T4 causing joint pain

pitfowl1983

pitfowl1983

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Has anyone ever experienced joint pain with t4 I'm taking 250 mcg a day for about a week now with 375 awk TPP and dieting as well....but my joints and muscles have started to hurt....yesterday my gf was working late so I decided to rub one out and just that caused horrible shoulder and triceps burning like I was lifting low weight for a hundred reps

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I have never had anything like that I know several other on it with no such pain. That's a starter dose of the T4. Everyone reacts different to medications but I would rule out other possibilities before the T4.
 
Well I'm also on 30mg of adderall that I just started as well to kill my hunger I'm eating 1500 cal a day plus the t4 and test I maybe dropping the t4 soon though because I have been having horrible jaw, and tooth pain and was reading that is a side effect of the t4....I thought I had a tooth abcess it hurts so bad...if it doesn't go away soon I'll have no choice but to drop it I can barely chew food.

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Adderall, and T4! On only 1500 cals a day
Your body is a catabolic machine even on some npp. Are you getting ready for a show or something. What's the rush brutha?
 
Well I lost 110 lbs through adderall and 1500 calories and had a 13.5 in bicep with a 44 chest and a huge spare tire around my waist mainly from excess skin....then started lifting for a year a did a cycle grew to a 48 chest and almost an 18 inch bicep and gained about 30lbs so now I'm 240 and 5ft8 still having that spare tire, I want to get down to 220 and keep the arms and chest I have while losing the spare tire or at least make it smaller. My body is jacked up at 2500 cal a day weighing 210 I bulked 30lbs so 1500 a day is much of a reduction for me

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pitfowl1983 said:
Well I lost 110 lbs through adderall and 1500 calories and had a 13.5 in bicep with a 44 chest and a huge spare tire around my waist mainly from excess skin....then started lifting for a year a did a cycle grew to a 48 chest and almost an 18 inch bicep and gained about 30lbs so now I'm 240 and 5ft8 still having that spare tire, I want to get down to 220 and keep the arms and chest I have while losing the spare tire or at least make it smaller. My body is jacked up at 2500 cal a day weighing 210 I bulked 30lbs so 1500 a day is much of a reduction for me

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Sounds like you've done an amazing job so far.
I feel I would be neglectful if I didn't chime in to some degree. Taking in 1500 calories isn't enough to do more than maybe maintain basic ever day function. It's no where near enough to maintain your level of muscle or even close to the amount needed to help you recover from intense workouts. Your joints are screaming for the nutrients needed to help recover from every day life much less working out. Something is going to give/break/tear/rip....you get the idea.

This is all severely compounded by taking Adderall (amphetamines) & thyroid medications. I'm not judging I love Adderall (but don't use it anymore) and I occasionally use T3 or T4.

Words of caution is all this is but I would be super surprised if you weren't having negative cognitive issues already. Memory, mood, exhaustion and the list goes on. I will say if not the Adderall could easily mask the impairment .

Anyhow I assume you have heard most of this before but it needed to be said again and in this thread.
 
Wells thanks I do appreciate the input, I am taking the Adderall to kill the hunger from the t4,,,should I drop the Adderall.....and yes I have been have tiredness, grumpy, irritable and constantly looking to start an argument. Plus joint pain.

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pitfowl1983 said:
Wells thanks I do appreciate the input, I am taking the Adderall to kill the hunger from the t4,,,should I drop the Adderall.....and yes I have been have tiredness, grumpy, irritable and constantly looking to start an argument. Plus joint pain.

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damn brutha, thats a crazy combo, lol, although I take adderall as well, I take 30mg twice daily, so in total I take 60mg adderall , instant release adderall , which kills my appetite as well, so I force feed myself lmao, but t4 plus adderal wow!

Your adderall is prescribed? Cause, if so then how can you just drop it ? especially if its for a.d.d.
 
No it was not prescribed, my mother has mountains of it along with t4...I had to drop them though because one of them was making me very emotional.. I think I'll add the t4 again later when I start my test/tren cycle after the first....so far I've tried several compounds and test prop and tren ace is the only combo that doesn't make my dick stop working. I just recently gave TPP a try with the t4 and adderall and dick didn't work, switched to prop working again like a wild stallion...so I guess my body only like prop and ace esters.

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Yes it is just sucks it's really the only things I can use....my gf and I are like rabbits so I can't have limp dick working against me lol.

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Presser said:
YEAH PROPIOANTE AND TREN ACETATE IS KILLER COMBO!
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If I know anything about presser it's that he hates the cowboys and absolutely loves a prop/tren ace combo! Personally I love propionate and npp, never tried tren ace as I fear the hair loss sides too much but will be trying some trest here shortly.
 
