My Prohormone stack results-actually did well.

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So I have read multiple posts about Pro-hormones and honestly I have never been a big fan. However I was overseas and only had access to Govt computers and I pretty much worked out every single day to pass the time and get as big as I can. At the time I was 6ft 238 at 16% BF.
Heres my testimony to my experience with Pro-hormones that changed my view of them.
I ordered the Halo Extreme 8 Week stack/ extra bottle of Halo and a bottle of Super DMZ 2.0 from Ironmag Labs. I went through Orbit Nutrition and they shipped it to me Overseas.
I started my stack with the Dmz 2.0 as directed. The first week or so I felt a little lethargy but took a pre workout sup that helped that go away. By the end of the first month I gained 8lbs and my bodyfat didn't go up but I had some water retention.
The second month I started the Halo at 2 caps a day. Am/PM and used Blox aminos along with Glucosamine and MSN for my joints (they were a little achy)
By the end of that month I was up to 250lbs weight and my Bodyfat decreased to 11% and I definitely noticed hardness, definition and vascularity. My strength went up and I was doing 350 bench on a constant basis.
The next month I used the other bottle of Halo till it was done and started the PCT that came with it. After it was all said and done here are my results:
Starting: 6 ft 238lbs at 16% BF
End results: 6 ft 251 lbs at 10.4% BF
I lost a little over 6% BF and gained 13lbs lean muscle!
I was able to get my bench up to 450 for 4 reps max (its all the weight we had available)
This was roughly a 12 week cycle for around 225$.
I ate clean and worked out almost everyday, lifting, running and training maneuvers.

First I was never a fan of Pro-hormones and I've done my fair share of cycles of other items. However I can attest that stack is legit and works well if you follow the regime, eat and train hard. I'm not promoting just giving feedback of my experience that some actually work well.
If you have any questions feel free to ask. I kept a log book through the whole cycle and consumed around 4000 calories a day and almost 2 gallons of water (mainly due to my climate).
Keep in mind Pro-hormones convert in the body and everyone is different, what may work for some may not work the same for others. Everyone I have talked to has had good results with the recommended stack and training regime.
 
I am glad to hear you had a good run.

There are a load of good sources regarding prohormones.

I would NOT recommend other follow this cycle plan.

Super DMZ 2.0 is a very potent combo of DMZ and MSten
I would not recommend longer than 4 weeks.

Halo on the other hand is the prohormone to Turnibol.
However it does not convert very efficiently and takes awhile to build up in your system.
Average cycle is 6 weeks.

Given your previous AAS experience I am not surprised that you did not have any adverse effects.
If you would like to in the future use prohormones I would be happy to make recommendations based on goals.
Many users of traditional AAS have found synergy using PHs with their Test Cycle. As a kickstart or hardening agent.

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Good results, but you don't understand the drugs you used very well. All of them were already active compounds and although hdrol may convert to tbol (this might be broscience), the original compound is active.

I would never recommend 12 weeks of orals, however, I have a friend who used (and I swear I'm not exaggerating) superdrol at 40mg ed for 12 weeks. That is the most fucking insane thing I've every heard of in my life.
 
Good results, but you don't understand the drugs you used very well. All of them were already active compounds and although hdrol may convert to tbol (this might be broscience), the original compound is active.

I would never recommend 12 weeks of orals, however, I have a friend who used (and I swear I'm not exaggerating) superdrol at 40mg ed for 12 weeks. That is the most fucking insane thing I've every heard of in my life.

get your suit pressed, cause theirs a funeral coming! lmao
 
Good results, but you don't understand the drugs you used very well. All of them were already active compounds and although hdrol may convert to tbol (this might be broscience), the original compound is active.

I would never recommend 12 weeks of orals, however, I have a friend who used (and I swear I'm not exaggerating) superdrol at 40mg ed for 12 weeks. That is the most fucking insane thing I've every heard of in my life.

Basically I agree with this.
You should not run orals that long.
4 weeks for harsh orals, MAX
 
get your suit pressed, cause theirs a funeral coming! lmao
Yeah I basically told him that after week 4.

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So hdrol is active and then the body converts it to turinabol? 2 for the price of one? These guys are getting creative.... :flex:
Pretty much every steroid converts to something. Like alpha 1 max (aka cyber supps m1t) converts to methyl 1 test, but the original compound is already very active. EQ converts to test at low rates. A TRUE prohormone in my book is something that is good for fuck all in its original non converted state. The point I was trying to make in that post is that all the stuff he mentioned was active.
 
I didn't have any adverse effects. I appreciate the feedback. I didn't compound them together to avoid the liver issue and with the amount of water and other flushing I used I never had an issue. I would be open to advice on PH in the future. It was my first go with them and it did well. I chose these because they are less harsh on the system and it was what I could get overseas with no problems or suspicion.
When you say active, what do you mean by that if its converted in the system and not a direct hormone?
 
Basically I agree with this.
You should not run orals that long.
4 weeks for harsh orals, MAX

While I agree with this mostly, there are ways to work with these kinds of orals and get the benefits. One of my docs had me on halotestin 10mg for a while, and they are toxic as they come with orals. He had me use them M-F then off Sat and Sun and taking milk thistle or other liver protectant at the same time. I'd still be on them if I hadn't had to change docs. Blood tests confirmed that my liver was just fine, and my enzymes were only slightly elevated as you might expect with a milder oral like dbol 10mg/day with no liver protectant.
 
I did Anadrol 6 weeks at 100mgs a day, 4 years ago and never had an issue, but then again I don't drink alcohol either. (of course I stacked it with something)While I agree some can be harsh its always good to take precautions. I just got good results with this stack and wanted to share it.
 
Yeah I basically told him that after week 4.

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Pretty much every steroid converts to something. Like alpha 1 max (aka cyber supps m1t) converts to methyl 1 test, but the original compound is already very active. EQ converts to test at low rates. A TRUE prohormone in my book is something that is good for fuck all in its original non converted state. The point I was trying to make in that post is that all the stuff he mentioned was active.

So M1T by Cyber Supps is really M1A?
 
We have a guy here that gained 13 lbs of lean mass and lost 6% BF on 2 caps a day and everyone is crying foul liver while regularly running a gram of AAS a week themselves.
 
Opinions are like assholes. Everyones got one. Speaking of which I've been shootin blood out mine again. I honestly don't mind anymore. It's like naturally giving blood to lower the rbc count. Right down the pisser. Plus I get natural lube for wiping..... damn sorry I think I just hijacked this thread. Yeahh...um(scroll to top) yeah hdrol good shit....:embarrass
 
We have a guy here that gained 13 lbs of lean mass and lost 6% BF on 2 caps a day and everyone is crying foul liver while regularly running a gram of AAS a week themselves.
I don't know many people who would not say something about 12 weeks of orals. I wasn't bashing him and I'm happy for him - I just wouldn't recommend 12 weeks on those specific orals. 12 weeks of a low dose or mild oral might be ok.
 
I don't know many people who would not say something about 12 weeks of orals. I wasn't bashing him and I'm happy for him - I just wouldn't recommend 12 weeks on those specific orals. 12 weeks of a low dose or mild oral might be ok.

I was thinking my mild msten epi cycle for 6 weeks would be rough
 
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