Sexual problems after winstrol - help me (re-post)

[dionpbms]

There was a problem after my reply, so I post again my problem.

sorry for my english isn't perfect cause I'm from Italy.
I'm 32 years old, never have sexual problems, always high libido, high long erection, big ejaculation.

I started around 15 days ago, Winstrol.
6mg capsule, two times every day (three caps just the last days).

Just stop few days ago cause I was a little bit sick. I've took some FANS and when I was good I drink some alcol with a girl, and I go with her to have sex.
I had sex the day before with no problems. I like her, my dick was working, but just a second later, it stop. I didn't feel nothing between my legs. It was tragicomic, I was so afraid, it never happen to me before in my life.

I contact my doctor, he said that I have to inject "Gonasi" (should be HGC in english after search the web) three times in 10 days, and my problem will be solved even from the first injection, cause the winstrol I've took was low dosage, for a low time, and that my testosterone level was so high, and will be maybe fast to recovery.

But I still afraid, my dick still doesn't work, even I see girls that I like (usually I had really easy erection).

What do you think about? Will be the gonasi therapy good?
Can I add some natural remedy like epimedium, Muira puama marapuama or L-Arginina?

About gonasi doc said every 3 days 2000 ui, 3 times.
I've read on the web that is better to do something different like
day 1 2000
day 2
day 3
day 4 1000
day 5
day 6 1000
day 7
day 8 500
day 9 250
day 10 250

to avoid that the testo "aromatizza" (I don't know the word in english, means that it convert in extrogens) and would work better.

my bb friends said that low dosage and low time just shut down my natural test for a while, and i'm too afraid. but i still afraid of what happen to me (I still don't have sexual inputs/motivation after two days)

what you think about? it's ok with gonasi? can i use also together some herbs natural remedy?
thanks

 

[drtbear1967]

Just in my opinion, but if you have only been taking 12mg of Winstrol a day for 15 days, it didn't do this to you. I know people that run Winstrol at 50 and 100 mg a day for weeks and except from not issues with their joints, that is it. The HCG will get you going if your test was off the charts and you are post cycle but you should not have a problem getting an erection.

 

[BigZ]

HCG (Gonasi) is mostly used to become fertile again. Using HCG by itself helps to bring back natural testosterone production if you stopped using testosterone on a cycle, but it won't do a whole lot for libido unless your testosterone increases a lot from using it. Your doc is correct on the dosage of 2000 iu every 3 days. Reducing the dosage would not help you. BUT, in my opinion, you would be better off using some Cialis (tadalafil) to help you have a stronger erection if that is what you want. All testosterone aromatizes (aromatizza), and it is normal for this to occur with your natural production. I doubt that you will have enough extra testosterone to aromatize from using HCG.

 

[drtbear1967]

HCG (Gonasi) is mostly used to become fertile again. Using HCG by itself helps to bring back natural testosterone production if you stopped using testosterone on a cycle, but it won't do a whole lot for libido unless your testosterone increases a lot from using it. Your doc is correct on the dosage of 2000 iu every 3 days. Reducing the dosage would not help you. BUT, in my opinion, you would be better off using some Cialis (tadalafil) to help you have a stronger erection if that is what you want. All testosterone aromatizes (aromatizza), and it is normal for this to occur with your natural production. I doubt that you will have enough extra testosterone to aromatize from using HCG.

Do you think with his dosage and only using 15 days that his ED is caused from the Winnie?

 

[BigZ]

At only that much on the dosage, no, but whatever the cause and depending on what his bloodwork shows (considering he didn't say anything about that), he could still likely benefit from HCG and definitely benefit from Cialis. The doc did want to give HCG to him.

 

[dionpbms]

(I hope some of the followings words are right cause I don't use often in english, and I have to translate with google translator)
I did blood exams before starting winstrol. My doctor said that they were perfect, with a very good level of natural testosterone. But nitrogen (in italian, azoto), was low, from urine exams, that means that my muscles tend to be catabolic, and that with winstrol I'll solve this problem.

I've never had erection or sexual problems before. I have the opposite problem, that I have to much sexual drive, and sometimes too many erections, even I don't want it.
Is also the first time in my life that I try steroids. So they must be connected.
I have to say that I took some FANS (anti-inflammatory) cause I was sick, and the day after I've drink a good quantity of alcol. I don't know if it works bad together.

It's the first time in my life that if I see a girl that I like, I don't have a sexual drive to her, and I don't feel nothing down there. And also I don't have erection (I just had this morning).

I tell everything to my doctor and he said: "was a low dosage, but it can happen cause you have a high testo level, and cause was your first time of winstrol, that your testicles are getting smaller and your body isn't producing more testo, so you have less sexual drive and less erections, you take gonasi for three times and everything should be normal again". I hope so! LOL
I must say that I'm afraid, maybe for a bb that usually do cycles is normal to have periods like this.

 

[Masher59]

I've taken 120mg of winny per day for 4 weeks and never had any dick issues.

Here's my advice get you some test p 100 and pin a ml of it monday, wednesday and friday. If your dick won't get hard by the weekend then something is seriously wrong.

 

[adikul01]

No one giving good advice except masher. You have to take test if inhaling winny. It will permanent shut down your system. Hcg is last step when you final your cycle to become fertile again.

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[dionpbms]

I didn't take take testo cause my doctor didn't prescribed it to me.

I've finish now the winstrol. My friends who took said that sometimes happen also to them, but wich so low dosage the shut down can take few days.
Yesterday I have again erection and had sex, but was not good as always is. But I'm less afraid now.

