Tren and dark urine
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fstr03svtcobra
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Tren is renal toxic just like 17aa methyls are liver toxic. I talked with a leading urologist on this very matter.
MonkeyWrench
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And?? Damn, that was it, it's toxic? More at 11:00?? Hanging on like the news?
fstr03svtcobra
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He was looking for a reason as to why his piss was dark from taking tren other than the typical metabolite explanation. I answered his question - I didn't tell him to take tren or not take tren.
And I'm not your after school special BITCH - everyone knows that after school specials don't use science.
but to rebuff that as the cause of dark urine renal damage will not occur in 24 hours from one injection, I do believe it is quite renal toxic as well.
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one more quick question, does this urologist workout or "know" about bodybuilding etc.. I know it always helps if they are educated on the subject vs. just what med school engrained into their brains.
fstr03svtcobra
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lol yes!!!!!
Also, to your rebuff (although I'm not disagreeing) toxicity doesn't mean damage. Color of piss doesn't necessarily mean damage just like alt/ast doesn't indicate liver damage. They indicate cell death. They are just markers. Now bilirubin on the other hand tells you how your liver actually is functioning. But that's a separate topic.
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MonkeyWrench
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What's up with after school special? Just thought you might give us some insight as to your conversation about the toxicity of tren, you brought it up in your conversation. Did I accuse you of telling someone to take it or not take it?
fstr03svtcobra
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OH brother I owe you an apology. I thought you were downplaying toxicity by saying something like 'it's no big deal it's just toxic.' And then I thought you were saying that it was a typical reply by people 'in the know' like the media and that it was something you would hear on the news. My bad. I hope you can see how I interpreted your reply - I promise I'm not a dick, but I was in that reply and I'm very sorry bro!
Yeah I didn't go into too much, but he basically said that most people don't realize that it isn't just hard on your kidneys, but that it is directly renal toxic. And just for the record, he's got at least 20 lean lbs on me. He is definitely a member of the iron brotherhood.
MonkeyWrench
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No problem Bro, just words on a page, hard to know sometimes. I didn't mean any of that, ha ha. I've never run tren in any form so I'm always interested in someone's personal experience. Some say really toxic 2weeks stopped others stay on 6 month labs perfect, literature gives some mixed reviews as well. I'd like to give it a run.
Ouch!! lololol
fstr03svtcobra
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Yea I misinterpreted what he said LOL. I didn't mean to be an ass.
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Thanks for understanding man!
The thing about gear IMO is that it's a crap shoot as to how the body is effected. Some guys just stay relatively healthy and use tons of gear. Other guys do a cycle of tren and test and have 8 as their hdl after 12 weeks.
lol, yeah i thought u woke up on the wrong side of the bed too lol
dorian123
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hmm most of the research that I've done shows that Tren is mostly filtered through the liver like other AAS...
however, mostly doesn't mean completely-the liver is much tougher than the kidneys
I never had a problem with dark urine just foaming when I was taken it...this was a few hours after the shot
however, mostly doesn't mean completely-the liver is much tougher than the kidneys
I never had a problem with dark urine just foaming when I was taken it...this was a few hours after the shot
fstr03svtcobra
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Yea I did and I misread what he said. Sorry MC friends LOL. I think I'm usually pretty friendly and try to be helpful when I can
Yea I did and I misread what he said. Sorry MC friends LOL. I think I'm usually pretty friendly and try to be helpful when I can
You are brutha!
Mrbigz
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Running tren bro?? Lol
Protein breakdown is not what causes the dark urine. Plus when we consume more protein then we need or our body can process you will be able to feel it being pissed out of your dick like fine granules of sand. I would not exactly use this as a measurement for whether you got enough or too much protein but its just a simple fact.
Muscle mechanic
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I don't even use much protien.
I eat it all a shake here and there but not needed in my training.
Dark urine in tren.
Tren drys me out and lowers estro.
With TREN more water a must.
Other than that my health and blood work perfect I use tren 2-3 cuts per year.
I have no problems at all...
My kidney function great what affected kidney function is too much protien, not enough water, gaining too much weight or BMI and then cutting a bunch of bloat.
Unless in my opinion.
Oh and high uncontrolled estro reabisorbing sodium ions thru increases of aldosterone...
Also having BMI of over. 33-34 No matter what bf% is at taxes kidney function and causes non alcoholic fatty liver due to storage of fats to fuel muscle.
This is a trickling affect from on organ to the next.
I chose to stay lean enough that my BMI doesn't have to be that high to show muscle!!
My choice and opinion
I can use all tren I want with no issue in single digits, but cardio and BP take a hit if over 12%
But tren ace drys us out and significantly lowers estro and water so we need more water and urine clear
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I eat it all a shake here and there but not needed in my training.
Dark urine in tren.
Tren drys me out and lowers estro.
With TREN more water a must.
Other than that my health and blood work perfect I use tren 2-3 cuts per year.
I have no problems at all...
My kidney function great what affected kidney function is too much protien, not enough water, gaining too much weight or BMI and then cutting a bunch of bloat.
Unless in my opinion.
Oh and high uncontrolled estro reabisorbing sodium ions thru increases of aldosterone...
Also having BMI of over. 33-34 No matter what bf% is at taxes kidney function and causes non alcoholic fatty liver due to storage of fats to fuel muscle.
This is a trickling affect from on organ to the next.
I chose to stay lean enough that my BMI doesn't have to be that high to show muscle!!
My choice and opinion
I can use all tren I want with no issue in single digits, but cardio and BP take a hit if over 12%
But tren ace drys us out and significantly lowers estro and water so we need more water and urine clear
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G890A using Tapatalk
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