Bulking & Cutting Cycle For beginner

[bhatisahab]

Hi

Below is my Details.

Age:- 29
Hight:- 174 Centimeter
Weight:- 165 Pound
Body Fat:- 15%

I want to know about bigneer steroid cycle for bulking and cutting, I lost 10 KG body fat in 4 months and gained 3 KG muscle mass.

now i want to get little more gain with proper cut and currently i am doing heavy weight training.

as i heard a lot about steroid side effects so wanna discuss on this forum to get knowledge and also to know your experience.

In my location people scared and feel shy to discuss about steroid if they are using and some don't wanna tell bcoz may some other guy get better body as compare to him and some are asking hell lots of money lot of money means price of the steroid multiplies by 50 which i cant afford and simply who gonna pay extra.

so guys i seeking help and also wanna know your experience.

Hope this members in this forum gonna help me out.

your time and help is greatly appreciated.

 

[Iron Game]

Hi

Below is my Details.

Age:- 29
Hight:- 174 Centimeter
Weight:- 165 Pound
Body Fat:- 15%

I want to know about bigneer steroid cycle for bulking and cutting, I lost 10 KG body fat in 4 months and gained 3 KG muscle mass.

now i want to get little more gain with proper cut and currently i am doing heavy weight training.

as i heard a lot about steroid side effects so wanna discuss on this forum to get knowledge and also to know your experience.

In my location people scared and feel shy to discuss about steroid if they are using and some don't wanna tell bcoz may some other guy get better body as compare to him and some are asking hell lots of money lot of money means price of the steroid multiplies by 50 which i cant afford and simply who gonna pay extra.

so guys i seeking help and also wanna know your experience.

Hope this members in this forum gonna help me out.

your time and help is greatly appreciated.

Sorry I missed your post earlier.

How long have you been training total? You sound like your doing great naturally. I wouldn't recommend using AAS untill you have a few consistant years of traing under your belt and hit a stickung point.

After all that the first cycle I would recommend to anyone would be testosterone e or test c 300mg 1x a week for 14 weeks.

You need to get comfortable and do a lot of research here at MuscleChemistry.com.

Look up PCT and AI's

Don't start anything untill you are ready to commit.

About bulking or cutting that is largely determined by you diet.

Welcome to MuscleChemistry

 

[bhatisahab]

Hi Iron,

i have been working out from past 2 years but this time from march i become serious about my workout.

in march 2017 my weight was 183 pound and body fat 41 pound around 23% and now i am 165 pound and body fat is 22 pound around 15% this i have calculated one month back from machine.

in this period i lost 5 inch tummy but not i got stuck at 37 inch no difference in last 30 days.

so i thought to take of steroid but couldn't found guide to help me with this.

 

[drtbear1967]

Welcome to MC. It sounds like you are making great progress, I just wonder why you are looking to gear right now?

 

[pgb]

i'm not nearly as up on this game as irongame and drtbear, but you sound like you're doing great being a natty. i can understand wanting a ped to help yourself along, but even if you're at a plateau right now. consider a lot of research before endeavoring into steroids. i was a natty until i hit 58. the only i reason i started was because i have/had very low-t. in my youth i considered it, but never did. i just stuck with training. lifting, a whole lot of lifting, as heavy as i could go.
one thing to definitely think about is how gear is going to affect you in the long run. it will shut down your natural production of test and it can take some time to get it back when you cease, even with a pct.
i'm not saying don't do it, i'm saying don't rush in. at least you've waited until you've gotten a little older to consider it. you can look at gear profiles here, but i with irongame on this. start with just test e or c. i started with sus myself, and it was right for me, imo.

 

[Iron Game]

Like pgb and drtbear said. Your doing great naturally. Keep it up

Let us know what you decide. We are here to help either way.

 

[bhatisahab]

Hi All,

i am still confused whether shall i take it or not, i have little scarred for taking steroids and just recently married but now i am very serious about body training never thought about any competition i am in IT domian i have done little research about steroid but that is mix experience like effects and side effects.

I know one thing is that access of any thing has bad so i don't wanna go for repeating cycle, if i start then only once as of now then i wanna maintain naturally

below is the cycle which i get it by my online research

test-E+Deca+Dianabol cycle but not sure whether this cycle is good or not


I saw result in my body but not sure whether what i am doing that is good or not or whether i need to continue or i have to change my schedule or diet.

currently i am taking protein 180 gm raw protein (stopped taking powder protein from past 10 days earlier i am taking muscle tech:- Nitro tech) and carbs also 180 daily one muscle exercise 7 variation 50 counts per variation (15-15-10-10) after that 10 min cardio(incline 12 and speed 7) then alternate day abs and daily plank(normal+Both Side)

but my tummy got stuck at 37 inch from last 45 days. biceps 14.5 inch, chest 42 inch, back 15 inch.

As of now still i am in dilemma whether i have to start cycle or not kindly let me know product and what what medicine i have to keep while on cycle to keep when i see any side effect also what medicine i have to take for pct and how with dosage.

if i gonna start then i will start from august 1st week so after you suggestion about cycle+medicine for side effect and PCT i will 1st keep handy all then only i will start.

Hope you understand my point and really appreciate for your advice here in indian guys who took they never share their knowledge and experience, if they share thay will change as i mention in my 1st post that is very bi amount.

Thanks in advance to all.

 

[bhatisahab]

Hi Iron/pgb/drtbear,

finally i decided to start cycle, rather than thinking a lot.

