Hey guys, I'm new to this forum and from what I've read there is a lot of solid information and advice in here. So I've started my cycle a few days ago, I am running DP Cutmix 150 at 100mg EOD (pretty conservative) for 8 weeks, and waiting for T3 (40-50mcg ED) to arrive in the mail. I am looking to cut hard while maintaining/gaining muscle (nothing crazy, just everyone loves gains). Other supplements I will be running during cycle are ON optimen multivitamins, Orange oximega fish oil, and Redcon Halo (Laxogenin). Last 4 weeks will be adding HCG 500iu monday/thursday. Followed by Nolva( 2 weeks at 40mg, 2 at 20mg) and Clomid (2 weeks at 50mg, 2 at 25mg) PCT. Looking for any solid advice. From the research I've done, this cycle should be good to go, but other opinions and information are always appreciated. Past experience is an 8 week cycle of Test P at 75mg EOD, with 4iu HGH ED (cycle was specifically for recovery and performance due to injury during a high intensity training program). Also tried to run Anavar once, but I ended up being one of those rare people who gets debilitating muscle cramps from Anavar. I have also run a few cycles of IGF-Lr3 and tried some SARMS. Thanks in advance for any helpful information!!
Started cycle and looking for a solid sanity check
yellow snow
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What does DP cutmix have in it?
Word to the wise, I always have everything in hand before starting anything. Murphy's law.
drtbear1967
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Agree with the brothers above, need to know what is in the cut mix. T3 with Clen is the normal go to.
Hey guys, thanks for the replies. The Cutmix is Test p 50mg, Tren 50mg, and Mast 50mg per ml. Only running 100mg EOD, so should be 33mg of each eod. Running the T3 to burn fat. Thanks for the Anavar cramps advice, I'll probably give that another go down the road.
Fun little development....my shipment with the HCG, T3 and PCT arrived.....but it only had 2 vials of HCG (only ordered 1):crap: contacted seller, he's sending the rest now.....supposedly
Fun little development....my shipment with the HCG, T3 and PCT arrived.....but it only had 2 vials of HCG (only ordered 1):crap: contacted seller, he's sending the rest now.....supposedly
yellow snow
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See Murphy showed up as he always does!!
This looks like a good mix and you shouldn't have many sides. If this is your first run with Tren, you will be able to cut calories hard (1000-1500 below maintanance) and still gain strength...............enjoy the ride.
drtbear1967
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Look out, Tren Train coming thru!!
Looks good bro & good luck! Only thing I would do different, is run the clomid higher for the first week or two. Some people stick around 50 mg, but I go a little higher. I ran tren for the first time on my last cycle & had a hell of a time getting my nuts back!!! It sucked bro! That's just my 2 cents
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I was going to write the exact same thing as presser. Don't buy steroids or even supplements that are all mixed together.
Bro don't mess with T3 if you don't know what you're doing. This shuts down your natural production.
T3 will raise your metabolism = burn more fat. I don't think its worth it. Just do some more cardio or eat less instead.
If I were you I would do 100mg test prop eod with 50mg tren ace eod. If you want to look more dry, 50mg winstrol ed.
Bro don't mess with T3 if you don't know what you're doing. This shuts down your natural production.
T3 will raise your metabolism = burn more fat. I don't think its worth it. Just do some more cardio or eat less instead.
If I were you I would do 100mg test prop eod with 50mg tren ace eod. If you want to look more dry, 50mg winstrol ed.
Everything I've read on T3 is either far left or right (as far as good or bad). Is there anything on the market to help boost natural production after T3?
So first update: My Biceps are sore for the first time in years!! One of my main reasons for this cycle is for recovery, I've been constantly injuring myself for years. One of those injuries being HORRIBLE tendinitis in both my forearms and biceps (where they tie in to the forearm). I would do maybe 5x5 pull ups and my arms would feel blown out for a week. Two days ago I a pretty back and bi intensive workout and nothing but sore biceps! I miss this feeling!
So first update: My Biceps are sore for the first time in years!! One of my main reasons for this cycle is for recovery, I've been constantly injuring myself for years. One of those injuries being HORRIBLE tendinitis in both my forearms and biceps (where they tie in to the forearm). I would do maybe 5x5 pull ups and my arms would feel blown out for a week. Two days ago I a pretty back and bi intensive workout and nothing but sore biceps! I miss this feeling!
yellow snow
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There are some suppliments that are supposed to help, not sure if they do or not. I like using T2 (3,3 is non supressive and the more populare 3,5 is suppressive). I would use the T2 (3,3) version after T3 to let my thyroid come back to life. I think it worked, but who knows for sure.
