LEE GASPARI
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President Trump has done more positives for our country in 3 days than Odumbo did in 8 years.
drtbear1967
Musclechemistry Board Certified Member
3 Day and look at the jobs he saved before he was even sworn in.
LeatherHead
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He's off to a good start, for sure. Let's hope it keeps moving in a positive way. Makes me happy that I voted for him.
drtbear1967
Musclechemistry Board Certified Member
I know that I may not agree with all of his decisions, but so far he has been on par with what I think we need to do.
LeatherHead
New member
He got more fat, angry women off of their asses in his first week than Obama did in 8 years. (saw that elsewhere online and thought is was hilarious and true.)
drtbear1967
Musclechemistry Board Certified Member
For the life of me, I cannot figure out what everyone is protesting. I didn't care for Obama, but I didn't go protest, I went to work. I cannot afford to go spend weeks at a time protesting, I have bills to pay.
The Survivor
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They protesting cause he's draining the swamp!
first blood
MuscleChemistry Member
Well I think the protesting is because alot of people see that what makes Trump a good business man does not translate to a good prez.
Take for example the current situation with his executive order to stop immigration from Muslim countries.
He was told by the attorney general that it is not legal and so Trump fired her.
As a citizen who cares about this country this type of behavior should scare the shit out of you.
The AG should only be fired for cause. What she was doing was critical to her position as AG. The AG tasked an oath to uphold the constitution....so does the Prez.
But the prez doesn't know the law like the AG. The AG prime function is make sure the law is upheld. So if the AG says I can't allow it Mr. PREZ. at least not until we look deeper into it they shouldn't be fired.
The AG did her job. And since there was no cause then how can she be fired?
The prez job is to uphold the constitution and by firing her is the opposite.
If you don't like a law you fight to change it. But going around it is wrong.
Btw...this resembles alot of what happened to Nixon that lead to them trying to impeach him.
So that's why people protest him. Ithe doesn't matter if he brings a few jobs to the country. In the end he doesn't behave as if the law means anything.
Take for example the current situation with his executive order to stop immigration from Muslim countries.
He was told by the attorney general that it is not legal and so Trump fired her.
As a citizen who cares about this country this type of behavior should scare the shit out of you.
The AG should only be fired for cause. What she was doing was critical to her position as AG. The AG tasked an oath to uphold the constitution....so does the Prez.
But the prez doesn't know the law like the AG. The AG prime function is make sure the law is upheld. So if the AG says I can't allow it Mr. PREZ. at least not until we look deeper into it they shouldn't be fired.
The AG did her job. And since there was no cause then how can she be fired?
The prez job is to uphold the constitution and by firing her is the opposite.
If you don't like a law you fight to change it. But going around it is wrong.
Btw...this resembles alot of what happened to Nixon that lead to them trying to impeach him.
So that's why people protest him. Ithe doesn't matter if he brings a few jobs to the country. In the end he doesn't behave as if the law means anything.
drtbear1967
Musclechemistry Board Certified Member
There have been other bans and there was none of this. It is all the libtards playing politics. Carter did it and there was nothing. Obama did it to Cuba and nothing.
first blood
MuscleChemistry Member
Well I think the protesting is because alot of people see that what makes Trump a good business man does not translate to a good prez.
Take for example the current situation with his executive order to stop immigration from Muslim countries.
He was told by the attorney general that it is not legal and so Trump fired her.
As a citizen who cares about this country this type of behavior should scare the shit out of you.
The AG should only be fired for cause. What she was doing was critical to her position as AG. The AG tasked an oath to uphold the constitution....so does the Prez.
But the prez doesn't know the law like the AG. The AG prime function is make sure the law is upheld. So if the AG says I can't allow it Mr. PREZ. at least not until we look deeper into it they shouldn't be fired.
The AG did her job. And since there was no cause then how can she be fired?
The prez job is to uphold the constitution and by firing her is the opposite.
If you don't like a law you fight to change it. But going around it is wrong.
Btw...this resembles alot of what happened to Nixon that lead to them trying to impeach him.
