First Cut Cycle Advice Please

[Sparky42]

New to the Forum, thank you for all the info so far. I’ve been on TRT for several years now and over the last 2 years I started to add in an occasional cycle. All 3 times were a basic 12-13 week bulk cycle (Test E & Dbol). I got blood work in the middle of every cycle and 4 weeks after to make sure all hormones and lipids were dialed in. I feel like I have a good grasp on test E and dbol and how my body responds but I’ve only done these bulk cycles. Now I’m thinking about a CUT CYCLE. Would love to get suggestions from you all for best first cut cycle. Here is my info:
- 36 years old
- 6’1”
- 208 lbs
- 12-13% BF
- Higher protein Keto “off cycle TRT” (5/35/60) (still experimenting with this diet)
- Balance Macros “on cycle” (40/30/30)
- Total cycles to date: 3
- Last cycle results: wks1-13: 625mg Test E, wks1-5: 30mg dbol ed, Adex .5 ed
Peak Test Levels 4049 ng/dL
Total weight gained: 19 lbs
Solid gains retained after returning BF to 12-13%: 9 lbs

Thank You

 

[GotTren]

New to the Forum, thank you for all the info so far. I’ve been on TRT for several years now and over the last 2 years I started to add in an occasional cycle. All 3 times were a basic 12-13 week bulk cycle (Test E & Dbol). I got blood work in the middle of every cycle and 4 weeks after to make sure all hormones and lipids were dialed in. I feel like I have a good grasp on test E and dbol and how my body responds but I’ve only done these bulk cycles. Now I’m thinking about a CUT CYCLE. Would love to get suggestions from you all for best first cut cycle. Here is my info:
- 36 years old
- 6’1”
- 208 lbs
- 12-13% BF
- Higher protein Keto “off cycle TRT” (5/35/60) (still experimenting with this diet)
- Balance Macros “on cycle” (40/30/30)
- Total cycles to date: 3
- Last cycle results: wks1-13: 625mg Test E, wks1-5: 30mg dbol ed, Adex .5 ed
Peak Test Levels 4049 ng/dL
Total weight gained: 19 lbs
Solid gains retained after returning BF to 12-13%: 9 lbs

Thank You

Hello and welcome. Let me just say thank you for including all your information and history with your goal upfront. What test are you on with your trt, cyp? Did you want to add in a different test to your cut cycle?


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[Sparky42]

Hello and welcome. Let me just say thank you for including all your information and history with your goal upfront. What test are you on with your trt, cyp? Did you want to add in a different test to your cut cycle?


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My TRT is with Test E. I'm open to different forms of test but more interested in experimenting with new compounds (Tren, mast, var, etc.)

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[GotTren]

My TRT is with Test E. I'm open to different forms of test but more interested in experimenting with new compounds (Tren, mast, var, etc.)

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I gotcha, didn't know if ya wanted to increase test or not, but I wouldn't a trt dose is all I use when I run other anabolics just to keep everything functional. Now cutting is my specialty. As long as your diet and training is in check you'll be ready for a good drug cycle. Here's the break down.

One more thing don't know how long your wanting to run, so I'm using 10 weeks as a default.

Test e - trt dose
Eq 1-10
Tren ace 5-10
Masteron 1-10
Var 6-10
Winny 6-10
Aromasin 12.5 eod

If I was straight up cutting and nothing else that's what I run. I generally bulk then cut on the same cycle, to clean up the gains.



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[BigZ]

Looks like an awesome cycle. GotTren knows his stuff.

 

[GotTren]

Looks like an awesome cycle. GotTren knows his stuff.

I have my bachelors in roidz and ancillaries, not masters yet. Thanks big!!


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[yellow snow]

Test e - trt dose
Eq 1-10
Tren ace 5-10
Masteron 1-10
Var 6-10
Winny 6-10
Aromasin 12.5 eod

If I was straight up cutting and nothing else that's what I run. I generally bulk then cut on the same cycle, to clean up the gains.



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Question for you:

Why Var and winny, I have always heard one or the other, do you feel they are complimentary; if so how?

 

[GotTren]

Well here is the beauty to this combo..Var has amazing collegen and elastin synthesis "fibrous glycoprotein properties" (which is found in connective tissue)..So when adding winny and joint related issues are a concern, Var will simply combat that as you achieve a HARDER,LEANER more VASCULAR look..

I know a shit ton of solids that run low dose var with tren,drol,winny, an so on when joints are a concern with either drying out of load issue..

Running high dose var is not always optimal for everyone's wallet, but you can still yield and experience great effects at a lower dosage with the addition of winny...Conciser it like a "Gear Hack" so to speak..Var has some great potential at low and moderate dosages, the whole notion that high dosage is where it's at is plain silliness, a matter of fact 80+ mgs of good legit var can posses debilitating pumps, but wow it can be fun long as you Load up on taurine and potassium, and your aminos along with H2O!


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[yellow snow]

Well here is the beauty to this combo..Var has amazing collegen and elastin synthesis "fibrous glycoprotein properties" (which is found in connective tissue)..So when adding winny and joint related issues are a concern, Var will simply combat that as you achieve a HARDER,LEANER more VASCULAR look..

I know a shit ton of solids that run low dose var with tren,drol,winny, an so on when joints are a concern with either drying out of load issue..

Running high dose var is not always optimal for everyone's wallet, but you can still yield and experience great effects at a lower dosage with the addition of winny...Conciser it like a "Gear Hack" so to speak..Var has some great potential at low and moderate dosages, the whole notion that high dosage is where it's at is plain silliness, a matter of fact 80+ mgs of good legit var can posses debilitating pumps, but wow it can be fun long as you Load up on taurine and potassium, and your aminos along with H2O!


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Great responce, I think most guys out there love winny but shy away from it do to joint issues...............this info will be a game changer.

You may want to start a new thread since it is kinda hidden.....I thought I was fairly well versed on the subject and I learned something tonight.

Thanks again, I am feeling more powerful already with your Knowledge!!

 

[GotTren]

Great responce, I think most guys out there love winny but shy away from it do to joint issues...............this info will be a game changer.

You may want to start a new thread since it is kinda hidden.....I thought I was fairly well versed on the subject and I learned something tonight.

Thanks again, I am feeling more powerful already with your Knowledge!!

Thank you sir. It is my signature haha. But yes a very synergistic combo. I know when you think winny, immediately dry joints., with var it lubricates so there isn't an issue anymore. I've done it


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[yellow snow]

Thank you sir. It is my signature haha. But yes a very synergistic combo. I know when you think winny, immediately dry joints., with var it lubricates so there isn't an issue anymore. I've done it


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I am one of the lucky ones that has no joint issues with winny, but almost everyone my age has stopped using winny due to the joint issues.

 

[GotTren]

I don't get joint issues either because I drink close to 2 gallons on h2o a day and also load up on vit b6-12, taurine, electrolytes and potassium daily


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