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    Clenbuterol: All you need to know
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    What is Clenbuterol?
    Clenbuterol is a beta-2 agonist and is used in many countries as a broncodilator
    for the treatment of asthma. Because of it's long half life, clenbuterol is not
    FDA approved for medical use. It is a central nervous system stimulant and acts like adrenaline. It shares many of the same side effects as other CNS stimulants like ephedrine. Contrary to popular belief, Clenbuterol has a half life of 35 hours and not 48 hours.

    Dosing and Cycling


    Clenbuterol comes in 20mcg tablets, although it is also available in syrup, pump and injectable form. It's also available as a powder in some areas. Doses are very dependent on how well the user responds to the side effects, but somewhere in the range of 4-8 tablets per day for men and 2-4 tablets a day for women is most common. Clenbuterol loses its thermogenic effects after around 8 weeks when body temperature drops back to normal. Its anabolic/anti-catabolic properties fade away at around the 18 day mark. Taking the long half life into consideration, the most effective way of cycling clen is 2 weeks on/ 2 weeks off for no more than 12 weeks. Ephedrine or Yohimbine can be used in the off weeks.

    Clenbuterol vs Ephedrine vs DNP


    Ephedrine will raise metabolic levels by about 2-3 percent and 200mg of DNP raises metabolic levels by about 30 percent. Clenbuterol raises metabolic levels about 10 percent and it can raise body temperature several degrees.

    DNP is by far the most effective fat burner but many people will never use it because of the risks associated with it. It also offers no anti-catabolic
    benefit. Although it does have anti-catabolic effect, ephedrine's short
    half-life prevents it from being all that effective.

    As far as side effects, Clenbuterol's are certainly milder than DNP's, and some would even say milder than an ECA stack. There is no ECA-style crash on Clenbuterol and many users find it easier on the prostate and sex drive. This may in part be due to the fact that Clen is generally used for only 2 weeks at a time.

    Side effects

    Nausea
    Nervousness
    Dizziness
    Drowsiness
    Dry Mouth
    Facial Flushing
    Headache
    Heartburn
    Increased Blood Pressure
    Increased Sweating
    Insomnia
    Lightheadedness
    Muscle Cramps
    Tremors
    Vomiting
    Chest Pain

    The Most Significant Side Effects Are Muscle Cramps, Nervousness, Headaches, And Increased Blood Pressure.

    Muscle cramps can be avoided by drinking 1.5-2 gallons of water and consuming bananas and oranges or supplementing with potassium tablets at 200-400mg a day taken before bed on an empty stomach. Taurine at 3-5grams is a necessity in minimizing cramps.

    Headaches can easily be avoided with Tylenol Extra Strength taking at the first signs of a headache.

    Common Uses


    Post-Cycle Therapy: Clen is used post cycle to aid in recovery. It allows the user to continue eating large amounts of food, without worrying about adding body fat. It also helps the user maintain more of his strength as well as his intensity in the gym. Diet: Roughly the same as on cycle.

    Fat loss: The most popular use for Clen, it also increases muscle hardness,
    vascularity, strength and size on a caloric deficit. For the most significant
    fat loss, Clen can be stacked with T3. Diet: A high protein(1.5g per lb of
    bodyweight), moderate carb(0.5g to 1g per lb of bodyweight), low fat diet(0.25g per lb of bodyweight) seems to work best with Clen.

    Alternative to Steroids: Clenbuterol has mild steroid-like properties and can be used by non-AS using bodybuilder to increase LBM as well as strength and muscle hardness. Diet: A moderate carb, high protein, moderate fat diet work well.

    Stimulant/Performance Enhancement: It can be used as a stimulant, but an ECA stack may be a better choice because of it's much shorter half-life. Diet: To take full advantage of the stimulatory effects of Clen, carbohydrates must be included in the diet. Ketogenic diets do not work well in this case.

    Precautions: Is Clen for you?

    The same precautions that apply to Ephedrine must be applied to Clen, although some people find ECA stacks are harsher than Clen. It should not be stacked with other CNS stimulants such as Ephedrine and Yohimbine. These combinations are unnecessary and potentially dangerous. Caffeine can be used in moderation before a workout for an extra quick. burst of energy.

