Need veteran advice coming off long cycle

[pitfowl1983]

Here's the deal in the past year I've only been off 5 weeks and I did the clomid nolva pct...currently I've been on since November ran test and eq cycle, at the moment I am on test and DNP will be adding t3 as soon as it comes in the mail....what I'm asking is I happen to have 5 bottles of tren ace just laying around and was wondering if I should toss it in with the dnp t3...I'm gonna dnp a total of 3 weeks then off for a couple then 3 more weeks while running t3 the whole time, wanted to add the tren for catabolic reasons and run it until after the t3 is out of my system and normal production has started again then go into pct.....or should I leave the tren alone because "here's the kicker" me and the gf want a little human so is the tren gonna make it harder for my test production to start back up or since I've been on so long it can't make it any worse than it is.....just looking for advice being she is coming off birth control June 1st and I wanna be ready....I have not used hcg ever and yes my nuts have shrank and by that I mean my scotum is deflated..

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[Muscle mechanic]

Here's the deal in the past year I've only been off 5 weeks and I did the clomid nolva pct...currently I've been on since November ran test and eq cycle, at the moment I am on test and DNP will be adding t3 as soon as it comes in the mail....what I'm asking is I happen to have 5 bottles of tren ace just laying around and was wondering if I should toss it in with the dnp t3...I'm gonna dnp a total of 3 weeks then off for a couple then 3 more weeks while running t3 the whole time, wanted to add the tren for catabolic reasons and run it until after the t3 is out of my system and normal production has started again then go into pct.....or should I leave the tren alone because "here's the kicker" me and the gf want a little human so is the tren gonna make it harder for my test production to start back up or since I've been on so long it can't make it any worse than it is.....just looking for advice being she is coming off birth control June 1st and I wanna be ready....I have not used hcg ever and yes my nuts have shrank and by that I mean my scotum is deflated..

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I will take a look later. I can tell u this much. I am on trt been needing it couldn't come back anymore.
I am 40 my son is 3-1/2. I took it was off cycle and had pcted. Had stayed off for like 8 months. One more kid was plan. I got proviron for its fertility boosting properties and bam we had our son.
All I can say is u better start giving a little more than equal time off. And if u want kids and u been on that long then u need a long break. Test levels in 3 months see where u are then again in 6.

I am grateful we had that last little rascal. Thank God!

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[pitfowl1983]

I plan on being off until she conceives or next winter whichever is the longest....I've got clomid and nolva just wonder if I should add anything else and if I should run the tren or save it for next time....5 bottles of tren just sitting there is like being hit on by a naked supermodel.....you know you wanna tap it

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[Muscle mechanic]

I plan on being off until she conceives or next winter whichever is the longest....I've got clomid and nolva just wonder if I should add anything else and if I should run the tren or save it for next time....5 bottles of tren just sitting there is like being hit on by a naked supermodel.....you know you wanna tap it

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Get rid of the tren. Someone would be glad to even trade u for it. U know what I mean. Get rid of all gear in Stock.
I always pcted. Always and stayed off for at least 2-3 months then on 8-12 weeks.
I was in some of the best shape of my life off gear I never stopped working out.
I was ripped with muscle and never missed a workout with testosterone levels at 150 and less for over a year.
Before our last kid I was off for last kid to have and I knew my time was running out. The proviron I took for added libido and cause I felt like shit plus it's known to boost sperm guys with low testosterone have low sperm volumes and fertile count.
Proviron want do u any good until u have recovered and it needs to be exactly that or u may shut yourself down.
I got back on when she was 5 months pregnant and I stayed on cycle then he had to stay in icu for 6 weeks. Had to take him out early attached inside placenta acreta. He is now healthy and smart as can be. Our daughter is almost 10. Son 3.
After he was born in came off that cycle couldn't recover wife made me trt appointment. She saw about it for me.

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[Muscle mechanic]

I guess my wife figured he stayed off for me to get pregnant. She watched me suffer literally and she watched me do everything I can to bring back my testosterone before son and after. Plus for years she watched me pct and it got to point I couldn't recover I stayed low testosterone and I would get on not even to cycle just to feel normal

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[pitfowl1983]

Have some stuff for trade if intrested send me a message

 

[Muscle mechanic]

Pitfowl, if she wants a kid and u want a kid then know that it's best to get recovered completely. I don't know if u have any kids but they are the best thing in world.
As men we get complacent in our lives and this happens because we were meant to be father's and raise kids have a family.
I know some of us here haven't had opportunity but I also have step kids and I love them same.

