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Commandopat

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Hi all,
I'll post a proper introduction here in a little bit, but I thought I'd post here as IGF is what brought me to the forum.
I've been reading about IGF and really am quite interested, specifically to get some growth out of some stubborn muscles - calves, delts and tri's (but may add Bi's in there as well lol ).
I have avoided running gear thus far, but I may make an exception here. I've been training for 13 or so years, am 5'8", 200lbs and about 16%BF? ish?
Most of my weight is upper body because carrying tree trunks around when running (military), isn't the most enjoyable thing. I do need to dedicate a little more time to them though.


Now, I trained Natty most of my life but have done two cycles of prohormones and am about to run another - Dianodrol (5 weeks) along with transdermal trest (7 weeks).

Being in the military does place some restrictions on what I can and can't get away with, specifically my schedule and ability to do cardio. I still need to be able to run 2-3 miles at a time and not feel like my heart will explode, or shortness of breath, something I'm told Test E, or similar steroids could easily do. I have not read anything which led me to believe IGF would give me issues except possible amazingly silly pumps, which in the calves could be a nuisance.

I've been reading a lot of the IGF info on this site and it truly sounds amazing, although I have some questions and depending on answers will probably develop more.

Firstly, how effective can I expect IGF to be if I am using it solo, or occasionally with other prohormones? I'm not necessarily looking for more mass vice muscular development in the aforementioned stubborn muscles.
My shoulders, although plenty strong, just don't seem to have that cannon ball look I'd like. My calves are just pitiful and my arms seem to be stuck at 17". My upper chest is another area I'd consider IGF'ing simply because my lower chest is dominating it.

I've also seen some people using SEO, which seems to have similar goals of increasing the size of certain muscles/areas. Is it recommended to combine the two? Can one still expect noticeable results from only IGF, with no other gear?

Aside from the massive pumps everyone has commented on, there are lots of raves about how full the muscles look and feel. How long does this last? If you cycle the IGF 50 days on, 40 or so days off, how will those targeted muscles look on day 40 of being off? I guess I'm just curious how much of that fullness and increased size remains after one stops taking it. I hope that makes sense?

Has anyone had any issues doing cardio while using IGF?

I think that's about all the questions for now. Hopefully I'll be able to make up my mind before this sale ends!
Thank you,
 
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Commandopat said:
Hi all,
I'll post a proper introduction here in a little bit, but I thought I'd post here as IGF is what brought me to the forum.
I've been reading about IGF and really am quite interested, specifically to get some growth out of some stubborn muscles - calves, delts and tri's (but may add Bi's in there as well lol ).
I have avoided running gear thus far, but I may make an exception here. I've been training for 13 or so years, am 5'8", 200lbs and about 16%BF? ish?
Most of my weight is upper body because carrying tree trunks around when running (military), isn't the most enjoyable thing. I do need to dedicate a little more time to them though.



Now, I trained Natty most of my life but have done two cycles of prohormones and am about to run another - Dianodrol (5 weeks) along with transdermal trest (7 weeks).

Being in the military does place some restrictions on what I can and can't get away with, specifically my schedule and ability to do cardio. I still need to be able to run 2-3 miles at a time and not feel like my heart will explode, or shortness of breath, something I'm told Test E, or similar steroids could easily do. I have not read anything which led me to believe IGF would give me issues except possible amazingly silly pumps, which in the calves could be a nuisance.

I've been reading a lot of the IGF info on this site and it truly sounds amazing, although I have some questions and depending on answers will probably develop more.

Firstly, how effective can I expect IGF to be if I am using it solo, or occasionally with other prohormones? I'm not necessarily looking for more mass vice muscular development in the aforementioned stubborn muscles.
My shoulders, although plenty strong, just don't seem to have that cannon ball look I'd like. My calves are just pitiful and my arms seem to be stuck at 17". My upper chest is another area I'd consider IGF'ing simply because my lower chest is dominating it.

I've also seen some people using SEO, which seems to have similar goals of increasing the size of certain muscles/areas. Is it recommended to combine the two? Can one still expect noticeable results from only IGF, with no other gear?

Aside from the massive pumps everyone has commented on, there are lots of raves about how full the muscles look and feel. How long does this last? If you cycle the IGF 50 days on, 40 or so days off, how will those targeted muscles look on day 40 of being off? I guess I'm just curious how much of that fullness and increased size remains after one stops taking it. I hope that makes sense?

Has anyone had any issues doing cardio while using IGF?