    A word on Ketotifen

    Ketotifen is safe antihistamine used extensively some European countries to
    treat asthma and allergies. It can up regulate beta-2-receptors that Clen down regulates. Basically, it allows users to extend their use of Clen for 6-8 weeks at a time. 2-3mg a day is ideal, 10mg as found in "superclen" can make users extremely drowsy. It also increases the effectiveness of Clen so doses must be adjusted accordingly. The downfall of this drug is its ability to induce extreme hunger is some people, which is not a desirable state to be in when dieting.

    Cycling Clenbuterol

    Most users that report bad side effects and discontinue use are those who use high doses right at the start of the cycle. The worst side effects occur within the first 3-4 days of use.

    A first time user should not exceed 40mcg the first day. Increase by one tab until the side effects are not tolerable

    Example of a first cycle:

    Day1: 20mcg
    Day2: 40mcg
    Day3: 60mcg
    Day4: 80mcg
    Day5: 80mcg(Note: Increase the dose only when the side effects are tolerable)
    Day6-Day12: 100mcg
    Day13: 80 mcg (Tapering is not necessary, but it helps some users get back to normal gradually)
    Day14: 60 mcgs
    Day15: off
    Day16: off
    Day 17: ECA/ NYC stack

    Example of a second cycle:

    Day1: 60mcg
    Day2: 80mcg
    Day3: 80mcg
    Day4: 100mcg
    Day5: 100mcg
    Day6-Day12: 120mcg
    Day13: 100 mcg
    Day14: 80 mcgs
    Day15: off
    Day16: off
    Day 17: ECA/ NYC stack

    What else do I need to know?

    Taurine MUST be used with Clen at 3-5g daily. Clenbuterol depletes taurine
    levels in the liver which stops the conversion of T4 to T3 in the liver.
    Taurine allows the user to avoid the dreaded rebound effect and painful muscle cramps. It's a must with Clen.

    Clenbuterol should not be taken too close to a workout. It can interfere with your breathing and completely ruin your workout.
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    aside from the shakes my exgirlfriend didn't notice any side effects from clen...
    she hated the ECA stack because she couldn't sleep and would just walk around the house in the middle of the night...also, said that she "feel" like bugs were crawling in her hair all of the time
    with the clen though she could sleep and would see that her basal temp raised 2 degree

    every degree that your basal temp raises your metabolism raises 13%
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorian123
    aside from the shakes my exgirlfriend didn't notice any side effects from clen...
    she hated the ECA stack because she couldn't sleep and would just walk around the house in the middle of the night...also, said that she "feel" like bugs were crawling in her hair all of the time
    with the clen though she could sleep and would see that her basal temp raised 2 degree

    every degree that your basal temp raises your metabolism raises 13%
    Oh I sleep like a baby on clen. But it does nothing else from me.
    13% increase in metabolism per degree is outrageous. Where did you get that information?

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    that's your basal body temp 1st thing in the morning, the information came from IART data...it was one of Aurthor Jones experiments...
    www.IART.com
     

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    I have asked this question before but I don't feel certain of the answers I received. Is clen a vasodilator or a vasoconstrictor?

    Because it is a stimulant, one would think that it would constrict the blood vessels, but I have also read that anything altering the beta 2 receptors would dilate blood vessels. This has had me confused for quite some time. Anybody know?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorian123
    that's your basal body temp 1st thing in the morning, the information came from IART data...it was one of Aurthor Jones experiments...
    www.IART.com
    very interesting to say the least. Thanks for posting the link Dorian. Under what section do i look?


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    oh wait my bad the link is www.I-A-R-T.com
    you should just be able to do a search for cardio and it will give you a few different articles
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorian123
    oh wait my bad the link is www.I-A-R-T.com
    you should just be able to do a search for cardio and it will give you a few different articles

    I didn't know where to look at first.
    Very cool. Thanks Buddy


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    Quote Originally Posted by flexarmstrong
    I have asked this question before but I don't feel certain of the answers I received. Is clen a vasodilator or a vasoconstrictor?