Don't know what will come of your deal with the gear for trade I would edit and post a wicker Id maybe mentioning u have somethings that u want to trade. To contact wicker Id if interested.
Are local gym rats may be interested.
Regardless u can still workout if u love doing it and get a high with heart racing while catching that pump.
Push on lifting, stay focused on having kid. And make sure this woman is who u trust to raise kids with. Breakups with kids involved can be nasty. Plus I once knew a guy who had a baby while on gear except he found out more when we all told him there was no way he can have a kid on the blast he had been running...
Anyway do your pct if this woman is right for u. Have your kid and next time u cycle keep it down to 10-12 weeks and time off starts after pct the 4 weeks of pct don't count as time off.
10 week cycle 4 weeks pct then at least 10 weeks off for example!
U can take ostarine four weeks at a time during your time off and only at recommend doses and still remain fertile but if yall want kids do nothing till she is pregnant.
U got your wish u can have sex as much as possible with her now until she is pregnant. And one other thing. In 2nd trimester she will Wanna do it all the time!

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[pitfowl1983]

Thanks for the input, I am 33 no kids have wanted them for years but the ex wife didn't and that was one of our reasons we split. This girl is 28 no kids got her education first and now makes a good living at what she does she is ready and so am I.

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[Muscle mechanic]

Thanks for the input, I am 33 no kids have wanted them for years but the ex wife didn't and that was one of our reasons we split. This girl is 28 no kids got her education first and now makes a good living at what she does she is ready and so am I.

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Hey we still having fun with the thread on slowing down sex drive. But like I said u can do it all u want till she is pregnant. Get fertility it should come in about 6-8 weeks.

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[Muscle mechanic]

I did it brother more than once. I am 40 oldest one 10 youngest 3. I ran gear for 20 years cycling. I stopped 8 months till we had our son, she got pregnant. I knew I needed trt and went ahead and tried till it happened and my testosterone was low and I felt like shit. But it was well worth it.

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[pitfowl1983]

Hey we still having fun with the thread on slowing down sex drive. But like I said u can do it all u want till she is pregnant. Get fertility it should come in about 6-8 weeks.

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That only lasted a little while she is back on the train now, hell she damn near raped me last night

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[Muscle mechanic]

That only lasted a little while she is back on the train now, hell she damn near raped me last night

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She must really love u! Put the gear aside and give yourself a bigger treat in life and her too of coarse. Do it now u wanna be there for your kids. My kids are the reason I get up in morning and go to work even when I don't want to.
Instead of getting myself things I want them to have more. It's something u will never regret and if u don't then u will have regret! U doing the right thing keep it up!

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[pitfowl1983]

She must really love u! Put the gear aside and give yourself a bigger treat in life and her too of coarse. Do it now u wanna be there for your kids. My kids are the reason I get up in morning and go to work even when I don't want to.
Instead of getting myself things I want them to have more. It's something u will never regret and if u don't then u will have regret! U doing the right thing keep it up!

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She does love me more than any other woman ever has, here lately she hasn't liked me cutting though, she has always dated small guys and I have the power lifter body type big and bulky but no definition and she absolutely loves that about me why i don't know...I'm cutting to get more definition she thinks I'm gonna lose it all and be skinny lol she hates that....but I don't know how I landed her. She has a masters from ole miss comes from money and the sweetest thing ever, I'm just a broke corrections sgt...this girl would follow me anywhere.

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[Cyber-Suppz]

She does love me more than any other woman ever has, here lately she hasn't liked me cutting though, she has always dated small guys and I have the power lifter body type big and bulky but no definition and she absolutely loves that about me why i don't know...I'm cutting to get more definition she thinks I'm gonna lose it all and be skinny lol she hates that....but I don't know how I landed her. She has a masters from ole miss comes from money and the sweetest thing ever, I'm just a broke corrections sgt...this girl would follow me anywhere.

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That's really awesome brother. Family first, you won't regret it.

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[Muscle mechanic]

Hey pitfowl, what is your regimen that u will use for this pct?
If it were me I would do a power pct.
Clomid 100mg 2-3 weeks if u can u can take 300mg first 5 days 200mg another few days then 50 for remainder.
A total of 5 weeks clomid therapy
Nolvadex 40 mg for first 2-3 then 20mg for rest total of 5 weeks.
Also u can continue clomid therapy at low dose for several months depending on
Total testosterone and free testosterone an blood test.
I have heard and know igf-1lr3
Is and would be great addition
Also ghrp2-or 6. With cjc1293(modified gfr 1-29)
The protocol on the ghrp and cjc would be either 2 or 3 times a day 100-200 mcg per each at a time. I think it's been a while but I used both with good results. Igf would make them work better.

