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    Default 10 Cutting and Bulking Steroid Cycles



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    There are loads of great cycles of steroids aimed at different standards of bodybuilder or looking at different outcome. I've just picked out ten great ones and given a brief description for each. Please bear in mind that sometimes there are different names for drugs depending on where you are in the world or who makes it.

    Most importantly - do not even consider using steroids unless your diet is ideal for gaining muscle mass, even if you are looking to increase your definition. You should also be training very hard and regular. Make sure your natural gains have slowed down if this is to be your first time. Read the other articles on MuscleTalk, or post questions on the board if you have any queries.

    Gynecomastia (presence of female breast tissue) and other aromatising side effects of some steroids (for example water retention) may be more apparent in certain individuals. If this is a problem take 20mg per day of Nolvadex / Tamoxifen until symptoms disappear, then continue with 10mg per day until the end of the cycle, or Clomid. It is generally thought best not to take Nolvadex unless you have these side effects, though it is good practice to keep some in stock in case it's required.

    Clomid or HCG may be taken post cycle if a few weeks break is expected. This is in order to help kick start your own natural testosterone secretion, to minimise post-cycle side effects and, more importantly, to minimise any muscle loss after a course. There are a number of recommended ways to take Clomid, but an effective method is: 100mg per day for 7 days commencing 7-18 days post cycle depending on what is in the cycle. This is followed by a further 50mg per day for a further 2 weeks.

    Some folk prefer to use HCG, and after heavy stacks both may be suggested. HCG should commence during the last week, with a jab weekly, for 3 jabs of 2500iu each.

    Also I've not mentioned beta-agonists, thyroid hormones or growth hormone in this article. These can be added to any of the stacks as appropriate.

    1. Beginner Cycle #1
    The most frequently asked question in the steroids forum is for a great effective beginners cycle:

    Deca durabolan - 200-400mg per week for 8 weeks
    Sustanon 250 OR Testaviron depot - 500mg per week for 8 weeks

    This is a standard first course recommended by most, even if the individual wishes to lose fat (as diet is the key to fat mobilisation, NOT gear). Whether you opt for Testaviron or Sustanon is personal choice or depends on availability; both are great drugs. 400mg of Deca per week is generally assumed to be the minimum amount for gains, however, many first time users do extremely well on less than this.

    Continue on this for the full 8 weeks, but if you are still growing well, why stop? Review gains every two weeks, and it may be continued for 10, 12 or more weeks.

    Nolvadex should be on hand in case symptoms of aromatisation become apparent. Clomid should be used post cycle commencing at 10-14 days afterwards.

    The testosterone and the Deca can be split down into 2-3 shots per week: 250mg of test (1ml) plus 100mg of Deca (1ml) mixed into the same syringe, and another of 200mg of Deca (2ml).

    2. Beginners Cycle #2 - The Classic Mass Builder
    This is a variation on the above:

    Deca durabolan - 400mg per week for 8 weeks
    Sustanon 250 OR Testaviron depot - 500mg per week for 8 weeks
    Dianabol - 30mg per day, six days per week for 6 weeks

    This stack should produce good results for the steroid user looking for mass. Here the Deca should be 400mg for optimum effects, and the Dianabol at the onset helps kick start the cycle while you are waiting for the longer acting Deca and test to take effect.

    Nolvadex should be on hand in case symptoms of aromatisation become apparent. Clomid should be used post cycle commencing at 10-14 days afterwards. You may hold a lot of water from this brought about by the Dianabol and the testosterone but this can be reduced by the use of Nolvadex / Tamoxifen or Arimidex.

    The dosage of Dianabol may be divided out through out the day and taken every 3-4 hrs as it has such a short half-life. Though most people take half in the morning and half in the evening. Take them with / after a protein-based meal.

    The testosterone and the Deca can be split down into 3 shots per week: 250mg of test (1ml) plus 100mg of Deca (1ml) mixed into the same syringe, and another of 200mg of Deca (2ml).