    Because it is a stimulant, one would think that it would constrict the blood vessels, but I have also read that anything altering the beta 2 receptors would dilate blood vessels. This has had me confused for quite some time. Anybody know?
    hmmm. I will ask a friend about this. Thought provoking.


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    alot of good info hear !!!
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    check out the thread that I just made on HIT CARDIO
     

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    Bud I wrote a HIT cardio thread on here a Lonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng time ago.
     

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    oh my bad how does it compare to mine???
     

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    Hell I wrote mine years ago so I dont know if they even kept it since its so old. I was a proponent of HIT before the mainstream even gave it that name. I have been preaching it for over 8 years now.
     

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    good to see we have something in common, since you made the post years ago and it's gone there have been a lot of people that have probably joined this site since and maybe they have never heard of HIT training
     

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    i want to try that out sometime, the hit cardio !
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    Where can I get some of this?

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    no no no... thats not aloud ! you could move to europe.
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    Has anyone heard of Nitrophen & Dermalean? Is it any better than Clen?

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    Nice thread! Is actually how I found this site! FYI, Clen is a vasodilator technically but often causes some constriction as well - unless alpha-1-receptors are blocked/antagonized.
    It is a sympathomimetic, which means the increase in CNS capacity and with the calcium uptake being enhanced, it will release more adrenaline and dopamine. Second Messengers.

    So therefore Clen can cause both an increase and / or a decrease in blood pressure.
    Depends on genetics, general health etc
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    Quote Originally Posted by Area 1255 View Post
    Nice thread! Is actually how I found this site! FYI, Clen is a vasodilator technically but often causes some constriction as well - unless alpha-1-receptors are blocked/antagonized.
    It is a sympathomimetic, which means the increase in CNS capacity and with the calcium uptake being enhanced, it will release more adrenaline and dopamine. Second Messengers.

    So therefore Clen can cause both an increase and / or a decrease in blood pressure.
    Depends on genetics, general health etc

    yes its how a shit load of folks find us, were listed high on google for clenbuterol searches, good to have ya with us brutha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Presser View Post
    yes its how a shit load of folks find us, were listed high on google for clenbuterol searches, good to have ya with us brutha
    Glad to be a part here, hopefully spew some information that will really help lay out the missing pieces. I aim to be thorough whenever I respond.
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    clenbuterol cycle dosages and protocol

    Ketotifen description
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    Any real world knowledge on using Keto? I have heard 1 mg/day for a week after 2 weeks of clen use, is this correct?
     

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    Never used ketotifen but have used OTC benadryl worked awsome was up too 100mcg a day first time took 2 benadryl next morning took my 100 mcg of clen WOW bad idea I was shaking like a crackhead in a police station all day thought my heart was gonna jump out my chest .

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    Quote Originally Posted by yellow snow View Post
    Any real world knowledge on using Keto? I have heard 1 mg/day for a week after 2 weeks of clen use, is this correct?
    Thats what I did and It worked like a charm

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    Never used ketotifen but have used OTC benadryl worked awsome was up too 100mcg a day first time took 2 benadryl next morning took my 100 mcg of clen WOW bad idea I was shaking like a crackhead in a police station all day thought my heart was gonna jump out my chest .

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    Where can I get Clen?
     

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    Clenbuterol: All you need to know

    Clenbuterol: All you need to know

    Clenbuterol: All you need to know

    Clenbuterol: All you need to know


    Clenbuterol: All you need to know

    Clenbuterol: All you need to know

    Clenbuterol: All you need to know
    Quote Originally Posted by gymjunkie38 View Post
    Never used ketotifen but have used OTC benadryl worked awsome was up too 100mcg a day first time took 2 benadryl next morning took my 100 mcg of clen WOW bad idea I was shaking like a crackhead in a police station all day thought my heart was gonna jump out my chest .

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    @gymjunkie38 I did the same thing the first time I used benadryl to clean my receptors when I was using Aqua-Burn - HERE
    ​I looked like I stole the debit card I was using at the atm, LOL.



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