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EMW14

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Ok, so Trump is in office 2 days and the bitching not only hasn't ended but has been ramped up several notches. I have a few issues I want to bitch about myself:

The press reports that Barry Obama leaves office with an approval rating of over 60%. I strongly suspect that this is more made up news. If this were really true, I don't think Trump would have won. Hillary would have. So I don't know what the real figures are in terms of approval ratings for Barry and Trump. But I don't believe either of the numbers being reported. It's fucking impossible.

The press - or at least the newspapers I read (2 of them, one more liberal than the other) - are still referring to Hillary as "presidential candidate Hillay Clinton". It is time for them to start referring to her as FORMER presidential candidat Hillary Clinton.

Again, the press, they piss me off royally, keeps emphasizing the fact that Trump got as many as 3,000,000 fewer popular votes but still won over 300 electoral votes. It DOESN'T MATTER that he got fewer popular votes! The system was designed to prevent an out of control population from electing an out of control candidate. Something it actually failed to do in 2008 and again in 2012. Thank GOD the system worked as designed this time!

This next one applies not just to the media, but also to many in the general population as well as many elected officials, who damned well should know better: THE AMERICAN SYSTEM OF GOVERNMENT IS NOT A DEMOCRACY!!! It has never been a democracy. It is a REPRESENTATIVE REPUBLIC!! This is part of the reason for the electoral college: to give a voice to the lesser populated states so that THOSE people have a voice as well. The Founding Fathers must have known that CA and NY would eventually become enormous population centers full of insane liberals incapable of making rational decisions!

What the fuck are all these women marchers upset about anyhow??? Why didn't they take to the streets when Slick Willy was in hot water over Monica??? Wasn't that womanizing, disrespectful to women, shameful and all of that??? This is just selective emotions. Bullshit, in other words.

All this bullshit about illegal immigrants being "hate": I saw something about "respect for 'all' people" or equal treatment or some bullshit. These fucking morons need toget it through their thick skulls that this is America. AMERICANS are guaranteed certain inalienable rights under the US Constitution. Nobody else. Not Mexicans, Guatemalans, Peruvians, Uruguayans - AMERICANS. If anyone sneaks into this country, then they are here ILLEGALLY. If they stay here, live here, then they are ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. NOT "Undocumented" immigrants. There's no such thing as an "undocumented immigrant". Those are ILLEGAL immigrants. The left made up that term for some fucked up reason. I think because it hurt the feelings of the illegal immigrants. Deporting those mother fuckers is mot racist. It is the duty of our government to deport them.

Notice, also, that European or Asian immigrants don't sneak across the border en masse; they go through the onerous process of immigrating legally. I used to work with a guy from Germany who moved here to marry his American girlfriend. He had a job lined up BEFORE he moved here and it STILL took him 5 months after he got here to be allowed to work! But he went through the process. He didn't sneak his brother or sister or cousin in. He didn't ask for special treatment. He did what he had to do. Why the FUCK are there different standards for Europeans, etc than for South Americans or Mexicans???

If someon broke into your vacation home while you were away, and you found that they'd been living there for 6 months, and oh, by the way the dude's girlfriend was 6 months pregnant when they broke in your house and took up residence, using your supplies, sleeping in your bed, would you "forgive them" and decide they "deserve" to be there??? Give me a fucking break!

I read Trump's plan for his 1st 100 days in the paper yesterday, and I LOVE IT. The only thing question is the charter school/school choice position he takes. That, I disagree with. Everything else, I LOVE. Exactly what America needs!

So, Liberals, your horse lost the race. It's not because you failed to deliver your message. It's because NOBODY LIKES YOUR MESSAGE!!! Trump is the president. We put up with your socialist bastard for 8 years while he and the democrats systematically workedto dismantle the Constitution of the United States. Now, we have a guy whosays he's going to try to restore it. Get behind him. We're all Americans, and this time, you didn't get your way. Grow the fuck up.

Not only that, but Trump has taken the position of bringing back manufacturing. The left should LOVE this! These are many ofthe union jobs that have gone to China as a result of Slick Willy admitting China to the WTO! Stop your bitching, if you can't support him, at least shutthe fuck up and see what happens!