    3. Nick's Favourite - well, one of many!
    One of my many favourites, again a variation on the above, just with more dosage. This one is a great mass builder and for the more advanced bodybuilder:

    Testaviron depot - 750mg per week for 8 weeks
    Deca durabolan - 500mg per week for 8 weeks
    Dianabol (Naposims) - 30mg per day, Monday to Friday weeks 2-7

    This is a big stack, but not huge, but bloody great !!! I always seem to grow well on Testaviron.

    The above instructions apply, i.e. Nolvadex, Clomid, etc. Clomid should begin 7 days post cycle.

    4. A Biggy from Trident
    Trident claims this is his favourite cycle which he has done a few times:

    Weeks 1 - 4
    Sustanon 250 - 1,000mg per week
    Testaviron depot - 1,000mg per week
    Anadrol50 / Anapolan 50 - 100mg per day


    Weeks 5 - 8
    Sustanon 250 - 500mg per week
    Testaviron depot - 1,500mg per week
    Dianabol / Anabol - 50mg per day
    Deca durabolan - 400mg per week


    Weeks 9 - 12
    Sustanon 250 - 500mg per week
    Testaviron depot - 250mg per week
    Deca durabolan - 400mg per week


    Nolvadex 10mg per day all through
    Proviron - 50mg per day weeks 2 to 6.
    Commence Clomid week 10 - 50mgs per day for 14 days
    HCG - 2 shots per week of 2500iu with the Clomid


    This is a big cycle, and very androgenic. Like me, Trident swears by Testaviron. Side effects may be high, hence the use of Nolvadex throughout, and the use of Clomid commencing 14 days afterwards, and HCG before the end of the cycle. The use of HCG gets your own testosterone levels up before any fall in androgens. There is a degree of tapering in this cycle due to its high testosterone amounts.

    5. Superman's Super Stack
    This is another great lean mass builder, from a prominent member:

    Finajet / Trenbolone - 75mg per day
    Winstrol - 50mg per day
    Testosterone propionate / Viromone - 100mg every other day


    A six-week course and the usual precautions apply.

    6. Phantomdh's 'Sus-deca-dbol-end-with-winny' Stack
    Phantomdh's favorite cycle is the 'Sus-deca-dbol-end-with-winny' cycle:

    Sustanon 250 - 500mg per week, weeks 1-10
    Deca durabolan - 400mg per week, weeks 1-10
    Dianabol - 35mg per day, weeks 1-4
    Winstrol 30mg/ed, weeks 5-10


    This is another great mass builder. The usual precautions apply.

    7. A Testosterone-Free Lean Mass Builder
    This is one if you want to avoid testosterone-based steroids. It's too often assumed that just because 'mild' steroids like Primabolan are not very androgenic, then they're not very good mass builders. Remember, all steroids are anabolic, and Primabolan as part of a stack is an excellent adjunct:

    Primabolan depot - 300mg per week for 8 weeks
    Deca durabolan - 400mg per week for 8 weeks
    Winstrol - 150mg per week, weeks 2-7
    This is not a huge stack, but is great for building quality, lean size (coupled with a sensible diet). We have a number of non-bodybuilding members of MuscleTalk, e.g. athletes, footballers, etc, and this may be a great cycle for them to try.

    8. Knorkop's Frontloader
    This is a great cycle from Knorkop, used as an example of frontloading Equipoise and Deca:

    Week 1 - Frontloading
    Equipoise / Bolderbol-H - 800mg per week
    Deca durabolan - 800mg per week
    Testosterone propionate / Viromone - 100 mg every other day


    Week 2
    Equipoise / Bolderbol-H - 400mg per week
    Deca durabolan - 400mg per week
    Testosterone propionate / Viromone - 100 mg every other day


    Week 3 - 4
    Equipoise / Bolderbol-H - 400mg per week
    Deca durabolan - 400mg per week
    Winstrol - 50mg every other day


    Week 5 - 8
    Equipoise / Bolderbol-H - 400mg per week
    Deca durabolan - 400mg per week
    Winstrol - 50mg every other day


    Week 9 and 10:
    Equipoise / Bolderbol-H - 400mg per week
    Deca durabolan - 400mg per week
    Testosterone propionate / Viromone: 100mg every other day


    This is a great lean mass builder again, showing how frontloading is done. The downside is a lot of jabs, due to Equipoise being just 50mg per 1ml. The usual precautions apply, and use HCG and Clomid post cycle at 7 days.