Kindly let me know whether below stack is good or not i don't wanna take high doses.

currently i doing 245 pound dead lift, 132 lbs chest, 155 lbs squads (This Total weight)

Test-E 300 mg (150+150) two shots in week
deca- 200 mg (100+100) two shots in week
Dianabol- 23-30 mg

kindly help me with PCT and what medicine in hand is i saw any side effect and any other suggestion to make my nuts work properly

also help whether two shots is good or one shot a week is good also wanna know diet when i on cycle.

i will be starting this from 31st July monday

 

[Big Beef]

Hey man. I was looking into doing a stack very similar to this not long ago, but after speaking to the guys on here & taking a little more time to research, I ended up just doing test.

These guys were suggesting you to stay natty because the gains you could get before starting gear could help you a lot in the long run. If you are going to do it though, why not just start with test? Maybe the dbol or some other oral to kick start. You might get plenty of bulk from just doing that. I would save the deca for a later time, but that is just me. Taking a slower, safer approach could help you get more gains later.

You would definitely need an ai though, like arimidex. Maybe .5 mg eod, if estro increases are noticed. For pct, nolva & clomid

 

[Iron Game]

Hey man. I was looking into doing a stack very similar to this not long ago, but after speaking to the guys on here & taking a little more time to research, I ended up just doing test.

These guys were suggesting you to stay natty because the gains you could get before starting gear could help you a lot in the long run. If you are going to do it though, why not just start with test? Maybe the dbol or some other oral to kick start. You might get plenty of bulk from just doing that. I would save the deca for a later time, but that is just me. Taking a slower, safer approach could help you get more gains later.

You would definitely need an ai though, like arimidex. Maybe .5 mg eod, if estro increases are noticed. For pct, nolva & clomid

If you are going to do it anyway. I am 100% with Big Beef and save the Deca for next time.

If you can get what you want with the Test and Dbol why add any compound to complicate things?

You need to evaluate your response to the test before adding anything.

 

[Muscle mechanic]

Hi All,

i am still confused whether shall i take it or not, i have little scarred for taking steroids and just recently married but now i am very serious about body training never thought about any competition i am in IT domian i have done little research about steroid but that is mix experience like effects and side effects.

I know one thing is that access of any thing has bad so i don't wanna go for repeating cycle, if i start then only once as of now then i wanna maintain naturally

below is the cycle which i get it by my online research

test-E+Deca+Dianabol cycle but not sure whether this cycle is good or not


I saw result in my body but not sure whether what i am doing that is good or not or whether i need to continue or i have to change my schedule or diet.

currently i am taking protein 180 gm raw protein (stopped taking powder protein from past 10 days earlier i am taking muscle tech:- Nitro tech) and carbs also 180 daily one muscle exercise 7 variation 50 counts per variation (15-15-10-10) after that 10 min cardio(incline 12 and speed 7) then alternate day abs and daily plank(normal+Both Side)

but my tummy got stuck at 37 inch from last 45 days. biceps 14.5 inch, chest 42 inch, back 15 inch.

As of now still i am in dilemma whether i have to start cycle or not kindly let me know product and what what medicine i have to keep while on cycle to keep when i see any side effect also what medicine i have to take for pct and how with dosage.

if i gonna start then i will start from august 1st week so after you suggestion about cycle+medicine for side effect and PCT i will 1st keep handy all then only i will start.

Hope you understand my point and really appreciate for your advice here in indian guys who took they never share their knowledge and experience, if they share thay will change as i mention in my 1st post that is very bi amount.

Thanks in advance to all.

Brother this is my take on it, if u 15% body fat u don't wanna use deca and I would be reluctant to use anything that aromatases!!!
I was once too lazy to cut and get things right and I thought if I just kept using bulkers, that bulk muscle would hide fat!!!
It doesn't happen, u just loss more definition and look like a balloon and nothing like a body builder!

I look my best and biggest at low bodyfat%!!

This is Main thing that needs to be maintained low body fat%!!!
Single digets u get into single digets and learn how to keep it under 10% u can use whatever u want but try and stay low bf%

It's real simple nothing makes us big and nothing makes us cut. We gotta do the work and eat right train hard. But certain things can be used to avoid water or bloat or add hardeness!!!

If u gonna use gear start with only test. Deca shuts u down hard. Dbol can grow a nice pair of tits and so could deca, and just more test can too.

U need to learn how u respond to more test natural hormone first some of us are sensitive to estro some progest some no problem but if we mix, look out!!
U wanna let your body get slow response to these hormones don't make it flip.
I never had gyno but my brother had to cut them tits out!!

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[bhatisahab]

Big Beef/Iron/Muscle

thanks for your input i after your suggestion i will remove Deca and will save for latter if i am going to do cycle again.

tomorrow i will be going for testosterone test then after i will start my cycle with test only as big beef said "" slower & safer approach"

could you please help me with diet also means not exactly but roughly so i will get to know how much carb i need how much protein and how much fat i need to take on or after cycle because my goal is bulking+cutting(six packs)

 

[bhatisahab]

Big Beef/Iron/Muscle

i got the all the medicine

Test-E:- 250mg Once in week
Dianabol:- 30mg daily till 4 week

PCT

Nolvadex:- 40mg 2 week then 20mg last two week
Clomid:- 100mg 2week then 50 mg last 2 week

and just want few more information.

what medicine should be in hand for water retention & Gyno issue.

do i need to take while on cycle or only if i saw gyno & water retention issue.

roughly diet plan (Protein+Carb+Fat+calories) while on cycle and after cycle