Ok, that's it for mow. I'm sure I left something out that's been on my mind, but that's all I got for now...
 
Ok, so Trump is in office 2 days and the bitching not only hasn't ended but has been ramped up several notches. I have a few issues I want to bitch about myself:

The press reports that Barry Obama leaves office with an approval rating of over 60%. I strongly suspect that this is more made up news. If this were really true, I don't think Trump would have won. Hillary would have. So I don't know what the real figures are in terms of approval ratings for Barry and Trump. But I don't believe either of the numbers being reported. It's fucking impossible.

The press - or at least the newspapers I read (2 of them, one more liberal than the other) - are still referring to Hillary as "presidential candidate Hillay Clinton". It is time for them to start referring to her as FORMER presidential candidat Hillary Clinton.

Again, the press, they piss me off royally, keeps emphasizing the fact that Trump got as many as 3,000,000 fewer popular votes but still won over 300 electoral votes. It DOESN'T MATTER that he got fewer popular votes! The system was designed to prevent an out of control population from electing an out of control candidate. Something it actually failed to do in 2008 and again in 2012. Thank GOD the system worked as designed this time!

This next one applies not just to the media, but also to many in the general population as well as many elected officials, who damned well should know better: THE AMERICAN SYSTEM OF GOVERNMENT IS NOT A DEMOCRACY!!! It has never been a democracy. It is a REPRESENTATIVE REPUBLIC!! This is part of the reason for the electoral college: to give a voice to the lesser populated states so that THOSE people have a voice as well. The Founding Fathers must have known that CA and NY would eventually become enormous population centers full of insane liberals incapable of making rational decisions!

What the fuck are all these women marchers upset about anyhow??? Why didn't they take to the streets when Slick Willy was in hot water over Monica??? Wasn't that womanizing, disrespectful to women, shameful and all of that??? This is just selective emotions. Bullshit, in other words.

All this bullshit about illegal immigrants being "hate": I saw something about "respect for 'all' people" or equal treatment or some bullshit. These fucking morons need toget it through their thick skulls that this is America. AMERICANS are guaranteed certain inalienable rights under the US Constitution. Nobody else. Not Mexicans, Guatemalans, Peruvians, Uruguayans - AMERICANS. If anyone sneaks into this country, then they are here ILLEGALLY. If they stay here, live here, then they are ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. NOT "Undocumented" immigrants. There's no such thing as an "undocumented immigrant". Those are ILLEGAL immigrants. The left made up that term for some fucked up reason. I think because it hurt the feelings of the illegal immigrants. Deporting those mother fuckers is mot racist. It is the duty of our government to deport them.

Notice, also, that European or Asian immigrants don't sneak across the border en masse; they go through the onerous process of immigrating legally. I used to work with a guy from Germany who moved here to marry his American girlfriend. He had a job lined up BEFORE he moved here and it STILL took him 5 months after he got here to be allowed to work! But he went through the process. He didn't sneak his brother or sister or cousin in. He didn't ask for special treatment. He did what he had to do. Why the FUCK are there different standards for Europeans, etc than for South Americans or Mexicans???

If someon broke into your vacation home while you were away, and you found that they'd been living there for 6 months, and oh, by the way the dude's girlfriend was 6 months pregnant when they broke in your house and took up residence, using your supplies, sleeping in your bed, would you "forgive them" and decide they "deserve" to be there??? Give me a fucking break!

I read Trump's plan for his 1st 100 days in the paper yesterday, and I LOVE IT. The only thing question is the charter school/school choice position he takes. That, I disagree with. Everything else, I LOVE. Exactly what America needs!

So, Liberals, your horse lost the race. It's not because you failed to deliver your message. It's because NOBODY LIKES YOUR MESSAGE!!! Trump is the president. We put up with your socialist bastard for 8 years while he and the democrats systematically workedto dismantle the Constitution of the United States. Now, we have a guy whosays he's going to try to restore it. Get behind him. We're all Americans, and this time, you didn't get your way. Grow the fuck up.