So that's why people protest him. Ithe doesn't matter if he brings a few jobs to the country. In the end he doesn't behave as if the law means anything.
Take for example the current situation with his executive order to stop immigration from Muslim countries.
He was told by the attorney general that it is not legal and so Trump fired her.
As a citizen who cares about this country this type of behavior should scare the shit out of you.
The AG should only be fired for cause. What she was doing was critical to her position as AG. The AG tasked an oath to uphold the constitution....so does the Prez.
But the prez doesn't know the law like the AG. The AG prime function is make sure the law is upheld. So if the AG says I can't allow it Mr. PREZ. at least not until we look deeper into it they shouldn't be fired.
The AG did her job. And since there was no cause then how can she be fired?
The prez job is to uphold the constitution and by firing her is the opposite.
If you don't like a law you fight to change it. But going around it is wrong.
Btw...this resembles alot of what happened to Nixon that lead to them trying to impeach him.
So that's why people protest him. Ithe doesn't matter if he brings a few jobs to the country. In the end he doesn't behave as if the law means anything.
first blood
MuscleChemistry Member
Fucking double post
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first blood
MuscleChemistry Member
the closest historic parallel to this law is the Chinese Exclusion Act in 1882 that banned Chinese laborers from coming to the U.S. That law was repealed in 1943.
What Obama did was not the same once you open up the case and research it.
And you are focused on the ban. That wasn't really my focus at all in my post.
My focus is that the AG told Trump it was illegal and therefore couldn't support or enact the ban. Trump fired her for attempting to uphold the law!!
Whether she was right or wrong is not an issue either. Cause if he allowed her to do her job the next step would be to see if it did qualify as within the law.
This is part of the checks and balances system to maintain democracy.
If the AG followed his orders and it actually is illegal then what's the point of having an AG?
Trump clearly could care less about following the law it appears. Because he isn't even sure if it's within the law. He doesn't know.
Ignorance is no excuse for not following the law.
Also imo he knows it's illegal and that's why he is ramroding it thru.
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Metal85
MuscleChemistry Registered Member
I like that I am pretty middle of the road and get to see that when 1 President starts signing executive orders he's a dictator, when another one does it, they are a hero.
I like how the hugely anti-socialists of this Great Country hate any socialist application utilized by one, but applaud it by another, not to mention that pretty much if you live in the US there is about a 99% chance you utilize socialist benefits your entire, yes ENTIRE life.
Without an outside thing to hate, we always seem to try to separate so we can hate each other.
A lot of crazy things happening right now, but I'd never want MY President to fail, bc that effects me negatively. I heard a vast amount that wanted the last President to fail, as well as the other vast amount now say they want the current President to fail.
If the entire party does not like what's happening, the BEST thing they can do with the next 4 years is find an absolute Candidate.
Build them for the next 4 years!
Have a great platform for them to run from.
Try again.
A lot of money is being thrown around for some ridiculous stuff right now. Not sure the cost of all of them, but like President Trump wanting a recount, how much money and resources does that take to accomplish, and all due to something just burning his ass. You are IN! You didn't not get in, you are in, leave it the hell alone and focus on something better.
Infrastructure
Trade Deals (That don't include us getting double taxed)
Education
Healthcare
Pharmaceutical issues
Insurance issues
etc
etc
etc
I like how the hugely anti-socialists of this Great Country hate any socialist application utilized by one, but applaud it by another, not to mention that pretty much if you live in the US there is about a 99% chance you utilize socialist benefits your entire, yes ENTIRE life.
Without an outside thing to hate, we always seem to try to separate so we can hate each other.
A lot of crazy things happening right now, but I'd never want MY President to fail, bc that effects me negatively. I heard a vast amount that wanted the last President to fail, as well as the other vast amount now say they want the current President to fail.
If the entire party does not like what's happening, the BEST thing they can do with the next 4 years is find an absolute Candidate.
Build them for the next 4 years!
Have a great platform for them to run from.
Try again.
A lot of money is being thrown around for some ridiculous stuff right now. Not sure the cost of all of them, but like President Trump wanting a recount, how much money and resources does that take to accomplish, and all due to something just burning his ass. You are IN! You didn't not get in, you are in, leave it the hell alone and focus on something better.