    9. Wrongun's Mind Blower:
    This 'Mind Blowing Stack' was posted by Wrongun. It is a heavy androgenic cycle, and only for use by the experienced gear-user.

    Testaviron depot - 1,000mg per week, weeks 1-10
    Equipoise - 800mg per week, weeks 1-10
    Dianabol - 50-75mg per day, weeks 1-5/6
    Testosterone suspension - 100mg per day, weeks 1-4/5
    Finajet/Trenbolone - 150mg per day, last 4-6 weeks
    Winstrol at the last - 100mg per day, last 4-6 weeks

    This is not for the faint hearted, and certainly for advanced bodybuilders only. Equipoise is used rather than Deca so as not to overdo progesterone aromatisation. This involves a lot of injections, so try to get Ttokkyo Equipoise, as this is 200mg per 1ml, as opposed to Ganabol or Bolderbol H, which is 50mg per 1ml.

    Side effects will be high on this so take precautions. I would recommend Nolvadex use throughout at 10mg per day, or Arimidex 1mg every other day. Clomid and HCG post cycle are a must - commence the HCG in the last week of the cycle, but Clomid 14 days afterwards

    10. Another Fave!
    Nice and simple, but very effective:

    Anadrol 50 / Anapolan 50 - 100mg per day, 6 days per week
    Deca durabolan - 400mg per week

    The usual precautions are a must here, with Clomid commencing 7 days post cycle.
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    found an oldy, to the top

    Best Cycle of all time for ANYONE is:

    IGF-1 lr3 from www.musclechemadvancedsupps.com

    Testosterone propionate

    Trenbolone Acetate

    Winstrol

    Thats the best cycle i have ever done, and still run to this day!
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    Bumping an oldy but a goody


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    found google search, bump


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    this cycle will make ya grow i just don't like the cycle length and why wouldn't ya use tren in the start of cycle with ur testosterone suspension, I know i would! anyways were all different and react different, but I'm just throwing my 2 cents out there!

    Testaviron depot - 1,000mg per week, weeks 1-10
    Equipoise - 800mg per week, weeks 1-10
    Dianabol - 50-75mg per day, weeks 1-5/6
    Testosterone suspension - 100mg per day, weeks 1-4/5
    Finajet/Trenbolone - 150mg per day, last 4-6 weeks
    Winstrol at the last - 100mg per day, last 4-6 weeks


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    Best Cycle of all time for ANYONE is:

    IGF-1 lr3 from Advanced Supplements

    Testosterone propionate

    Trenbolone Acetate

    Winstrol

    Thats the best cycle i have ever done, and still run to this day!


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    worth a bump


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    Default the best cycle !!

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    worth a bump
    can i take igf-1 ,tren , and wistrol without the testostrone ?
    and why ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by moe070707 View Post
    can i take igf-1 ,tren , and wistrol without the testostrone ?
    and why ?
    You can of course but i know i wouldn't do that. reason is the tren kills my sex drive so i need the testosterone to cancel that out


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    Yes, you can is the short answer, but in my opinion Test should be in every cycle somewhere, I think more so when running tren. Since Testosterone is your bodies base hormone and has much more to contribute to your cycle than just building muscle, like mood, well being and overall health. Even if a low dose of test,
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    Quote Originally Posted by MonkeyWrench View Post
    Yes, you can is the short answer, but in my opinion Test should be in every cycle somewhere, I think more so when running tren. Since Testosterone is your bodies base hormone and has much more to contribute to your cycle than just building muscle, like mood, well being and overall health. Even if a low dose of test,
    couldn't have said it better myself!


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