So I'm gonna take 3 gonasi 2000, I can't take testo without doctor prescription.. Would be hard to find. And I ask the doc, he said I don't have to take it cause my problem is very small.

 

[adikul01]

I didn't take take testo cause my doctor didn't prescribed it to me.

I've finish now the winstrol. My friends who took said that sometimes happen also to them, but wich so low dosage the shut down can take few days.
Yesterday I have again erection and had sex, but was not good as always is. But I'm less afraid now.

So I'm gonna take 3 gonasi 2000, I can't take testo without doctor prescription.. Would be hard to find. And I ask the doc, he said I don't have to take it cause my problem is very small.

Bribe is evergreen option my friend

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[Miguels]

I didn't take take testo cause my doctor didn't prescribed it to me.

I've finish now the winstrol. My friends who took said that sometimes happen also to them, but wich so low dosage the shut down can take few days.
Yesterday I have again erection and had sex, but was not good as always is. But I'm less afraid now.

So I'm gonna take 3 gonasi 2000, I can't take testo without doctor prescription.. Would be hard to find. And I ask the doc, he said I don't have to take it cause my problem is very small.

was that a pun?

 

[dionpbms]

was that a pun?

LOOOL
this is great...

so it's fun too that someone said "it's hard to have that problem with such so low dosage", and someone say "permanent shut down".
I'm pretty sure both are extremly visions wrong.
I'm not expert, but my testo level was high before starting winstrol, so I'm sure 100% (ok let's say 99) that this is connect, but also that you can't permanent shut down with a low dosage of every kind of steroids or similar.

So I just hope this will solve soon. I know that maybe I'm more afraid then I should be, but as I told, is the first time that happen to me, so you can understand me.
Did today the first gonasi injection, like one hour ago, then go to the gym. Everything looks the same at the moment. But my libido/sex drive, today was a little better, even before injection.

- - - Updated - - -

inhaling winny

I take as capsule, 2x6mg every day (for around 15 days)

 

[dionpbms]

Want to add an information, that in my last blood exams before started win:
-testosterone: 8,97 ng/ml
-free testosterone 49,2 pg/mL
-somatomedina C 241 ng/ml

 

[Masher59]

Get you some online dude and don't worry bout that ole doctor that don't want to hook you up.

 

[dionpbms]

ok thanks! I don't understand very well the last part, but I think you mean my doc isn't so good.. I think so too.

just a fast summary:
sunday - last dosage of winstrol, libido so low, erection only in the morning
monday - nothing, just workout, at night my dick works, I had sex with a girl after a long foreplay, not as great levels, but was good and better then I expected
tuesday - erection when I meet a girl in the afternoon - evening first injection of HCG and workout - sex again after foreplay, similar level of monday

just some questions to those who follow my tragicomic story:
1) I've read on some sites that HCG is strong and have to be given if other tpc didn't work, and usually after a big cycle (but mine was low). But my doc suggest me only that one. Should I go on with other injections?
2) After having this problems with winstrol, and with this doctor too, wich could be my next steroid?

thanks guys again!

 

[Iron Game]

I was talking with you in the other thread that went MIA and wanted to follow up. I told you in that thread the dosage of winny could shut you down. The word is "could", many people are different when it comes to hormones. You sound like it may have for you. It should come back easy with the HCG. Here is some informatioon about 10mg a day shutting test levels down by 55% in 14 days.

PUBMED ARTICLE

[h=1]Alteration of hormone levels in normal males given the anabolic steroid stanozolol.[/h]Small M, Beastall GH, Semple CG, Cowan RA, Forbes CD.
[h=3]Abstract[/h]<abstracttext>Anabolic steroids have widespread metabolic effects but, to date, their proven clinical indications have been limited. Recently the 17 alpha-alkylated steroid, stanozolol, has been shown to be of value in a variety of commonly occurring vascular diseases. Its endocrine effects have received little attention and we have investigated the effect of administering a 14 d course of stanozolol (10 mg orally per day) on a variety of important hormonal pathways in nine healthy male subjects. Significant changes occurred as follows: a 55% reduction in serum testosterone levels was noted and was accompanied by reductions in 'derived' free testosterone, sex hormone binding globulin and LH levels; total T4 and T3 levels fell in association with a decrease in thyroxine binding globulin, but no alteration was detected in TSH or free T4 levels. Changes in vitamin D status, with falls in 25-hydroxycholecalciferol and vitamin D binding globulin were also observed. These effects were reversible on stopping treatment. Stanozolol therapy therefore leads to a number of hormonal changes, probably by an action at both pituitary and hepatic levels.</abstracttext>


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Moving forward-

Regarding your questions

1) Go with the HCG protocol the doctor gave you. Get blood work done to check and see if your natural testosterone levels are back to normal. Proceed accordingly.
2) If I was you I would talk to your doctor about getting a prescription for testosterone cyponate or testosterone enathate. IMO they are healthier options anyway.

 

[dionpbms]

All right, thanks!
I'm just afraid that take more stuff can cause even worst. I've read online many different opinions also about HCG
https://www.muscletalk.co.uk/articles/clomid-hcg.aspx

But your reply was the best one, cause you find something very close to my situation. So I'll go on with the HCG.

About the testosterone cyponate or testosterone enathate thanks for the tip, I'll ask about it, but not now, I'll wait for a while before my situation will be ok

 

[dionpbms]

I was just think about, as you can see in the link, to divide the next HGC injections in small dosages. You think could be better?
Or cause I've started as 2000 I should go with it?