Hgh and igf1?

Muscle mechanic said:

I use both.
Best timing is this.

Use 2.5 iu fasted Upon rising
Use your t3/t4
45 min later only protien
Go work out have igf ready
My choice igf des go pin in bathroom with 20 minute left of workout
Eat within 20minute after workout

If u not on extra thyroid and your hgh us good. Good luck staying awake!!

I will start again in morning
I use 1 vial DES then 1 vial lr3 mine are 200mcg vials so I mix and Gotta use in few days up
I use 1 of each break 1 week then another.
I use 50mcg. Both last 20min of workout

I have prolly 5 vials of each des and lr3 left 200mcg a vial powder.
I have 1 MC IGF it's a year but will use it too.
I get leaning and what feels like much bigger hgh release.
But I use the igf at time hgh has it secreting from liver this way receptors are open by correct feedback if cells sending hgh then liver gets signal to manufactor thus is time to pin igf and get full effect.

Pin in muscle worked receptors def open at this time and shuttling is so much higher u betrer have t3 to allow metabolism to keep up!!
Or bed time!!!!


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Presser said:

HGH also converts into other Growth Factors, aside from Insulin-like growth factor-1 , and it is these other growth factors that help with your skin elasticity, and your nails I believe, a bunch of other little things that yes I would call beneficial.

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guardianactual said:

See gh is controversial like everything in the game lmao. I read it converts to igf1 so you dont need it, but mostly bro science, person who said to use creatine with var. Although someone posted a study that said var plus creatine = better results.

I wouldn't see how igf1 + gh wouldn't be synergistic I mean, igf1 + gear or gh + gear is.

Press, you ain't axing igf1 right? It's still going to be in the store?

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Muscle mechanic said:

Wrote a good response on how hgh and igf works.
Including that igf is manufactured in liver from cells sensing presence of hgh and sending signal.
It's a chain of events and many.
Igf isn't converted but instead manufactured as said.
Adding more IGF works better with presence of hgh natty or administered because cells that send signal await IGF with open arms

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Maj7900 said:

I haven’t done both yet but plan on it this summer. But yeah, GH and IGF together is a great idea. I’ve heard that cycling the IGF 2 weeks on and one off is a good route. Let me check back into why.


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guardianactual said:

I heard that a long while ago that it "downgrades" the receptors fast so you do 2 weeks on 2 weeks off. I've ised IGF1 in that reguard back in the day and I so used it for 6 months straight no breaks. Didn't really notive anything different in regards to response by my body or anything. I had no negative side effects and no diabetes (I get tested 2x a year family genetics I can't say you need to do it for that long, just that I have before haha)

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Maj7900 said:

I like it, I too have diabetes in the family and get tested, I was diagnosed with hypo glycemia when I was a child but it’s good now. Stays in the 60 to 90 range depending on how many cookies I eat.

I want to add igf to my next cycle but am very cautious due to this. Gotta really know your stuff to navigate that fine line. So I thought I’d do 7 on and 3 off to see how it works for me. Slin is out the question right now and probably never.


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guardianactual said:

My famipy history is rittled with diabetes too. I also get tested. Also have hypoglycemia very apparent bc I get very irritable when hungry haha.

I used igf1 a while back no negative side effects other than subq shots seemed to irritate my skin.

Hgh has my insulin sensitivity messed up i was hoping perhaps igf1 would help correct it? I also am using narala and chromium

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