Not only that, but Trump has taken the position of bringing back manufacturing. The left should LOVE this! These are many ofthe union jobs that have gone to China as a result of Slick Willy admitting China to the WTO! Stop your bitching, if you can't support him, at least shutthe fuck up and see what happens!

Ok, that's it for mow. I'm sure I left something out that's been on my mind, but that's all I got for now...
I am standing up in my dining room clapping my friend well said. What trump needs to do is enforce term limits. That was the basis of what our government was suppose to be. Being an elected official was suppose to be a pain in your ass not a job that you wanted to retire from after 20 years of sucking the lobbyist dicks. I get so freakin mad I can't even think straight. I'm sick of the crying hell I'm even sick of complaining. Very very frustrating

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I am standing up in my dining room clapping my friend well said. What trump needs to do is enforce term limits. That was the basis of what our government was suppose to be. Being an elected official was suppose to be a pain in your ass not a job that you wanted to retire from after 20 years of sucking the lobbyist dicks. I get so freakin mad I can't even think straight. I'm sick of the crying hell I'm even sick of complaining. Very very frustrating

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Term limits for all elected officials (federal) are in the 1st 100 days plan!
 
Globalization is the reason why work went to China and Globalization started happening I believe in the 1600's...when humans became more mobile with ships going to foreign lands. Globalization is a big catalyst for America becoming a colony.
According to very smart people that do this shit for a living Globalization is going to continue for about another 500 years... it basically stops when the whole world is earning the same wages for the same work.
Right now what you want 20 bucks an hr to do someone in China does it for 20 a week.

So Americans buy product from china for cheap cause labor is cheap keeps the price down. Make the same product in America and unless you wanna pay the worker peanuts the price you pay will go up higher than the Chinese product.

And forget about exporting said product cause no one is going to buy it when it cost 10x as much as a Chinese product.

To say that Trump can single handedly stop a global phenomenon that has been going on since the 1600s is more than a stretch.
I'm sure he will be able to keep some jobs and maybe increase some labor/production in some already established industries such as automotive or medical supply but he would have to have the hand of God himself to change the natural flow of things

The problem rests in how our societies are set up to begin with. This is literally cause and effect.
A person trades there skill labor and time for money. If a person can be compelled to work for less in Asia the the company sets up shop to keep costs down.

This was only one segment of your post but it's so complicated that to respond it takes up all this post. This goes for all your other points too. Everything you said is important to discuss and debate. As citizens of this democracy (yes it is a democracy. I know what you are saying about being a republic but a republic like ours still falls under being a democracy) it is our duty to speak our minds and have open debate. If that stops then we will slowly die as a democracy and become a dead pseudo democracy. Use it or lose it.

That being said I have no problem with organized public protest. Why does it have to offend you because you disagree.? I have no clue what it feels like to be a woman in this country and I have nothing to say. If women are angry and hate the guy and they wanna protest him well then go ahead.
Now if they all got locked up and beat up like the Chinese govt did to its own people in Tienimen Square back in the early 90s then I would have a big problem . Cause that's what communists do. They kill u for speaking up.

So as long as women or any other group wanna organize and protest in this country I know we are still living in a free country.

Oh and the main stream press is compete garbage. Did you ever hear the hearing where Cia officials were asked about certain "programs" they were running and the official admitted that CIA agents were at one point sitting in the newsrooms of the major media hubs across the country. They said it was take sure damaging news wasn't reported...like state secrets and shit.
But if your interested in real Media you can find some pretty good ones that are considered "smaller " fish.
You can tell they are good cause they don't kiss any ones ass and seem to be really critical of just about everything the govt does.

But the media in general is a major arm of democracy they ask the questions.
The media is not working well for us anymore and that a problem we should address. That's something we as an entire society can join together over. Forget about Trump or Obama or the next guy. Forget about liberal or conservative...they got us divided and bickering over complete bullshit.
But if everyone joined to get a truly free Press back then we would be headed in the right direction.

