Advice on a short steroid cycle (56 days)

[newbbuser]

Hello everyone,
I would like to run a short-cycle like this (it complies with Rea's protocols):
day 1-14: Test Enanthate 150mg daily + DBol 60 first day, 60 second day, 50, 50, 40, 40, 30, 30...until day 14th
day 15-28: Deca Undecanoate 200mg daily + Insulin 5UI post workout + GH 4UI daily + T3 75 mcg daily
day 29-30: Insulin 5UI post workout + GH 4UI daily + T3 75 mcg daily
day 31-42: Clomid 100 + Proviron 150 + Insulin 5UI post workout + GH 4UI daily + T3 75 mcg daily
day 43-56: Clomid 50 + Proviron 50 + Insulin 4UI post workout

days 1-28: androgenic phase
days 15-42: anabolic phase
days 31-56: cortisol suppression

What do you think of it? As far as I'm concerned it relies too heavily on insulin and I would like to keep its usage to a minimum. How would you sort it?
Thanks

 

[Iron Game]

Welcome to MC. Thats a hell of a first post. We like to get more information before we give cycle advice. What is your cycle history? How long have you been training? What are your physical stats?

Just some notes

I am not big on advising insulin use. What is your insulin history? Are you ramping up and down with the T3? For such a short cycle why are you using Test E and Deca instead of Test P and NPP?

 

[newbbuser]

Hi,
I've run several cycles up to now (5 years to date) and I've used most of the compounds available (winstrol, test, tren, dian, oxand, etc). I've also used insulin twice last year twice a day: in the morning and pre-workout but I reckon that the diet was a little too heavy on the carbs side and I accumulated a little fat.
At the moment I have Test E and Deca U available but I think that it should not make much difference because with a load phase the levels of drugs in the blood should reach the desired threshold quite quickly.

I would appreciate your feedback and possible changes on the protocol.
Regards

 

[IFEARSKINNYME]

Why just 56 days, can much be accomplished in that duration as pretty much most compounds take at least 3-4 weeks to even begin to be utilized for their intentions and purpose. It normally takes me 90 days to get the body up to speed then I'll take 5-10 days off them hit it for 90 more to build in the previous 90 then keep repeating this regime

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[Husky1]

i always thought to get anything out of GH, you need a long time commitment..

 

[bigdaddyo1617]

Why just 56 days, can much be accomplished in that duration as pretty much most compounds take at least 3-4 weeks to even begin to be utilized for their intentions and purpose. It normally takes me 90 days to get the body up to speed then I'll take 5-10 days off them hit it for 90 more to build in the previous 90 then keep repeating this regime

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hey brutha am I understanding this rite your taking 5- 10 days off between to cycles?

 

[newbbuser]

I keep it 56 days (8 weeks) to lower the sides, be less time on, have better HTPA recovery, better gains and repeat the cycle several times in a row.
Mr. Rea says that after 4 weeks the body reacts to the meds and send the signals to go back to homeostasis. I've personally seen that after 6 or 7 weeks my body gets accustomed to the gear and unless I up the dose very little gains are drawn from the remaining weeks.
Has anyone tried the protocol above?

 

[IFEARSKINNYME]

Yes, I always get out of the gym to stay in control and rest, recharge, refocus, have a couple donuts,as we know the gym is addicting but I control it, it doesn't control me

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[Iron Game]

I keep it 56 days (8 weeks) to lower the sides, be less time on, have better HTPA recovery, better gains and repeat the cycle several times in a row.
Mr. Rea says that after 4 weeks the body reacts to the meds and send the signals to go back to homeostasis. I've personally seen that after 6 or 7 weeks my body gets accustomed to the gear and unless I up the dose very little gains are drawn from the remaining weeks.
Has anyone tried the protocol above?

I have not. It is interesting though. I have heard a lot lately about short blasts but as I recall it was 3-4 weeks and short esters.

 

[Iron Game]

Are you going to cruse when you finish or do you come of completely?

 

[BigZ]

Hello everyone,
I would like to run a short-cycle like this (it complies with Rea's protocols):
day 1-14: Test Enanthate 150mg daily + DBol 60 first day, 60 second day, 50, 50, 40, 40, 30, 30...until day 14th
day 15-28: Deca Undecanoate 200mg daily + Insulin 5UI post workout + GH 4UI daily + T3 75 mcg daily
day 29-30: Insulin 5UI post workout + GH 4UI daily + T3 75 mcg daily
day 31-42: Clomid 100 + Proviron 150 + Insulin 5UI post workout + GH 4UI daily + T3 75 mcg daily
day 43-56: Clomid 50 + Proviron 50 + Insulin 4UI post workout

days 1-28: androgenic phase
days 15-42: anabolic phase
days 31-56: cortisol suppression

What do you think of it? As far as I'm concerned it relies too heavily on insulin and I would like to keep its usage to a minimum. How would you sort it?
Thanks

I've read through some of Rea's protocols, they seem interesting to me. The slin use of 5 IU is actually not much. When I first used insulin, 5 IU was next to nothing, didn't really feel it. Is this cycle adapted in its dosages or is it mainly from one of Rea's suggested cycles?

 

[Masher59]

I never use Deca long ester for less that 16 weeks. Also as stated above you have a long ester test also that I would use for at least 12 weeks. Insulin I use 10-15iu early morning then early afternoon 10-15iu again.

For a short cycle if you like test and Deca then use Test Prop and NPP. Toss in your oral or don't because you will feel this quickly anyway.

My favorite short cycle is Test P and Tren Ace with Tbol oral on the front end and finish it with winny and var.

 

[newbbuser]

Hi,
the cycle is mainly taken from Rea's protocol.
I would like to know if anyone has ever used such protocol and if it's possible to start over on day 57th (begin with the cycle once again after 8 weeks).
Besides, if I use long ester like Test Ena, should I do a front load?

 

[bigdaddyo1617]

I never use Deca long ester for less that 16 weeks. Also as stated above you have a long ester test also that I would use for at least 12 weeks. Insulin I use 10-15iu early morning then early afternoon 10-15iu again.

For a short cycle if you like test and Deca then use Test Prop and NPP. Toss in your oral or don't because you will feel this quickly anyway.

My favorite short cycle is Test P and Tren Ace with Tbol oral on the front end and finish it with winny and var.

what was the dosage for that short cycle

 

[Masher59]

what was the dosage for that short cycle

Depends on how much Tren Ace you can stand really. All are EOD 75/75, 100/100 and so on but I like 150/150 or even test p 100/tren a 150. Tbol 50mg split ED and on the end 120mg Winny a day split and 100mg Var split each day.

 

[bigdaddyo1617]

Depends on how much Tren Ace you can stand really. All are EOD 75/75, 100/100 and so on but I like 150/150 or even test p 100/tren a 150. Tbol 50mg split ED and on the end 120mg Winny a day split and 100mg Var split each day.

Sounds good thanks

 

[newbbuser]

Hi,
I would like to know your thoughts on the cycle I posted without going off on a tangent.
I appreciate that, thanks.

 

[newbbuser]

Bump

 

[charliebigspuds]

I've not seen this long ester short cycle before.
Could you shed some light in your thinking only 3 days before pct begins. with a long ester like you are using I would not be even thinking about pct for at least 3 weeks. Now if you was using prop I could understand 3-5 days before pct.

 

[charliebigspuds]

I had to have a google to make sure I was right
undeconate has a longer half life than Deconate and enthate making it the longest ester you can have. Maybe I'm missing something here could you post link to said log/cycle I would like to educate my self.
Also not everything you read is true. But like I said I'm happy to educate my self.