supposed to be taken certain ways and are more effective by that rout according to how they're made.. Body absorbs shit all kinds of ways.. Under the toung, through the skin etc.. I've heard of people using the ROA your speaking of with fuckin dirty irritating harsh drugs.. So I mean.. It is what it is I guess.. I'm surprised this is the first I've heard of takin it that way..


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