Lastly I'm pretty sure the Constitution is still entact exactly as it was originally written. Obama didn't dismantle it. In fact you can't erase any part of the constitution you can only ammend it. And in his 8 yrs he didn't even try to ammend it and there was no new ammendment written.

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Ok, you said a lot.

Domocracy: you're correct that we have a democraticallu based republic. Loosely - very loosely - speaking, a democracy. But specifically, it is a Representative Republic. A true democracy means every issue is taken to the public for a vote directly, and every issue is decided by simple majority. That's not what we have. We have a confederation of states, independently governed - and here is where your voice is heard loudely, because there are leas of you living in your state than in the entire nation - which have banded together under the umbrella of a federal government so that dealing with foriegn nations (and threats) ; and interstate commerce could be handled by a - here's that word again - REPRESENTATIVE of the group. This representative would be elected BY THE STATES. Representative republic.

Obama's stated goal was to reform America in the image of socialist Europe. No, he didn't use those words. But that's exactly what he set out to do. So, I suppose I should admit to being somewhat melodramatic by stating that he tried to dismantle the Constitution. But not by much. In fact, after one of the school shootings, he made his intention very clear to trample the 2nd Amendment. In that speech, he (incorrectly) proclaimed that America wants that. America does NOT want their right to bear arms removed or further restricted. Some liberals want that. Obama wants that. It is already extremely onerous to get "permission" to own a firearm in many places in this country. That is just one example of what I mean by dismantling the Constitution.

I am not angry that these groups of unhappy people are protesting. I am angry that they disrespect the Will of the People. Yhey don't respect the process. And I'm angry that they are deliberately trying to undermine the duly elected, fair and square, according to the Law of the Land, President of the United States.

China and jobs: You're wrong. Manufacturing had been going to Taiwan; Japan; South Korea; the former Soviet Bloc countries following the collapse of the Soviet Union. But China, the last major communist power in the world, was excluded because the United States refused to admit a country with a human rights and environmental record as awful as the Chinese's is, to the World Trade Organization. Slick Willy, desperate for a "legacy", in an effort to thaw relations between the West and China, successfully lobbied for China's admission to the WTO. That opened the floodgates. Well, that and ever increasing corporate taxes; extremely onerous environmental regulations, which made it literally impossible for heavy industry to operate in the US. It isn't only the cost of labor. That is a factor, yes. But a major factor is what nobody talks about, and that is that our own government drove the manufacturing out of the US with environmental regulation. Nobody talks about that because it is the left who drives this movement; and it is the left which traditionally supports unions; and the mainstream media is controlled by amd leans left. So the leftist media covers for tje leftist government that drove away tje jobs of the very people who support the leftist government so that tje government won't lose its support. Then, it blames the "greedy fatcats" who want the labor for nothing, create an "us against them" mentality, and there you have it. American politics in the present.

Can Trump siglehandedly bring heavy industry back to the US? Of course not. Can he, with the support of a Republican Congress make it attractive for many companies poised to leave or who have just left to stay or come back? Absolutely. Again, part of the 1st 100 days plan. Reduce the corporate tax rate from 35% to 15% - which, BTW, matches the corporate tax rate in much of socialist Europe. And impose a heavy tarriff on goods manufactured in China, a well known currency manipulator and other places that "buy" jobs for their countries with lower tax rates than we have.
 
O, I forgot about the export issue.

BTW, please excuse my typos such as "tje" and "tjere"... I find that autocorrect is so frequently wrong and produces nonsense, and figure the typos are obvious. I correct them when I catch them, but obviously I miss a lot. Typing on my phone: big thumbs, little buttons...

Countries like China - and China specifically - impose major tarriffs on any products we export to them. Such as cars, for example. So that an American car, already more expensive than a Chinese one but vastly superior, that a wealthy Chinese would consider ponying up the extra cash to own, is made so preposterously expensive tjat it becomes out of the question. Solar panels is another excellent example. There used to be numerous manufacturers making solar panels in the US. The stated goal of tje Chineae government was to cometely take over the solar panel manufacturing industry and drive US manufacturing out of buainess. Subsidized by tje Chinese government, Chineae solar lanel manufacturers did just that. This is not just a trade deficit. It's an econimic war. Slick Willy invited it, and Obama nurtured it! And our sissy Republican legislators and president in between put up with it.