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If I know anything about presser it's that he hates the cowboys and absolutely loves a prop/tren ace combo! Personally I love propionate and npp, never tried tren ace as I fear the hair loss sides too much but will be trying some trest here shortly.
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Well I'm going bald already so I've just come to grips with that....being 33 years old and freshly divorced a year ago, I learned the early 20's girls love big bald guys had to beat them off with a stick. My gf now is 27 and treats me like I'm the only man in the world...so going bald has worked for me lol

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Chocolate Rain said:
If I know anything about presser it's that he hates the cowboys and absolutely loves a prop/tren ace combo! Personally I love propionate and npp, never tried tren ace as I fear the hair loss sides too much but will be trying some trest here shortly.
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One thing I haven't tried is NPP or deca because even test cyp or enanthate makes my guy stop so been to scared to try nandrolones

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pitfowl1983 said:
Wells thanks I do appreciate the input, I am taking the Adderall to kill the hunger from the t4,,,should I drop the Adderall.....and yes I have been have tiredness, grumpy, irritable and constantly looking to start an argument. Plus joint pain.

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I'm sorry I missed your response to the thread. I see you dropped the T4 & Adderall. Good choice brother at least for now. So far as mood & mental function if your still on a low calorie "diet" make sure you are getting in plenty of good fats. Taking in too low of healthy fats can really impact mood & memory. IMO even taking a gram of fish oil a few times a day will help. Make sure it's good quality and contains EPA & DHA. In addition add a tablespoon of coconut oil or good olive oil to protein shakes or salads a couple times a day. I think you will notice a drastic difference.
 
Well my mood has been rough since about a year ago when I got divorced, it seems to go up and down and I've found clomid at 50mg a day and the t4 make me sensitive emotional like if estogen was high. And adderall makes me pick and start arguments with my gf and Co-workers, which isn't good being my line of work is corrections my state's supermax penitentiary. I'm hoping when me and my gf move in together I won't be so up and down.

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pitfowl1983 said:
Well my mood has been rough since about a year ago when I got divorced, it seems to go up and down and I've found clomid at 50mg a day and the t4 make me sensitive emotional like if estogen was high. And adderall makes me pick and start arguments with my gf and Co-workers, which isn't good being my line of work is corrections my state's supermax penitentiary. I'm hoping when me and my gf move in together I won't be so up and down.

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Aww fuck man! I have a couple buddies who are prison guards and they say its like they're in prison themselves, and hate it, although they love the benefits, and overtime pay lol. Yeah bro, you need to keep your emotions in check at work! Supermax , man I never met anyone who worked at a supermax prison, is it scary at all?
 
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Aww fuck man! I have a couple buddies who are prison guards and they say its like they're in prison themselves, and hate it, although they love the benefits, and overtime pay lol. Yeah bro, you need to keep your emotions in check at work! Supermax , man I never met anyone who worked at a supermax prison, is it scary at all?
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Man I started in minimum security years ago and hated it, supermax has its up and downs, death row is the easiest they never leave there cell unless it's for medical,,most death row are guys that just snapped and now are kinda normal as far as normal can be in this type of situation...but the rest of supermax is pretty rough at times you never work alone. To end up in supermax u are either on death row or have been a constant problem since u came to prison....but honestly I would rather work with the worst animals known to man than to ever work a women's unit again that was horrible...try walking the yard with 575 locked up women, they all ain't ugly either... the shit that flies out of their mouths is 10x worse than a male prison....you really have to watch yourself in a women's unit...any unappropriate contact is a class y felony which means no parole....if she walks up and just pulls ur stuff out guess what your going to jail for rape because as an authority figure any contact is your fault

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Man I started in minimum security years ago and hated it, supermax has its up and downs, death row is the easiest they never leave there cell unless it's for medical,,most death row are guys that just snapped and now are kinda normal as far as normal can be in this type of situation...but the rest of supermax is pretty rough at times you never work alone. To end up in supermax u are either on death row or have been a constant problem since u came to prison....but honestly I would rather work with the worst animals known to man than to ever work a women's unit again that was horrible...try walking the yard with 575 locked up women, they all ain't ugly either... the shit that flies out of their mouths is 10x worse than a male prison....you really have to watch yourself in a women's unit...any unappropriate contact is a class y felony which means no parole....if she walks up and just pulls ur stuff out guess what your going to jail for rape because as an authority figure any contact is your fault

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Tough job bro, pretty thankless too I bet. I'm sure the gym is a great "distraction". It has saved my life more than once. The weights are always there when something needs a pounding.

How have you felt sense coming off the T4 and Adderall?
 
Honestly I've felt alot better don't think I'll be trying the t4 anymore.

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