Rookie cycle questions.

[Catfishlips]

So I am struggling with figuring out my next cycle. I have a reputable supplier, I know the gear I want to run, and how long I would like to run. Now I would like dosing and pct advice.

I have ran strate test before. I have been on MC IGF 1 for months while recovering from an elbow injury.

I'm 5' 9" 188 15%BF+- 37YO

I would like to run Test E, mainly because I already have some on hand.
Eq, npp, and MC IGF
I would like to run about 16 weeks with a small pct around week 8, but never come off completely till the end of the 16 weeks.

I'm thinking 400p/week npp, 500p/week Test,
and 80-100 per day MC IGF. I will taper the Npp off near the end of the cycle

I'm just not sure how much/often for the eq, or what my PCT would look like?

Thanks you for you consideration.

 

[thudgens96]

I would run the eq a min of 600 a wk split

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[coverton341]

I have questions.

Why do you want to do a "small pct" at week eight? Pct is something that you do to get your natural production to start up again. If you do it in week eight while still introducing exogenous hormones to your system it is going to do literally nothing aside from waste pct drugs. Your internal production will still be shut down and can't be restarted due to exogenous hormone.

Secondly, I personally would run the npp past the test e. It has a shorter half life than the test and will clear sooner. That's just me though. I would run test to week 16, run npp to week 17 or 18 and start pct at week 20 and run it through 22 or 24. That will ensure that you begin pct when all the exogenous hormones are clear and not interfering with the htpa. I would actually cut the EQ at week 12 because it's ester is longest in your cycle, unless you're using boldernone enanthate or a shorter ester of it.

As for dosage of EQ, most people run it upwards of 600 a week and split it into biweekly shots as thudgens96 said

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[Catfishlips]

Thanks coverton, I was just suggested to do a small pct half way threw by a very close trusted friend of mine. Maybe I gave him bad info to start with, but I trust this man with my life.

So pct should be clo and Nov. Any ideas on the schedule and dose?

 

[coverton341]

I don't want to say anything negative about your friend, but if he is suggesting pct half way through a cycle, I believe he may have a faulty understanding of the human endocrine system and how fsh and lh work in the male body. That's not necessarily a bad thing, I've spent a good portion of my life studying that type of thing and most people don't so they have misconceptions.

Past that, I still think it would be a total waste to do anything pct related half way through. My opinion, it's your life, money, and pct medications. Do with them what you will.

As far as protocol, I would again wait until week 20 for everything to clear. Then I would start out at 40mg nolva a day for a week, drop to 20mg nolva a week for the next three weeks and be done. I personally am not a fan of clomid because I get emotional at weird times because of it. That said you are doing more than a beginner cycle and it could be useful. So, if you really need it, I would start clomid at the same time as nolva and run it at 25mg the whole time. If you have 30mg pills do that the entire time.

tldr;
week 20 take 40mg of nolva a day with 25mg of clomid a day
weeks 21-24 20mg nolva a day with 25mg clomid a day or The closest equivalent you can do with the pill dosages you have.

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[Catfishlips]

Thanks again for the help. I don't think your trying to say anything bad about anyone. I think it may have been just a misunderstanding/ miss communication on his end or mine. He has been doing this for a long time. More than likely it was on my end. I really appreciate your help and thanks again.

 

[coverton341]

No problem. Good luck with your cycle.

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[IronJulius]

No need to taper npp and run test 2 weeks after last EQ shot. Start pct 14 days after last test shot

 

[Catfishlips]

Thanks Julius. Why the test 2 weeks after the last EQ? Im not trying to questioning your post, I just don't know why.

 

[IronJulius]

Thanks Julius. Why the test 2 weeks after the last EQ? Im not trying to questioning your post, I just don't know why.

Takes EQ longer to clear your system just like it take longer to kick in. With deca it's almost a must but I think with EQ you would be OK but could still make more gains. Hell I tried to make sense of it lol if I find more info on it I'll let you know. Hell someone probably will chime in to better explain

Edit always good to know why you should do something so question away

 

[Catfishlips]

I have also read that npp will boost your IGF1 mRNA levles and assist with nitrogen saturation in mussle tissue.

Is that true or bullshit?