Powderguy
MuscleChemistry Registered Member
Hello all,
I want to put this out there and possibly clear up some long overdue myths and help reduce PIP for most of you that homebrew.
There has been a lot of time and research put into this post so please understand this is NOT opinion here and is actual science, granted its not exact but I have tested it myself with great success. In addition I have verified with chemical engineers and a few from pharm companies to determine BA content in their products and they were willing to share that info with me since I spent 15 years in the business myself.
Excessive preservative. If too much benzyl Alcohol is used to formulate the solution inflammation and pain may result. Pharma grade usually contains 0.9% Benzyl alcohol where the common senses states UGL products contain on average 2% and most homebrews. Anything above 1.2% offers no added anti-microbial effects. Due to water soluble nature of benzyl alcohol tissue irritation of this nature has been known to “travel” as the excessive alcohol disperses via the blood stream. This is most common with injection into the quads (vastus lateralis).The pain travels down toward the knee.
Benzyl Benzoate: Benzyl Benzoate is primarily used topically as a treatment for lice and scabies infections. When used correctly and under the care of a licensed physician, Benzyl Benzoate can eliminate lice and scabies infections completely. Benzyl Benzoate works by damaging the nervous systems of these infectious pests and can be obtained over-the-counter without a prescription. No kidding, its also used as a solvent to thin and reduce the viscosity of injections. Do most of you even know why you use BB? Is it because someone told you too? Truth is most solutions do not require BB and in compounding is most commonly where Bb is used, or with thick oils such as sesame.
Given the chemical function of benzyl benzoate, I can see why its used as it will keep the hormone at the injection site after the lighter BA is dispersed. Its used as a solvent and as mentioned also thins the gear when in multiple compounds and in thicker oils. most individuals have no issues with BB at dosages under 18%. Most common usage is 15-20% when 10% can be used with great results. With volumes over %18 you can get PIP, as this will keep the hormone at the site longer and with the muscle already irritated from the injection you can expect a 4 day site soreness with the use of 2% or more BA and over 18% BB.
Summary: If you are going to use BB, use it at a low dose of volume per container (18% or less) and use it with a thicker oil or when compounding substances such as Sust, or EQ/test blend, ETC. You can use it as a solvent or co-solvent, but unless the aforementioned applies.
When using BA 0.9% per volume or 1.2% should be max used. If proper filtration and sterile equipment is used this should be efficient and reduce PIP in most brews.
Hope this info helps some of you who take the time to read it.
PG
I want to put this out there and possibly clear up some long overdue myths and help reduce PIP for most of you that homebrew.
There has been a lot of time and research put into this post so please understand this is NOT opinion here and is actual science, granted its not exact but I have tested it myself with great success. In addition I have verified with chemical engineers and a few from pharm companies to determine BA content in their products and they were willing to share that info with me since I spent 15 years in the business myself.
Excessive preservative. If too much benzyl Alcohol is used to formulate the solution inflammation and pain may result. Pharma grade usually contains 0.9% Benzyl alcohol where the common senses states UGL products contain on average 2% and most homebrews. Anything above 1.2% offers no added anti-microbial effects. Due to water soluble nature of benzyl alcohol tissue irritation of this nature has been known to “travel” as the excessive alcohol disperses via the blood stream. This is most common with injection into the quads (vastus lateralis).The pain travels down toward the knee.
Benzyl Benzoate: Benzyl Benzoate is primarily used topically as a treatment for lice and scabies infections. When used correctly and under the care of a licensed physician, Benzyl Benzoate can eliminate lice and scabies infections completely. Benzyl Benzoate works by damaging the nervous systems of these infectious pests and can be obtained over-the-counter without a prescription. No kidding, its also used as a solvent to thin and reduce the viscosity of injections. Do most of you even know why you use BB? Is it because someone told you too? Truth is most solutions do not require BB and in compounding is most commonly where Bb is used, or with thick oils such as sesame.
Given the chemical function of benzyl benzoate, I can see why its used as it will keep the hormone at the injection site after the lighter BA is dispersed. Its used as a solvent and as mentioned also thins the gear when in multiple compounds and in thicker oils. most individuals have no issues with BB at dosages under 18%. Most common usage is 15-20% when 10% can be used with great results. With volumes over %18 you can get PIP, as this will keep the hormone at the site longer and with the muscle already irritated from the injection you can expect a 4 day site soreness with the use of 2% or more BA and over 18% BB.
Summary: If you are going to use BB, use it at a low dose of volume per container (18% or less) and use it with a thicker oil or when compounding substances such as Sust, or EQ/test blend, ETC. You can use it as a solvent or co-solvent, but unless the aforementioned applies.
When using BA 0.9% per volume or 1.2% should be max used. If proper filtration and sterile equipment is used this should be efficient and reduce PIP in most brews.
Hope this info helps some of you who take the time to read it.
PG