If u can get gh it will be better than the 2 combo peptides but u will shut off your own natural production unlike the 2 combo which instead would increase your own production rather than suppress.

The idea here in your case is to restore body to homeostasis!!!

Let me know what u gonna do.
And how you bounce back. I was able to bounce back enough my last go round to have my last kid but not enough to even be in lower reference range.

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[Muscle mechanic]

Hey pitfowl, what is your regimen that u will use for this pct?
If it were me I would do a power pct.
Clomid 100mg 2-3 weeks if u can u can take 300mg first 5 days 200mg another few days then 50 for remainder.
A total of 5 weeks clomid therapy
Nolvadex 40 mg for first 2-3 then 20mg for rest total of 5 weeks.
Also u can continue clomid therapy at low dose for several months depending on
Total testosterone and free testosterone an blood test.
I have heard and know igf-1lr3
Is and would be great addition
Also ghrp2-or 6. With cjc1293(modified gfr 1-29)
The protocol on the ghrp and cjc would be either 2 or 3 times a day 100-200 mcg per each at a time. I think it's been a while but I used both with good results. Igf would make them work better.

If u can get gh it will be better than the 2 combo peptides but u will shut off your own natural production unlike the 2 combo which instead would increase your own production rather than suppress.

The idea here in your case is to restore body to homeostasis!!!

Let me know what u gonna do.
And how you bounce back. I was able to bounce back enough my last go round to have my last kid but not enough to even be in lower reference range.

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[pitfowl1983]

Ok I will do....I have igf on the way currently worked a trade out....I have clomid but only 30 50mg pills....I have a ton of nolva...the clomid I learned makes me really emotional if more than 50mg a day but will get some more and try it again.

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[Muscle mechanic]

Ok I will do....I have igf on the way currently worked a trade out....I have clomid but only 30 50mg pills....I have a ton of nolva...the clomid I learned makes me really emotional if more than 50mg a day but will get some more and try it again.

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The thing about the clomid is that it works better. Don't care what anyone says, it works better period.
Take 100 for first week or two at least
Nolva 40 for 2 and 20 for 2 at least

Clomid is used by Dr's in this country to stimulate and raise testosterone and sperm production and fertility.
It's used before trt in alot of cases depending on dr. And it sometimes can bring a guy in low range to top of range and stimulate changes in body that remain that way after clomid therapy is stopped.

Sometimes reading something like emotional tendencies will create that.
That is same reason placebo group is always involved in trails because our mind thinking something alot of times will make us have it. Especially in side effects.
Gear can cause emotional changes related to hormones coming off gear can do same with or without clomid.
The sides of gear or for more worse on every measured aspects from comparing to clomid so tell your that instead. That is what I have done!!!

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[JackSteel]

I will take a look later. I can tell u this much. I am on trt been needing it couldn't come back anymore.
I am 40 my son is 3-1/2. I took it was off cycle and had pcted. Had stayed off for like 8 months. One more kid was plan. I got proviron for its fertility boosting properties and bam we had our son.
All I can say is u better start giving a little more than equal time off. And if u want kids and u been on that long then u need a long break. Test levels in 3 months see where u are then again in 6.

I am grateful we had that last little rascal. Thank God!

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I agree you need to cycle a bit smarter if you want kids. I had kids ON tren but I wasn't trying and I hadn't been on as long as you. Hit the HCG and typical nolva clomid PCT but do HCG before pct. HCG can suppress LH if you use it too long. You shouldn't need too much though. 2 weeks of HCG ought to get you back. Then start pct and see where your levels are at.


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[JackSteel]

The thing about the clomid is that it works better. Don't care what anyone says, it works better period.
Take 100 for first week or two at least
Nolva 40 for 2 and 20 for 2 at least

Clomid is used by Dr's in this country to stimulate and raise testosterone and sperm production and fertility.
It's used before trt in alot of cases depending on dr. And it sometimes can bring a guy in low range to top of range and stimulate changes in body that remain that way after clomid therapy is stopped.

Sometimes reading something like emotional tendencies will create that.
That is same reason placebo group is always involved in trails because our mind thinking something alot of times will make us have it. Especially in side effects.
Gear can cause emotional changes related to hormones coming off gear can do same with or without clomid.
The sides of gear or for more worse on every measured aspects from comparing to clomid so tell your that instead. That is what I have done!!!

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Lol true but I dunno man, I had some random crying sessions in movies while on clomid [emoji23]


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