Aicar & GW1516

I was wondering if anyone had any experience with these firsthand? Or know anyone who is currently on them or started them recently? The availability of them is starting to skyrocket, just wondering if anyone's had any results? I'm interested in running a cycle to increase my endurance and V02 max for soccer.

I'm definitely not going to start unless I hear some solid results and dosages. I've already been suggested to run 100mg three to four times a week. Anyone with any info at all? There's gotta be someone, I know a few suppliers and this stuff is starting to sell like crazy.

never heard of it, what does it do

Me either. I know this is going to make me sound dumb but what does the vo2 max signify? Im assuming some type of endurance measurement but you know what they say about assumptions.

its that cardio in a sryinge stuff on oprah....from what i heard it works....but its expensive....just get some dnp

The point at which oxygen consumption plateaus defines the VO2 max or an individual's maximal aerobic capacity. It is generally considered the best indicator of cardiorespiratory endurance and aerobic fitness. Think of VO2 max as an athlete’s aerobic potential and the lactate threshold as the marker for how much of that potential they are tapping. Being a soccer player, as you may well know, takes a great amount of endurance if one wants to play at a high level of competition. I am a strong and quick runner but I need to get my endurance up to perform at a higher level.

Aicar and gw1516 can help me with this, or anyone else, by increasing oxygen capacity, converting some fast to slow twitch muscle, transporting glucose, burning fat cells a whole lot faster, and allowing an individual to run farther without getting tired. So yes you were pretty much right jtunderdog, and so were you anapolack, but it is more than simply "cardio in a pill".

"Both AICAR and GW1516 can be given orally and work by genetically reprogramming muscle fibers so they use energy better and contract repeatedly without fatigue. In laboratory experiments, mice taking the drugs ran faster and longer than normal mice on treadmill tests. Animals that were given AICAR, one of the two drugs, ran 44 percent longer than untreated animals. The second compound, GW1516, had a more dramatic impact on endurance, but only when combined with exercise."

-http://www.emaxhealth.com/69/23617.html

Interesting. I had a cross country career in high school and can relate. I will tell you something interesting. Randy Couture of the ufc has a genetic anomaly where his lactic acid levels drop after anaerobic. How awesome would it be to be defective like that?

Holy cow that is awesome. Quite interesting indeed. Thanks for the heads up, I'm in college right now on my track to get my B.S. in Biology, working in a genetics lab. Possibly a new research project for me in the future? haha

Well just to let you guys know I have decided to run a cycle this after christmas. There have been no other logs for anyone using this before, and Ill be sure to update everyday and share all the details. Hopefully it can be benefical to not only me but everyone else interested in these.

keep us posted bro...

OK guys here we are
this is my take on Aicar & GW1516 here is my take on this shit,,, and i mean piece of shit i spent a lot of money for 3 of my friends guinea pig and my on guinea pig... all of them allready had a great performance... no possitive signs of making any better performance then already had... i mean nothing after 3 months.... but but look out for the damages done to your body....
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it decreased VO max in all 4 of them
it seams to run out stamina faster than normal, recovery prolonged the time, it seams that lungs and heart was affected by it…
so overall performance has not been enhanced
on the other hand it has damaged performance in all 4 guinea pig
protocol followed was 1 month 2 time a week 100mg
no improvement but loss of performance was seen then
change protocol to 3 times a week same thing happen.
Then third month change protocol to 8 days 13 mg a day 2 days of for 40 days.
Same shit loss of performance…..
Some is not right with this crappie product some has to be changed… some is not right for sure
My advice stay a way from it for the moment until they get it right…

I personally think it is useless marketed junk that people SEE and go OMG OMG OMG I have to try it !!!! People are willing to buy into anything they read.. hence (muscletech.. LOL)

IMO, you are 100% better off with Equipoise.. plus these peps are rumored to be extremely harmful to the body, but no clinical studies have been conclusive from what i have read..

I say FVCK ALL THE BS !!

The Deuce said:

I personally think it is useless marketed junk that people SEE and go OMG OMG OMG I have to try it !!!! People are willing to buy into anything they read.. hence (muscletech.. LOL)

IMO, you are 100% better off with Equipoise.. plus these peps are rumored to be extremely harmful to the body, but no clinical studies have been conclusive from what i have read..

I say FVCK ALL THE BS !!

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Dont hold back bro, tell us how you realy feel, lmao

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Well I see this older thread getting a lot of views so let's bump it up and see if opinions have changed on these peptides