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Be very careful bro! Both tren and test raises protein synthesis. You get tendinitis when muscles get bigger and stronger than tendons can handle. Muscles recover faster due to high protein synthesis,the tendons do the opposite pretty much. So you need something to raise your collagen synthesis.
You can use T3, it will most probably shut down your natural thyroid production. I wouldn't do it if it wasn't contest prep.
You can use T3, it will most probably shut down your natural thyroid production. I wouldn't do it if it wasn't contest prep.
yellow snow
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Everyones body is different. I love tren, test and winnie............this for most people kill their joints, but I have no issues. Everyones body is different, I wouldn't automatically include deca to help with tendons. I know I have the study somewhere, but if I remeber it correclty the deca/joint help was just a myth ( then again other guys swear by it, once again everyones body is different). Play around and see what your body likes.
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What yellow snow said!
I have read the same thing about deca. But it seems to help people with joint/tendon issues. In theory winny raises collagen synthesis the most. But it makes the tendons brittle instead. So it has the opposite effect.
I'd say raising GH with peptides (or taking just taking HGH), anavar, eq are some of the things that will raise collagen synthesis. I've read about deca doing this as well. But as for joint health, according to some studies I've read, it doesn't do anything.
Some people here say that eq, anavar etc, will make their joints and tendons worse. And I believe them because we are all different. What works for me doesn't have to work for them and vice versa.
At the end of the day you have to try what works for you and doesn't.
And let's face it, most of us are addicted to training so most of the time we just need time off to recover.
I have read the same thing about deca. But it seems to help people with joint/tendon issues. In theory winny raises collagen synthesis the most. But it makes the tendons brittle instead. So it has the opposite effect.
I'd say raising GH with peptides (or taking just taking HGH), anavar, eq are some of the things that will raise collagen synthesis. I've read about deca doing this as well. But as for joint health, according to some studies I've read, it doesn't do anything.
Some people here say that eq, anavar etc, will make their joints and tendons worse. And I believe them because we are all different. What works for me doesn't have to work for them and vice versa.
At the end of the day you have to try what works for you and doesn't.
And let's face it, most of us are addicted to training so most of the time we just need time off to recover.
Amen. So while the soreness was healing, i noticed a slight bit of tendinitis while laying in bed at night with my phone to my face with my arms in that same position for a prolonged amount of time. No other pain outside of that.
I am definitely intrigued about trying anavar again with the proper support.
As far as peptides (and SARMS), i've read so much about there being so many bunk suppliers out there and how hard it is to find a LEGIT supplier. Any suggestions?
Being addicted to training is for sure my downfall. it's not even an ego thing, i wish it was, that'd be easier to explain. You're coming back from an injury/tweak and telling yourself you're gonna take it nice and easy, get a good workout in and not over do it. next thing you know you're stacking plates because that rush and need for more takes over.....then you are laying on the floor stretching you're lower back for 30 minutes until you can walk again
during this cycle I am making it a point to focus on lighter weight and high rep, cardio, and calisthenics to work on getting some of those smaller muscle groups firing off again instead of letting the larger groups take over.
I am definitely intrigued about trying anavar again with the proper support.
As far as peptides (and SARMS), i've read so much about there being so many bunk suppliers out there and how hard it is to find a LEGIT supplier. Any suggestions?
Being addicted to training is for sure my downfall. it's not even an ego thing, i wish it was, that'd be easier to explain. You're coming back from an injury/tweak and telling yourself you're gonna take it nice and easy, get a good workout in and not over do it. next thing you know you're stacking plates because that rush and need for more takes over.....then you are laying on the floor stretching you're lower back for 30 minutes until you can walk again
during this cycle I am making it a point to focus on lighter weight and high rep, cardio, and calisthenics to work on getting some of those smaller muscle groups firing off again instead of letting the larger groups take over.
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Yellek I'm exactly the same
To be honest, I like the backpumps. Feels like I've had a proper workout. I actually miss them since I'm not able to take gear and only done few cycles.
Taurine should really help you with backpumps, 2g-4g. Try to find what works for you. Beta alanine should help as well. If you get musclecramps get some magnesium and potassium.
I'm sure you already know this, but keep your water and sodium in check.
To be honest, I like the backpumps. Feels like I've had a proper workout. I actually miss them since I'm not able to take gear and only done few cycles.
Taurine should really help you with backpumps, 2g-4g. Try to find what works for you. Beta alanine should help as well. If you get musclecramps get some magnesium and potassium.
I'm sure you already know this, but keep your water and sodium in check.
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