I think that's about all the questions for now. Hopefully I'll be able to make up my mind before this sale ends!
Thank you,
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Yes its good solo and and the gains you make from IGF-1 lr3 are your to keep, its not like steroids and water weight, you lose when done, you add lean quality muscle mass, which is yours to keep when your done the igf, if you use it with a pro hormone, or gear their is a synergistic effect which just seems to yield better gains, but even running it alone will impress you, I guarantee it!!

and welcome!
 
ok I also just peeped your photos, and i have to add that after seeing your pics, the igf will do you some good brutha! It will lean you out nicely, and take away the puff while adding slow and steady lean quality muscle gains. You have a great foundation to start with, so your body type should have no problem seeing gains.
 
and by the way i can see your entire photo bucket album of pics, lol, not sure if u meant to do that or not, but i browsed it lol, nice ride! nice watches! lol, I love watches, have a few myself, anyhow, ur photo bucket is wide open incase ya don't know soldier lol
 
Welcome to MC!! I lost 3-4 pant sizes on MC IGF while adding a few pounds of lean mass and after 3 months off IGF I still remain lean and still have the pounds brother. You wont find a better option in my opinion to what your wanting to do. Hands down the best bang for your buck!!
 
I'm not ever off AAS, but as Presser mentioned MC IGF will work no matter what. It will work better with a PH, but you don't have to take it with a PH. as far as developing roundness and mature look to muscle that's all IGF. If I were to try to super simplify I would say AAS will give you the weight and added mass where IGF gives you developed look and sculpted curves. I don't know how or why, but that's been my experience over the last 7 years of on and off use.
Also yes... You will look better when on IGF than when off. You are enhanced and IGF leads to better nutrient partitioning. The gains will stay, but the enhanced conditioning will slowly fade. That's the way of the world.

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Presser said:
Yes its good solo and and the gains you make from IGF-1 lr3 are your to keep, its not like steroids and water weight, you lose when done, you add lean quality muscle mass, which is yours to keep when your done the igf, if you use it with a pro hormone, or gear their is a synergistic effect which just seems to yield better gains, but even running it alone will impress you, I guarantee it!!

and welcome!
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Good to hear, thank you.

Presser said:
ok I also just peeped your photos, and i have to add that after seeing your pics, the igf will do you some good brutha! It will lean you out nicely, and take away the puff while adding slow and steady lean quality muscle gains. You have a great foundation to start with, so your body type should have no problem seeing gains.
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I certainly wasn't blessed with thin hips, which makes everything look that little more bloated, but such is life. Thanks for the info.

Presser said:
and by the way i can see your entire photo bucket album of pics, lol, not sure if u meant to do that or not, but i browsed it lol, nice ride! nice watches! lol, I love watches, have a few myself, anyhow, ur photo bucket is wide open incase ya don't know soldier lol
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Interesting. First time that's happened. I'll have to find a better way of posting pics. For now I'll take them down. I'm not even sure what all I have in there! haha. Thanks for the warning.

Austin311 said:
Welcome to MC!! I lost 3-4 pant sizes on MC IGF while adding a few pounds of lean mass and after 3 months off IGF I still remain lean and still have the pounds brother. You wont find a better option in my opinion to what your wanting to do. Hands down the best bang for your buck!!
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Well, well, well, this is tempting indeed :)

The Dude said:
I'm not ever off AAS, but as Presser mentioned MC IGF will work no matter what. It will work better with a PH, but you don't have to take it with a PH. as far as developing roundness and mature look to muscle that's all IGF. If I were to try to super simplify I would say AAS will give you the weight and added mass where IGF gives you developed look and sculpted curves. I don't know how or why, but that's been my experience over the last 7 years of on and off use.
Also yes... You will look better when on IGF than when off. You are enhanced and IGF leads to better nutrient partitioning. The gains will stay, but the enhanced conditioning will slowly fade. That's the way of the world.

Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk
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Makes perfect sense. I don't need to gain too much more mass and weight for now. Leaning out a little, and then sculpting what I have is exactly what I'm looking for.
 
Ok, so now that all of you have confirmed my hopes, it's time to think realistically about what I need. I see there is a sale going on, but am unsure how much I'd need and how long I'd want to run it for. Obviously this is a hugely biased and subjective question, but some input would help.
I see ranges from 30-60mcg as starting off and then veering off into the 150+. Considering where I am, what would be a reasonable dose to start with and would I want to increase it or just keep a steady dose?
Should I start at 60mcg, split between each delt/bicep/pec/tri and run that for 50 days or so and then increase it? I also saw a thread somewhere taking a certain dose for 10 days and then increasing it for another 10 and then increasing for another 10...but that may have been SEO.