It used to be that World War II vets would lament that the Japanese would take over the US without ever firing a shot. The Chinese are doing it. They own a large percentage of our national debt and up until now, novody seems to notice. Because we're getting cheap shit from Walmart.
 
And Globalization has been going on since way before the 1600's. It's why Columbus ran aground on Plymouth Rock: he was looking for a westward route to India for trade. That happened in 1492. Hell, way, way before that, too: Barcelona, Spain is named for Hannibal Barca, the Carthaginian general. Carthage (on the Medeterranian shore of Africa) had a worldwide (the known world) empire when the Romans were just pissant upstarts.
 
U could've said that better. Emw, u write very well, u are very intouch with things!!!

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That was a good rebuttal I can see you know what you are talking about. For one you know your history.
Healthy debate is what it is all about . Without getting angry or offended.
I enjoy this thing.
Much respect

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That was a good rebuttal I can see you know what you are talking about. For one you know your history.
Healthy debate is what it is all about . Without getting angry or offended.
I enjoy this thing.
Much respect

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Thank you, sir. I also appreciate a respectful debate.
 
Something else I just found out:

Friday morning, in an "11th hour" act (one of several), Obama gave $220 million to the Palestinians, allegedly for "humanitarian aid". Again, a little history: the PLO, the Palestinian Liberation Organization, was the original terrorist organization. Their target was Israel. Arafat was their leader. The entire civilized world was against them. Arabs, of course, united in their hate for Israels, supported them from the beginning. Eventually, the PLO was replaced by its current incarnation, "Hamas". I guess this happened some time shortly after Arafat's death. They "elected" a "president", Abbas, and pretend to be a genuine, legitimate political entity. For some reason that I have never understood, Obama has given these people an audience. He has taken their sode, reversing decades of US foriegn policy. He has gone against our only real ally in that region, Israel, and pretty much left them hanging out to dry. For month, now, the Republicans on the appropriations committee have blocked this $220M from going to Hamas. Obama somehow cicumvented the committee and sent the money. Not sure how he accomplished this. But it's an outrage! The outgoing president is the only president in tje history of the United States who has demonstrated himself to be anti American!

This reminds me of another way in which Obama "dismantled" the constitution. No president in hostory has issued as many executive orders as Obama. Doing this circumvents the Congress and thus the Constitution.

An example of another 11th hour act: I disremember her name, but the US Army officer who turned over secret US military secrets to Wikileaks had been sentenced to 30 years in prison for her treason. This act directly put US servicemen and women in harm's way - put their lives in serious danger. Not only that, but this exposed US informants in hostile countries such as Iraq and Afghanistan whose lives were placed in even more serious danger given their situation. This criminal act of treason SHOULD have resulted in a death sentence to begin with, and in years past definitely would have. Instead, this bitch was permitted to keep her miserable life and go free after serving 30 years. I stead, Obama commuted her sentence as he was leaving office, after she had served only 6 years! Yet another anti American act by the outgoing president!

Trump can "undo" some executive orders, and it's pretty common for the incoming president to reverse some of his predecessor's. But given the number of them Obama has made, and the time passed since some of them have been made (Obama has made executive orders a common form of government, usurping power the president is not supposed to have) I don't know how much of the damage he caused to the country can be undone by an incoming president.
 
Too much to respond to but on the executive order issue.
Bush did it. But did it less. Clinton did but did it less.
So they were all wrong.
That's a speacial privilege that each new prez abuses more and more and is why one day we won't have a democracy.

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Too much to respond to but on the executive order issue.
Bush did it. But did it less. Clinton did but did it less.
So they were all wrong.
That's a speacial privilege that each new prez abuses more and more and is why one day we won't have a democracy.

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Totally agree.
 
Don't be upset. Get drunk on liberal tears for the next 4 years. It's such a beautiful thing.

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