6 weeks out, underdosed gear

Miki_Cro_94

Miki_Cro_94

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so as im 6 weeks out from a contest, as the title says i did a bloodwork because my friend whos on trt dose(his trt dose is high, 200mg) told me he feels funny, so i did a bloodwork as im on 600mgs test e per week, i pinned yesterday morning and went to the lab, also before labs i pinned 60 hours before( 200mg x 3 a week) and my labs got back few hours after with total t at 2200ng/dl wich is pretty low for a 600mgs, so my friend went to the lab yesterday also, and his labs got back this morning with 600ng/dl, at 200mgs week, wich is low low..
so, my question for you guys is, what should i do, i got another gear, pharm grade test from country next to mine( im from balkan) wich is from the pharmacy so its almost no chance 2 be fake, what should i do now, should i keep dosage the same? or go lower, also my e2 got back at 1700, and thats 10x more than normal on the chart, but my adex isnt bunk, i think its the tren, as im on 175mg tren ace per week, and ive heared that e2 readings can be messed when using nor19, because a friend of mine was using 1/2 letro during his prep and when started tren his e2 was off the charts on the bloodwork, but no high E2 sides, also when he stopped the tren and did bloodwork, at the same test dose, but without the tren his e2 was tanked, non existant...
my adex is generic, but also i got myself letro from pharmacy, domestic from my country, and out of fear took whole pill yesterday after labs got back, today i feel like shit, but it will pass in a few days i guess, so basically, help me save what can be saved, please xD
 
Miki_Cro_94 said:
so as im 6 weeks out from a contest, as the title says i did a bloodwork because my friend whos on trt dose(his trt dose is high, 200mg) told me he feels funny, so i did a bloodwork as im on 600mgs test e per week, i pinned yesterday morning and went to the lab, also before labs i pinned 60 hours before( 200mg x 3 a week) and my labs got back few hours after with total t at 2200ng/dl wich is pretty low for a 600mgs, so my friend went to the lab yesterday also, and his labs got back this morning with 600ng/dl, at 200mgs week, wich is low low..
so, my question for you guys is, what should i do, i got another gear, pharm grade test from country next to mine( im from balkan) wich is from the pharmacy so its almost no chance 2 be fake, what should i do now, should i keep dosage the same? or go lower, also my e2 got back at 1700, and thats 10x more than normal on the chart, but my adex isnt bunk, i think its the tren, as im on 175mg tren ace per week, and ive heared that e2 readings can be messed when using nor19, because a friend of mine was using 1/2 letro during his prep and when started tren his e2 was off the charts on the bloodwork, but no high E2 sides, also when he stopped the tren and did bloodwork, at the same test dose, but without the tren his e2 was tanked, non existant...
my adex is generic, but also i got myself letro from pharmacy, domestic from my country, and out of fear took whole pill yesterday after labs got back, today i feel like shit, but it will pass in a few days i guess, so basically, help me save what can be saved, please xD
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If on tren you have to to estro specific sensitive test!

If your gear is bunk??
I can't tell u, I would have to know how long u have been on that dose of 600mg test per wk.

And your friend coming in at 600 TT at 200mg a wk is within range of trt.
200mg so should put him at 1000 more so but it's same, how long was he on the gear!!

Testosterone is CHEAP AND Isn't under dosed often as with primo, Anavar, tren etc etc....

Give more info!
How long have u been on that gear??
And what is the brand of gear??

And anything including BALKEN can be counterfeited or faked but not as likely with amps.
With vial they can uncap switcheroo and recap and crimp.
But important to get any Pharma product from official distributor and then u good but re-shippers have been known to pull some crap with most of problems a place has!!!
Just saying.....

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It also sounds like u don't have alot of experience. Not judging u, but trying to help.

For now with estro we know your total test was 2200. So with that said take NO MORE THE 0.5MG ADEX 3X A WEEK

I look at these things. With gear and estro.
[emoji830]Am I getting a good pump at gym?
[emoji830]Am I making gains?
[emoji830]I know my body look on test over 500mg a wk and I know it not
[emoji830]how is sex drive?
[emoji830]and I react more to everything when androgens are higher!

