Test P, Test E, Tren Cycle

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Kkoz

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Stats: 25 YOM 6'5 242 Lbs BF 11%
Big 3
Bench: 315 5 x5
Squat: 375 3 x 5
Dead: 455 3 x3
MAY 1 GOAL: BENCH 315 x 5, Dead 500, Squat 400 x3

I want to get solid advice on a cycle. This will be my first AAS cycle. I have experience with PH in the past Mdrol, Hdrol and Epistane. I have been lifting seriously for the last 6 years and have made a lot of progress but my height has always shadowed my gains. So I have decided to join the dark side and do a real cycle. I have been doing my research on MC on Test P, Test E and Trenboloe. My goal is maximize muscle size with out the water and bloat that accompanies numerous other substances. That is why I have elicited to run Test P, Test E and Trenbolone.

Week 1-2: Test E 300mg, with Test P 100mg EOD

Week 2-6: Test E 300mg only

Week 7-12: Test E 300mg, ADD Trenbolone ethanate at 200mg

Week 12-14: No AAS

Week 14-18: Novla, HCG

I have Novla and Armidex for gynecomastia related issues that arise.

My question is:
1. Am I using the Test P for the first two weeks as a short acting test correctly until the Test E takes effect.
2. Is the dosing correct in relation to Test P and Test E for a first time AAS user? I am under the impression that MORE IS NOT = BETTER
3. Is the placement of trenbolone correct, and is using trenbolone irrational as a first time AAS? (What would be another AAS to use besides Trenbolone.)
4. Seen clashing argument on Novla or clomid for PCT when using Trenbolone, any reliable data or first person stores would aid in my decision.

Thank you for your time to read and give advice.
 
Well if this is your first cycle running different compounds can be dangerous as if something goes wrong you won't be able to know whats causing those problems.
Also Tren is known to be a pretty harsh compound, good luck and stay safe.
The typical steroid starter cycle is an oral as a kick started + test.
I have never cycled yet but my first cycle which is on its way already will be dianabol as oral kick started while my test E kicks in, then just test E.
Good luck and stay safe
 
Being your 1st cycle I would stick to test E @ 500 /wk . You could also do prop the 1st two weeks as planned.
running to many compounds on your 1st cycle isn't recommended . That way you can see how your body reacts to one compound at a time. I would not recommend tren as a 1st cycle. Although it is awesome, it's sides can be pretty harsh.
If for some reason you don't listen to anyone's advice and do it anyway make sure you have some cabergoline for progesterone control you'll need it with tren.
 
To Tren? Or Not to Tren.....? Interesting scenario. I would just do a nice straight up Test/Deca cycle. See how you react to 19nor compounds first before going full retard(Tropic Thunder) with trenbolone. You wait all this time walking the line then want to do tren on your first cycle? Did something happen in your personal life that made you snap or something all of a sudden. Or maybe you just hit the ceiling of ceilings? Anyway I am interested what other bros have to say. You just bring a lot of other issues to the table with 19nors like prolactin, and progesterone, hair health. You could do something a little easier on you like NPP instead of the tren.

Oh and if I were to do tren I would throw in a little IGF too. Those two have a special working relationship so to speak.
 
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I would suggest either tren A or NPP the reason is that it's fast acting and out of the system quick if the side effects get bad

I understand that most people don't want to run tren on the first cycle because it can have some bad side effects and most will suggest that you save it for later down the road after you see how your body reacts to other things-makes sense like Raysd21 says

the other school of thought is that your 1st and 2nd cycle will be your most productive and you should take advantage of the fresh receptors...just don't go over board with the amount
 
Kkoz said:
Stats: 25 YOM 6'5 242 Lbs BF 11%
Big 3
Bench: 315 5 x5
Squat: 375 3 x 5
Dead: 455 3 x3
MAY 1 GOAL: BENCH 315 x 5, Dead 500, Squat 400 x3

I want to get solid advice on a cycle. This will be my first AAS cycle. I have experience with PH in the past Mdrol, Hdrol and Epistane. I have been lifting seriously for the last 6 years and have made a lot of progress but my height has always shadowed my gains. So I have decided to join the dark side and do a real cycle. I have been doing my research on MC on Test P, Test E and Trenboloe. My goal is maximize muscle size with out the water and bloat that accompanies numerous other substances. That is why I have elicited to run Test P, Test E and Trenbolone.

Week 1-2: Test E 300mg, with Test P 100mg EOD

Week 2-6: Test E 300mg only

Week 7-12: Test E 300mg, ADD Trenbolone ethanate at 200mg

Week 12-14: No AAS

Week 14-18: Novla, HCG

I have Novla and Armidex for gynecomastia related issues that arise.

My question is:
1. Am I using the Test P for the first two weeks as a short acting test correctly until the Test E takes effect.
2. Is the dosing correct in relation to Test P and Test E for a first time AAS user? I am under the impression that MORE IS NOT = BETTER
3. Is the placement of trenbolone correct, and is using trenbolone irrational as a first time AAS? (What would be another AAS to use besides Trenbolone.)
4. Seen clashing argument on Novla or clomid for PCT when using Trenbolone, any reliable data or first person stores would aid in my decision.

Thank you for your time to read and give advice.
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Bro it takes longer the 2 weeks for your testosterone enanthate to kick in, so if your using the propionate to jumpstart your cycle of testosterone then your stopping it too soon! You will wanna stay on the prop for 3-4 weeks minimum until your testosterone enanthate kicks in.

And I think its been said above , but you don't wanna use tren e your first cycle, maybe not even ace your first cycle but if you already have it and are set on using it then it is what it is, just be careful.

I am 6'3 so i know about being tall and it being hard to gain, my first cycle was pure test enanthate and i put on like 100lbs my first year of juice and stuck to single testosterone cycles. and it took my 14 years to pack on serious muscle. So i wish you the best.

It sounds like your already built well at 6'5 242 and 11% bf, thats not bad at all, so just straight testosterone will blow you up nice! Tren i would hold off on in ur case, unless your competing or more experienced theirs no real need for it right now!
 
Bro. Never use tren until u need to add. After 4-5 cycles minimum. 1st cycle should be a 500 mg test e cycle. Maybe a oral to jump start.and pct is just as if not more important than the actual cycle. After you use AAS for a while and know what your dealing with. And try dig compounds. Then n only then add some tren a. Short ester. The answers are everywhere as to why tren a. Not e. For first time users. Also bro NEVER EVER run a cycle without test as the base of the cycle. Even if it's at a TRT dose. U need the test. All other answeres are at your fingertips. I learned by doing. Do not do that. Trust a vet and listen and reaserch til u puke. Trust me it's worth it. Respect
 
Go test and igf and hold on the tren for later down bro. Don't take tren lightly. But hey if your set on it go for it , just watch those sides
 
Gentleman, thank you for all the advice and I have come to realize that I was extremely irrational when evening contemplating Trenbolone.
I will listen and trust your first hand experiences and elicit to do a test only cycle to see how my body adapts to the superphysiological dose.
Thank you for the verbal SLAP TO THE FACE.

WHAT DID THE FIVE FINGERS SAY TO THE FACE? SLAP!
 
Kkoz said:
Gentleman, thank you for all the advice and I have come to realize that I was extremely irrational when evening contemplating Trenbolone.
I will listen and trust your first hand experiences and elicit to do a test only cycle to see how my body adapts to the superphysiological dose.
Thank you for the verbal SLAP TO THE FACE.

WHAT DID THE FIVE FINGERS SAY TO THE FACE? SLAP!
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lmao, good deal brutha!!
 
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