Infrastructure
Trade Deals (That don't include us getting double taxed)
Education
Healthcare
Pharmaceutical issues
Insurance issues
etc
etc
etc
first blood
MuscleChemistry Member
Metal... I'm with you. That's how I feel.
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Masher59
MuscleChemistry Registered Member
Wrong first blood it is purely within his scope to pause incoming people to this country. Entry into the US is not a right if you are not a citizen and firing the lady that bucked him was exactly what should have been done. She was an Obama holdover and chose to make a political statement and she was fired. As soon as Sessions is confirmed she was done anyway so she took a stab at the President on purpose and got the horns. When Obama was firing out the executive orders his last few months in office there was no pushback. When Obama banned travel from Iraq for 6 months there were no protest at the airports. When Obama pardoned traitors that got Americans in the field killed there was no pushback. The Democrats lost their moral highground by the way many acted after the election. Now it seems the Republicans are the tolerant party and the Dems are delusional. The rollout of the travel pause was sloppy but hey Trump is not going to tell terrorists what we are going to do before we do it like the Obama administration did. We were force fed a crock of shit for the last 8 years and the Constitution was stepped on and used as toilet paper by the Obama regime. It's actually a pure delight to watch all the Dems with their asses on fire and heads a catching run around like chickens with their heads cut off. We couldn't stand Obama but he was the President well guess what the dragon lady Hillary couldn't win so now enjoy 4 years of Trump.
first blood
MuscleChemistry Member
From everything I read and heard on the radio the last 24 hrs. There are legal issues about what he did.
I believe when Obama banned Iraq there was an actual threat made.
But anyway. You are not getting my point. This seems to be a problem to understand.
The AG felt there was legal issues. That's her job whether right or wrong in the end.
He fired her for that.
That's what I'm saying.
Your talking about Obama and trying to explain this with that.
All I'm saying as a tax payer citizen is that if my AG makes a prez hold on an executive order then good!! Presidents with all there exec orders is really getting out of hand.
I have a problem with a prez abusing executive order privileges. So I am glad that the AG can stop it from happening.
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I believe when Obama banned Iraq there was an actual threat made.
But anyway. You are not getting my point. This seems to be a problem to understand.
The AG felt there was legal issues. That's her job whether right or wrong in the end.
He fired her for that.
That's what I'm saying.
Your talking about Obama and trying to explain this with that.
All I'm saying as a tax payer citizen is that if my AG makes a prez hold on an executive order then good!! Presidents with all there exec orders is really getting out of hand.
I have a problem with a prez abusing executive order privileges. So I am glad that the AG can stop it from happening.
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first blood
MuscleChemistry Member
Nixon did the same thing. He tried to fire a prosecutor...it wound up leading to him facing impeachment.... look it up.
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Masher59
MuscleChemistry Registered Member
And you aren't getting my point either. What she did was politically motivated and not based on the law one iota. She even said she felt it was morally wrong what Trump did. That statement alone completely discredited her and showed she was incapable of doing her job. She is an Obama holdover and was getting canned anyway so she did the only thing she could which was take a shot at the President. There have been many Presidents exercise travel bans on immigrants starting with George Washington.
I'm for the checks and balances system 100% but her only reason for disobeying the order wasn't legal it was political.
If it were illegal then why didn't any of the other many Presidents that have done the same thing have their AG buck them?
If it were a MUSLIM ban then there would be a legal issue which this is NOT. Many news outlets are still reporting this as a Muslim ban and perpetuating fake news. It is also temporary while they improve the existing immigration process.
The Dems are digging in and it's a great thing by the end of the next election cycle they will lose even more seats in the house and senate with this behavior.
I'm waiting on them to try to filibuster Trumps Supreme Court nominee. Considering the guy he will nominate was unanimously approved for his current federal seat. I wonder what will have changed that he won't be fit to be a Supreme Court Justice. The only change is that Trump nominated him.
I'm well versed with the Nixon impeachment and there are no parallels with Trump to this point. The liberal media is once again barking up the wrong tree in this area as well.
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