Deca+finasteride = more andro sides

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Nandrolone finasteride combination increases androgenic side effects, not more effective

Chemical athletes who want to increase the effectiveness of nandrolone decanoate by adding finasteride [structural formula shown below] will be disappointed. A Population Council study shows that the combination raises the androgenic side effects of nandrolone but won’t give you a single gram more muscle mass.

The Council researchers were particularly interested in a nandrolone analogue that was invented in the sixties: the anabolic steroid 7alpha-methylnandrolone [structural formula shown below]. The methyl group of this steroid is not on the C17alpha [as it is in dianabol] but on the C7alpha. Its full name is 7alpha-methyl-19-nor-testosterone, or MENT for short.

A lot of research was done in the late nineties on the male contraceptive properties of MENT. The reason for this was that low doses of MENT inhibit the production of FSH and LH. The study we refer to here was part of the MENT project. It was a piece of fundamental research in which the scientists compared MENT with testosterone, nandrolone and methyl testosterone.


In rats, the ratio between the undesirable androgenic and desirable anabolic properties of MENT was better than that ratio in testosterone but less good than the ratio in nandrolone.





Now part of the androgenic effect of testosterone is actually due to its metabolites. The 5alpha-reductase enzyme converts testosterone into the androgenic dihydrotestosterone (DHT). And the same enzyme converts nandrolone into the not very active dihydronandrolone (DHN). So how does that work with MENT? To find out the researchers repeated their experiments but added finasteride, a steroid that sabotages 5alpha-reductase.

The androgenic effects of testosterone and MENT were unaffected by the blocker, but the anabolic effect of nandrolone was one and a half times greater, the researchers discovered.



The enzyme blocker had no positive effects on muscle mass, however. Not with testosterone, not with MENT, not with nandrolone.



Nandrolone and finasteride? Bad idea.

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not sure how i ever missed this one, but good solid info from what i can tell
 
I have Llewellyn's Anabolics 2009. There is incorrect info on "ment" by the Op. Mainly the androgenic and anabolic ratio of ment compared to testosterone. Test. cyp. has an anabolic rating of 100, an androgenic rating of 100. Ment has an androgenic rating of 650 and an anabolic rating of 2300. This means ment is 6 times more androgenic than testosterone.

This is a long profile on ment but some key points are that ment was going to be developed by Schering as a replacement for testosterone for HRT. The main reason being that ment has less influence on the prostate gland than testosterone. Many studies were done and all showed positive results. Schering was going to market this drug, but only as an implant, not injectible. Llewellyn says this makes the drug useless to bodybuilders. As of 2009, when this book was written, Schering still had not marketed the drug. In 2010, Schering was bought out by Merck and Merck sold off Schering's hormone products to Bayer. Which were primobolin and testoviron. Merck had no interest in ment.
So if ment is around it would be made by a UGL, probably with powder made in China. I have never seen ment for sale anywhere.
 
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