Can Creatine be termed as a Steroid?

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Creatine is a nitrogenous organic acid occurring naturally in all vertebrates. Creatine helps to supply energy to muscle and nerve cells. The body manufactures, stores and uses creatine for pursuits which require bursts of energy – like running at a high speed. Unfortunately creatine reserves within the body can only supply energy from creatine for a very short period of time.
Creatine has quite often been likened to anabolic steroids, because it provides the user with higher amounts of energy and increases lean muscle mass. But nothing could be further from the truth. Though both anabolic steroids and creatine enhance performance, and both are ingested as sports supplements, the basic difference lies in the chemical structure of the two. Anabolic steroids like testosterone are hormones, while creatine is a protein available in the body.
Chemical Structure of Creatine Monohydrate

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When this is compared to testosterone – one of the most popular anabolic steroids, distinct differences can be found.
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From the structures it is apparent that the linear bonded creatine is different from the helical testosterone.
Steroids are of two varieties – anabolic steroids promote generation of new cells and promote growth. Androgynous steroids are responsible for exerting masculine features in the body, like growth of facial hair and deepening of the voice. Most steroids however have both anabolic and androgynous capabilities. For example testosterone promotes growth and masculine features in males. This is vastly different from the effects of creatine, which in essence, increases ones energy to perform. Thus, a bodybuilder on creatine becomes capable of running an extra mile, or lifting extra weight due to the excess energy within his body. This in turn, helps him develop his body quicker. Creatine also has an effect of absorbing water, which increases the water mass of muscles.
Creatine can be classified as a dietary health supplement, as one can consume, theoretically, enough creatine rich food – like red meat, to substitute supplementation. This cannot be done in the case of steroids, which are released within the human body by specific glands, at specific ages and in specific quantities. To amplify the effects of steroids, they have to be ingested through supplements.
Creatine can be said to be closer to vitamins than steroids or hormones. Since creatine is an amino acid(as can be understood from its structure) it is similar to glutamine, and arginine – both used to enhance performance. Creatine supporters have even claimed that taking creatine is not any more unnatural than taking a multivitamin.
Creatine may not be as harmful for the body as steroids are, but studies on the effect of creatine on the body are limited. According to independent reports, organizations like the WTA, ITF, NBA and FIFA are seeking to ban the use of creatine among their athletes. The International Olympic Committee does not specifically ban creatine but it does ban the use of ergogenic acids. Creatine falls under this group due to its performance enhancing capacities.
Thus, a consultation with a physician is imperative before taking creatine, to verify dosage and length of time one should use creatine.
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That's interesting...."Creatine may not be as harmful for the body as steroids are, but studies on the effect of creatine on the body are limited."

Who ever said steroids were harmful?
 
That's interesting...."Creatine may not be as harmful for the body as steroids are, but studies on the effect of creatine on the body are limited."

Who ever said steroids were harmful?[/QUOTE]


good question!
 
Creatine enhances performance, so it could be classified as a "performance enhancer". Steroids are "four carbon ring structures". So no.....
 
I could definatly see it getting banned! If it works well then you know it might get pulled eventualy,lol
 
That's interesting...."Creatine may not be as harmful for the body as steroids are, but studies on the effect of creatine on the body are limited."

Who ever said steroids were harmful?


Don't be naiive, you may be able to mitigate the side effects to keep harmful aspects of steroids to a minimum, but they are in no way harmless, and suprashysiological doses are definitely not healthy.
 
Don't be naiive, you may be able to mitigate the side effects to keep harmful aspects of steroids to a minimum, but they are in no way harmless, and suprashysiological doses are definitely not healthy.

Well it doesn't necessarily matter what the substance is, nothing in mass quantities are healthy, but there's not been one single study to prove that steroids have any confirmed long term effects. I'm not saying you can go balls out and not have a problem, but there's a difference between use and abuse with anything, not just steroids.

You can smoke a cigarette a day or maybe even 4-5 and be fine, but when you're smoking a pack a day it's totally different, the same goes with steroids, you can run low doses without problems, but constantly running high doses may very well be quite harmful
 
Well it doesn't necessarily matter what the substance is, nothing in mass quantities are healthy, but there's not been one single study to prove that steroids have any confirmed long term effects. I'm not saying you can go balls out and not have a problem, but there's a difference between use and abuse with anything, not just steroids.

You can smoke a cigarette a day or maybe even 4-5 and be fine, but when you're smoking a pack a day it's totally different, the same goes with steroids, you can run low doses without problems, but constantly running high doses may very well be quite harmful

Well, I respectfully disagree. You can play semantics all you want, but by definition any use of steroids is really abuse. Unless you are hypogonadal, and you need them at a therapeutic dosage to return your body to healthy levels, you are using them to achieve supra physiological levels of hormones, levels your body was never designed for. That is, by very nature, abuse. Obviously there different levels of abuse, but any usage of steroids, IMHO, is abuse.

And I also disagree with your cigarette analogy. Just because smoking 5 cigarettes a day may not give you cancer as fast as smoking a pack a day does not mean that 1) it's not harmful; 2) you'll be fine. Maybe you should move under some power lines because they 'just give off a little' radiation.....you'll be fine.

