How many mcg of IGF-1 equal 1 IU of HGH?

Is there a certain number of mcg of IGF-1 that are the equivalent to 1 IU of HGH? And does this conversion change depending on what type of IGF-1 it is (DES, LR3)?

I've heard anywhere from 5-7mcg IGF-1 equals 1 IU of HGH. So 50mcg IGF-1 (not sure what type, DES, LR3, etc) would be equal to 7-10 IU of HGH. Is this true?

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It's hard to say bro. I think you have it back words. I know like 10 iu a day of hgh releases 20-30 mcg igf in the body. Or something like that don't quote me but I'm sure it's something like that.

Yeah, I'm just wondering how much IGF-1 (in mcg) is released in the body for every 1 IU of HGH. I've done some Googling on it, and some say 4-6 mcg is released for every 1 unit of GH, some say 5-7 mcg. This board seems pretty knowledgable about IGF-1 so I figured I would ask here.

I've done HGH doses in the 15+ IU/day range before. But that gets expensive pretty fast, so I was considering cutting down the GH dose if IGF-1 is a cheaper alternative to get the same anabolic/fat loss effects. It would be sick if I could do 50mcg/day IGF-1 and get the equivalent of a decent dose of GH out of it and be able to cut the actual HGH dose back a bit before I go broke, lol.

And what is MC IGF? Is that IGF-1 LR3 or DES?

MC igf is lr3. And I would recommend doing both gh and igf. If your running generic gh best to do double your dose to get close to you target. Generics are mostly fillers. For every 10ui generic vial you may get 1-2 iu of actual gh.

Most generic GH is definitely garbage. I know the kigtropin, jintropin, Ansom-whatever is pretty bad these days. The generic blue tops/red tops/etc are pretty much always underdosed or bunk altogether. But I've found the current batch of hygetropin to be pretty good, although it's always a minefield.

I've only done one kit of Serostim before (too expensive) and I got in the low-30's on my HGH blood serum test 3.5 hours after a 10IU injection. My hygetropin reading was in the high-20's four hours after a 10IU injection. So I've found that pretty comparable to pharma grade GH. And I assume the high reading is due to legit GH. I'm not sure if the high reading could be caused by other factors present in the compound. And I've gotten the usual sides like numb fingers, vivid dreams, physique improvement (also also on gear and slin so tough to gauge) to the same extent I got on the same daily dose of Serostim. So I think the hyge I'm using is legit... for now anyway.

But yeah, definitely looking into adding IGF-1 to the regimen as I can get some of the GH benefits at a fraction of the cost. Hyge is relatively cheap but still expensive to run at high dosages year round (at least for me). Considering much of the anabolic effect of GH is derived from its ability to increase IGF-1 levels, I'm looking more into a daily regimen of 10 IU GH + 40-50mcg IGF-1 instead of a straight 15 IU GH.

yes your cutting out the middle man when taking igf! HGH winds up converting to igf-1 through the liver i believe , however its still beneficail to tale HGH as Growth Hormone has other mechanisms of action other then just convertising to IGF-1 , but for the purposes of bodybuilding and cutting costs combined, you cant beat IGF !!! Ive take both hgh and igf and have come to the conclusion that igf is all i need for what i am looking for! Plus HGH hurts my fucking hands, i get super numb tingle that bothers me bad on good hgh, but thats jut me, i have to say some guys LOVE taking hgh and igf together! But again for my purposes and wanted end result in bdybuilding and longevity, igf is all i need and use!

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yes your cutting out the middle man when taking igf! HGH winds up converting to igf-1 through the liver i believe , however its still beneficail to tale HGH as Growth Hormone has other mechanisms of action other then just convertising to IGF-1 , but for the purposes of bodybuilding and cutting costs combined, you cant beat IGF !!! Ive take both hgh and igf and have come to the conclusion that igf is all i need for what i am looking for! Plus HGH hurts my fucking hands, i get super numb tingle that bothers me bad on good hgh, but thats jut me, i have to say some guys LOVE taking hgh and igf together! But again for my purposes and wanted end result in bdybuilding and longevity, igf is all i need and use!

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I'll definitely continue on with the HGH to some degree since it has some advantages that IGF-1 can't provide. Also, I believe even with HGH the liver will only produce so much IGF-1, so going the synthetic route with IGF-1 is essential.

Very good info here fellas...