The buy 6, get the 7th free would let me run 60mcg ED for just short of 17 weeks....not sure if I need that much to start off with. Thoughts?

Also, what about off days? Do you still take some or not?

Needles - looks like most people use 30ga, .5" needles. I take it that's all I'd need for the muscles I'm targeting, right?
Forgive my noobness on this one, but would I need a new needle for each injection? I'm referring to left delt/right delt on the same day.

And lastly for now, what about days where I might train shoulders but throw in some extra upper chest work; would it be worth taking a little IGF in the upper chest as well? That would obviously have me taking closer to 120 on some days.
Specifically when I work arms, I do Tri's and Bi's twice per week. Shoudl I stick to jabbing my Bi's on the first workout of the week and tri's on the second or could I get away with taking the 120 split between bi's and tri's on the same day? I fear the pumps might be a little out of control if I did.

Thank you again,
 
17 weeks is a solid run bro And i would start with 60 mcgs and then work you way according to how ya feel. And most guys here take it every day even on off days from the gym and they usually apply the igf to the body part they are working that day.

I wouldn't go by a set amount of day to up your dosages, i would go by how you feel, as you will feel it working, see the changes, and you will know when its time to up the dosages,
 
I use it pre workout in the muscle worked for the day. About 30 min prior to the work. I started at 60mcg split 30/30 in each side. Wored up to 60/60 over a 7 month period, but its all in how you feel as Presser stated. Usually 60-80 is a decent dose especially the first couple of months. Its an awesome compound
 
As far as your point about doubling dosages you don't really need to with its systemic effect trust me you'll feel it work it's way into the chest. I've noticed if I'm doing chest or back and then throw some bi's or tris in at the end( goddamn little arms) even though I shot up in the chest or lats I still feel it hit my arms when I start doing em. And it's actually even more of a nasty pump then when I normally shot into arms
 
My opinion.... buy as much as you can as it will never be enough once you see the effects
Also no need to race to higher doses... it is very potent. Also the area of application does seem to get preferential results, but everything will pump up regardless of where you apply.

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More great info, thank you.

Still a little hesitant as it's going to be a little harder to keep away from the GF, who thus far doesn't seem to mind the prohormones but may care about pinning...hard to tell without asking.

Also, how much of an issue/less effective might the IGF be if I can't pin roughly 30 mins pre-workout? Because of my job, I'm often at work for 18-48 hours at a time (with some time to sleep), and primarily use the gym on base. It may not always be feasible to pin right before a workout, although within a couple hours should always be feasible. Will I notice a big difference?

This one should be easier, and please tell me if I can't ask this, but 30ga, .5" needles is what I'm looking for, right? I see some with needles and syringes only go to 25ga, while others - insulin go to 29.
Is it best to buy the needle and syringe separately? Which would you recommend?
Oh, and what was the verdict on one needle for both muscles? New needle or is one for both delts sufficient?
 
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And the last question for the night - how must one store IGF? Does it need to be stored in a fridge, or is room temp ok? A fridge would make hiding it rather difficult, especially at work lol.
 
 
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Oh and thanks for the compliment on the car and watches...more expensive hobbies I'm afraid! lol

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Presser said:
ok I also just peeped your photos, and i have to add that after seeing your pics, the igf will do you some good brutha! It will lean you out nicely, and take away the puff while adding slow and steady lean quality muscle gains. You have a great foundation to start with, so your body type should have no problem seeing gains.
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Oh and thanks for the compliment on the car and watches...more expensive hobbies I'm afraid! lol
 
This sale for IGF ends midnight on Sunday, but midnight where? I'll be traveling until Sunday afternoon and want to make sure I don't miss it :)
 
Commandopat said:
This sale for IGF ends midnight on Sunday, but midnight where? I'll be traveling until Sunday afternoon and want to make sure I don't miss it :)
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I got you bro! As long as you send me your order number or order name through a pm or email, I will make sure you get the 7th IGF-1 lr3 free! Even if it isn't listed for sale anymore on the site incase we take down the sale before your able to order!

And for the record, we usually leave the sale price up til 6am monday morning eastern standard time, which is 3a.m. Pacific time.
 
Commandopat said:
Oh and thanks for the compliment on the car and watches...more expensive hobbies I'm afraid! lol

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Oh and thanks for the compliment on the car and watches...more expensive hobbies I'm afraid! lol
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Yeah I love wearing and buying watches! I feel totally naked without a watch on! Kenneth Cole, Bolova's and Mavado's i own, but nothing crazy expensive, couple grand tops
 
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