Running any kind of suppressive dose of steroids will have negative effects. The effects from high doses may appear more quickly and be more pronounced, but a lower dose long-term cycle will certainly have negative effects. I'd say most people running cycles rarely, if ever, get appropriate bloodwork done. Who knows what kind of damage is being done.

There may not be studies done with bodybuilder levels of steroid usage but science knows what happens with excess amounts of exogenous testosterone, even it's not 2-3g/wk.

I'm not trying to vilify steroids, I've used them, I am using them. But to say they are not harmful is inaccurate and sends the wrong message. Everything has a risk:benefit ratio, steroids included. No disrespect intended, I just disagree with your opinion.

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I dont think they (steroids) are anymore harmful then anything else,ciggs , alcohol ect! And whos realy playing semantics bro, you know what he meant by use and abuse.

And yes as long as your getting blood work done and keeping an eye on everything, then steroids are hardly harmful or dangerous when used within reason.
 
I dont think they (steroids) are anymore harmful then anything else,ciggs , alcohol ect! And whos realy playing semantics bro, you know what he meant by use and abuse.

And yes as long as your getting blood work done and keeping an eye on everything, then steroids are hardly harmful or dangerous when used within reason.
Agree 100%.. Ciggs and Alochol will never make you feel good and look good..
 
It's like politics with things like this mainly because there's never been one shred of long term effect study done on them, not 1. So as it could very well be harmful, at the same time it could be as harmless as taking protein. Either way you're supplementing something that your body creates naturally so taking testosterone or any other OTC supplement to increase levels above what you're body naturally produces is going to be the same thing. I'm not saying anything you're saying is wrong, but until I see a study done proving that a certain illness was caused by steroids and only steroids, I'm not buying into it. Either way I would never stop using them, but to automatically assume they are harmful is jumping the gun IMO. But like I said, there's going to be people on each side of the fence with strong viewpoints, that's life
 
Agree 100%.. Ciggs and Alochol will never make you feel good and look good..

Alcohol might make you look good, maybe not to yourself, but at the time of consumption, you might look good to someone else lol
 
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Alcohol make me you look good, maybe not to yourself, but at the time of consumption, you might look good to someone else lol

Alcohol make alot people look good.. When I get my beer goggles on alot of ugly weman start to look good... lol
 
It's like politics with things like this mainly because there's never been one shred of long term effect study done on them, not 1. So as it could very well be harmful, at the same time it could be as harmless as taking protein. Either way you're supplementing something that your body creates naturally so taking testosterone or any other OTC supplement to increase levels above what you're body naturally produces is going to be the same thing. I'm not saying anything you're saying is wrong, but until I see a study done proving that a certain illness was caused by steroids and only steroids, I'm not buying into it. Either way I would never stop using them, but to automatically assume they are harmful is jumping the gun IMO. But like I said, there's going to be people on each side of the fence with strong viewpoints, that's life

It's not an assumption, it's science. We know how the body works and what happens when the endocrine system is disrupted. But let's just agree to disagree.
 
We all know why they banned steroids, its to keep an even playing field in sports simple as that! They made MJ illegal because they deemed it bad because immigrants were committing crimes who brought it here. To be honest its all politics and if it works its illegal. Cigs and alcohol should be illegal because its more harmful than most and if Mj is strong you need less to be inhaled and cause harm to the lungs but all in all I think it comes down to politics. What long term studies have been done on illegal drugs, compared to cigs and alcohol? Which do we see more harm from and they are still legal. I dont get the backwards thinking of this country sometimes.
 
We all know why they banned steroids, its to keep an even playing field in sports simple as that! They made MJ illegal because they deemed it bad because immigrants were committing crimes who brought it here. To be honest its all politics and if it works its illegal. Cigs and alcohol should be illegal because its more harmful than most and if Mj is strong you need less to be inhaled and cause harm to the lungs but all in all I think it comes down to politics. What long term studies have been done on illegal drugs, compared to cigs and alcohol? Which do we see more harm from and they are still legal. I dont get the backwards thinking of this country sometimes.

It's just crazy that certain things are illegal, yet you can get them from a doctor. That's what blows my mind. It's illegal for you to get on your own, but if a doctor gives it to you, then it's ok.
 
But they hardly ever do give them to you. Its few and far between bro, some do but they are regulated and they know which docs are abusing it or not. Thats why I use a sports medicine dr because its not uncommon for him to prescribe them as vs a family practice Dr.
Who all actually has a DR get them the stuff they need, if so its usually a single item and never a stack.
 
I have never tried, but I know for a fact I can get it. I know it'll cost money to get, which is why I haven't went that route, but if things ever turned bad for whatever reason, it's good to know it's possible to get
 
As per my knowledge creatine is not a steroid full stop and it's completely legal to buy from multivitamin shops. If that would have been steroid then it would not be easily available in markets. So to cut short creatine is safe and very powerful supplement to enhance strength and power.
 
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