New memeber w/couple R3 Long IGF-1 questions??

Hey All

New to the board and I must say I like what I see especially this section reguarding R3 Long IGF-1, which I have already learned allot just by reading throughout the threads....
However I have just recently purchased some R3 Long IGF-1 (MR) and just had a few questions hopefully some one can answer for me such as measuring a dosage within a 100 unit slin pin-the IGF is 1mg/1mg BA and the way I see it 2 units = 20mcg correct? Secondly the bottle says to store in 15 degrees C and since I don't have a temp gauge would that be in the frige or the freezer?

I plan on running 20mcg in the morning and 20mcg post workout along with my current cycle of GARD TTS 150mg/ED and Zencall Enath 250/per week (4 weeks in).

that would definetly be the fridge! lol

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Put it in the freezer man, I dont care what it says, its better in the freezer, that is were I keep mine, the colder the better, the longer and more potent it lasts

Thanks Supra......its been in the freezer since I got it on Wed. Let me ask you-since I saw in a previous thread you bought your R3 Long IGF-1 from the same place I did (MR) how your end results as I start my first experience with IGF on Monday.

Most U-100 slin pins have 50tics total. Your LR3 is at 1mg/mL, which is the same as 1mcg/microliter. Each tic on your pin represents 20microliters. 20mcg of LR3 will be one tic. You can add another mL of BA to make measuring easier w/o any worry.
Keep it in the freezer for sure....no reason not to. Like Supra said, the colder, the less chance of any degradation.

T-Biggs said:

Hey All

New to the board and I must say I like what I see especially this section reguarding R3 Long IGF-1, which I have already learned allot just by reading throughout the threads....
However I have just recently purchased some R3 Long IGF-1 (MR) and just had a few questions hopefully some one can answer for me such as measuring a dosage within a 100 unit slin pin-the IGF is 1mg/1mg BA and the way I see it 2 units = 20mcg correct? Secondly the bottle says to store in 15 degrees C and since I don't have a temp gauge would that be in the frige or the freezer?

I plan on running 20mcg in the morning and 20mcg post workout along with my current cycle of GARD TTS 150mg/ED and Zencall Enath 250/per week (4 weeks in).

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einstein1905

Just so I have this clear my L3 IGF-1 came already mixed with 1mg of BA already so isn't 2 tics=20mcg meaning:

1 tic =IGF and 1 tic =BA totaling: 2 tics/20mcg

No the igf is in powder and is reconstituted in BA at 1ml or 1000 mcg, Therefore as Einstein stated if 1 tick (you should count the amount of lines or ticks on your 1ml syringe), there will either be 100 or 50, if 100 then 1 line/tick is 10 mcg, if 50 then 1 line/tick is 20 mcg of IGF.

In each vial of 1ml/1000mcg at a dosage of 40mcgs per day you should have 25 days worth.

Hope this clarifies things...

Thick1 said:

No the igf is in powder and is reconstituted in BA at 1ml or 1000 mcg, Therefore as Einstein stated if 1 tick (you should count the amount of lines or ticks on your 1ml syringe), there will either be 100 or 50, if 100 then 1 line/tick is 10 mcg, if 50 then 1 line/tick is 20 mcg of IGF.

In each vial of 1ml/1000mcg at a dosage of 40mcgs per day you should have 25 days worth.

Hope this clarifies things...

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I'm using a BD 100unit/1cc syringe with 50 counted ticks (lines) so 1line/tick is 20mcg-correct?

Sorry if I sould like an idiot here I just wan tot get this exactly right and not waste any as I think I have already by shooting this morning at 2 ticks...

By the way does anyone see a problem with diluteing each 20mcg with saline instead of BW at the time of injection?

T,

Yes, 1 tick/line on your 50 tick/line syringe is 20 mcgs.

On the dilution with saline solution, not sure how pure and if it is injectable. I know in reading gropep it states to dilute with BW. But just remember that the dilution is really to make you able to see the ticks/lines better and to get all the igf into you from the injection as we all know a little is always left behind in a shot.

Now here is a twist for the IGF gurus, will B-12 work and not destroy any of the igf active properties???

Thanks Thick..............I definitely go it now!!

Thick1 said:

T,

Yes, 1 tick/line on your 50 tick/line syringe is 20 mcgs.

On the dilution with saline solution, not sure how pure and if it is injectable. I know in reading gropep it states to dilute with BW. But just remember that the dilution is really to make you able to see the ticks/lines better and to get all the igf into you from the injection as we all know a little is always left behind in a shot.

Now here is a twist for the IGF gurus, will B-12 work and not destroy any of the igf active properties???

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B-12 is fine too. I wouldn't reconstitute my IGF-1 in it, but using it in the pin to dilute is fine....I've done it.