Estro
[emoji830]again sex drive, and woods (hardons)
[emoji830]water retention
[emoji830]when removing socks at end of day is there a line that stays there for a while?
[emoji830]has blood pressure went up or does it Lower much after taking AI?
[emoji830]Acne and oily skin with big swollen inflamed zits. Doesn't matter how many but what they look like!
High estro will make a mad cut swollen

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Muscle mechanic said:
It also sounds like u don't have alot of experience. Not judging u, but trying to help.

For now with estro we know your total test was 2200. So with that said take NO MORE THE 0.5MG ADEX 3X A WEEK

I look at these things. With gear and estro.
[emoji830]Am I getting a good pump at gym?
[emoji830]Am I making gains?
[emoji830]I know my body look on test over 500mg a wk and I know it not
[emoji830]how is sex drive?
[emoji830]and I react more to everything when androgens are higher!

Estro
[emoji830]again sex drive, and woods (hardons)
[emoji830]water retention
[emoji830]when removing socks at end of day is there a line that stays there for a while?
[emoji830]has blood pressure went up or does it Lower much after taking AI?
[emoji830]Acne and oily skin with big swollen inflamed zits. Doesn't matter how many but what they look like!
High estro will make a mad cut swollen

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HIGH ESTRO
-lack of night and morning woods
Erectile dysfunction no balls
-oily skin big painful zits if u have any
-mood swings
-anxiety
- not as much sleep at night
-feeling sluggish
-water retention, that line that remains and doesn't bounce back as fast when sock are removed for example.
-
LOW ESTRO
-dry skin
-bumps on dry skin like tiny white heads in acne trouble spots. Thick white zit without swelling and as much inflammation
-erectile dysfunction lower sex drive
-joint pain
-feeling like shit
NO WATER RETENTION
Weak woods or hardons!!

These are things I look for but if u on tren then u can have some of these symptoms from progest and prolactin as well.

It's important to stop freaking out!!
If your gear was bunk your test would be Notta!!
And if your test was low 2200... Then you DO NOT HAVE ESTRO 1700 OR EVEN CLOSE!!
You need ESTRO SPECIFIC SENSITIVE TEST TO MEASURE ESTRO ON TREN OR 19NOR!!

Gauging estro I start low dose of adex 0.5 at 2x a week and increase if necessary..

At the moment I am using Aromasin at 25mg eod but I am on a bunch of gear include trest ace.
Look at my log I started. It's an example of what I do.
"Mechanics lean bulk then cut" thread.

I say this alot, why not use Nolva at 10mg a day and not worry about estro as much.
Use a small maintenance AI dose and let Nolva protect your tissues from estro.


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from what i've read about it, you should do labs 48-72 hours after last pin, after five weeks. your levels should be 5x what you run per week. i can not say it is not underdosed. i'd say let the ai go for a day or two to see if that helps with your crappy feeling.
 
pgb said:
from what i've read about it, you should do labs 48-72 hours after last pin, after five weeks. your levels should be 5x what you run per week. i can not say it is not underdosed. i'd say let the ai go for a day or two to see if that helps with your crappy feeling.
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1 gram of test per week for example will average 3000-4500 but will vary person t9 person with some much higher and some around 2500.
This is norm average for 1 gram test cyp or enathate per week

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And it will take around 40-60 days to become stable and accumulative!!

So length of time on important.
I think they require 84 hours after last pin to be consistent in this comparison test to be "fair"!!!

To the OP unless u have been on 600mg wk for 40-60 days then still there is no indicator your gear is underdosed!!
And your buddy with the 600 tt with 200mg a week isn't bad either.
200mg is often a replacement dose and 600 tt is dead in mid level range.

Some guys come in higher and some don't
Some require a 100 TRT weekly dose others 300mg weekly dose trt

I come in with my Pharma US stuff at 500-600 tt with 100mg per wk.
I used to come in at 900 tt with 100mg a week TRT.
Example of how we metabolize it differently over time and need more!!!

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