If the saline is 0.9% sterile saline, it should be fine to use BTW

they are riight about the math,i line =20mcg

you are right if its mixed at 1;1ratio useing BA its 1000mcg.per ml which makes it 20mcg per line

ALSO HERE IS HOW TO DO IT ,GET B WATER , DRAW 12 LINES OF WATER INTO SLIN NEEDLE TAKE THE NEEDLE OUT OF THE WATER VAIL,SNAP THE NEEDLE WITH YOUR FINGER TO GET ANY AIR BUBLLES UP TO THE TOP OF THE NEEDLE ,THEN SQUIRT OUT TWO LINES SO AS TO REMOVE THE AIR BUBBLES FROM THE NEEDLE,YOU NOW HAVE 10LINES OF WATER IN THE SYRINGE ,NOW VERY CAREFULLY CLEAN THE NEEDLE WITH AN ALCOHOL SWAB,(THIS IS TO REMOVE ANY RESIDUE WATER ON THE NEEDLE ,SO THAT YOU DONT PUT ANY WATER INTO THE IGF-1 VAIL SINCE WATER WILL DEGRADE THE IGF-1 IN ITS VAIL)ONCE YOU CLEAN THE NEEDLE WITH THE ALCOHOL SWAB WAIT A COUPLE OF SECONDS FOR THE ALCOHOL ON TH E NEEDLE TO DRY THEN STICK THE NEEDLE INTO THE IGF-1 ,AND DRAW OUT HOW MUCH YOU ARE USEING ,THEN PULL OUT THE NEEDLE ,DO NOT SHAKE THE SYRINGE ,YOU WILL SEE THAT THERE IS A CLEAR SEPERATION BETWEEN THE WATER AND THE IGF-1 ,AND WHEN YOU GO TO INJECT, THE WATER IS THE LAST TO BE INJECTED INTO YOUR INJECT SITE WHICH MEANS IT CLEARS OUT WHATEVER IGF-1 WAS IN THE NEEDLE,THIS WAY YOU DONT HAVE TO WASTE ANY IGF-1 ,SOME PEOPLE USE MUCH MORE WATER ,BUT I HAVE FOUND THAT USEING ONLY 10 LINES OF WATER IS ENOUGH TO CLEAR OUT THE IGF-1 ,AND IT MEANS YOU ARE INJECTING LESS VOLUME OF LIQUID INTO YOUR INJECTION SITE ,I GET VERY LITTLE OR NO PAIN DOING IT THIS WAY ,PUTTING BW INTO THE VAIL OF IGF-1 WILL DEGRADE IT VERY RAPIDLY ,AND GROPREP AS FAR AS I HAVE READ TELL YOU TO USE EITHER BA OR (I CANT REMEMEBER EXACTLY ,BUT THEY SAY TO USE A HYDROLIC ACID TO MIX)NOT ANY WATER ,PUT GROPREP IN YOUR SEARCH ENGINE AND YOU CAN GET THEIR SITE WITH ALL THE INFO,BUT ALL THE BROS I KNOW ARE USEING THE IGF-1 WHICH HAS BEEN MIXED WITH BA,THEY USE THE WATER THE WAY I DO ,NEVER PUT WATER TO MIX IGF-1IN THE VAIL

bodybybob said:

t biggs you are right ,i dont know what these orther bros are talking about there are two slin syringes one is 1/2 cc which has 50 lines and the orther is a 1cc syringe which has 100lines to it . I use the MR igf-1r3 it comes mixed and 1mg=1000mcg,1 line on either slin syringe =10mcg of mixed igf-1r3(1 IU =10MCG AND 1 IU = 1 LINE ON THE SLIN SYRINGE)

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It's simple math, buddy. Most U-100 slin pins (there are many brands BTW) have 50 tics, which means, since they are U-100 , they are for slin that is 100IU/mL. On a 1mL slin needle, there are almost always 50 tics, which means each tic is 2IUs of slin. Also, since the pin holds 1mL, which is 1000microliters, and it's divided up into 50 equal portions (via tic marks), there are 20 microliters between each tic (1000microliters/50 = 20microliters). Your IGF-1 is at 1mg/mL, which is 1mcg/microliter. 20 microliters equals 20mcgs....since one tic represents 20microliters, it is 20mcg/tic

We also clearly both stated that IF he was using a U-100 with 100 tics the math would be 1/2 that with a U-100 with 50 tics. Most people use Terumos, which have 50 tics. He, himself, even said he is using the slin pins with 50 tics



I hate it when people are arrogant and wrong

you are right ,1line is 2iu of slin which makes each line 20mcg of igf-1 ,i dont know what i was thinking of

bodybybob said:

you are right ,1line is 2iu of slin which makes each line 20mcg of igf-1 ,i dont know what i was thinking of

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No problem....sorry for coming off kind of harsh

T,

I hope this didn't get you confused. Just stay with what Einstein stated. Simple...

Also as Einstein stated check the pureness on your saline.

Einstein thanks on the B-12, kill 2 birds with 1 shot...

I was a bit confused at first but I posted this question on a couple other boards and got the same response as Einstein stated first-so I'm good to go thanks again guys!!

what if you have the 3/10 cc meaning only 30 i.u/tics i use the 30 i.u pins for slin so i have tons of them don't see why i should buy 100i.u ones or 50 the 30 is still says 100u on side but only has 30 tics