Need some help in a cycle.

[rico1997]

Hello guys, so im 20 years old, and 5.7 foot, around 182 lbs in weight, and about 18-22 body fat.
I've been going to the gym since 3 years, didn't take any supplements in my first year, on the second and the third i took, and i have some experience in the gym, but not in cycling, i have read a lot, but on every page the opinions changes always. So i thought about posting here to get some help for my first cycle.
So i already ordered, i know i made a mistake of ordering that fast, so i ordered dianabol 20 (100 pills/20mg-pilll) and Clenbuterol (100 pills (40 mcg-pill). When i ordered them, i was thinking about doing a cycle of both of them together, dianabol to gain some muscles, and clenbuterol to burn some fat and to lose the water of the dianabol as i read.
And i have other supplements to use with them, as protein-preworkout-recovery-creatine-vitamins-bcaa-amino acids-zma. And im on a diet, and going harder on that diet.
Well i know i did a mistake, but whats the best to do with those two things for me? and what are the side effects that i will feel? and what about sex?
Anyway i bought from anabolic-steroids.biz (hope its a legit site as i have read) and both are dragon pharma products.
Thank you very much.

 

[IronJulius]

Welcome to MC and test only first cycle. You are 20 no need for steroids anyway. What's your pct? You say you have some fat well dbol can give you titties. Also have never heard anyone using clen and dbol same time

 

[Miguels]

3 years at the gym and still having trouble losing fat? 3 years is a long time to have gotten your diet and training on check.. should look into fixing that before jumping on any cycle.. you can drop to 14% natty
what weight have you started with and body%.. i dropped 115 lbs natty with just protein shake as supplement in less than a year

 

[rico1997]

Well i was 208 lbs, dropped to around 170 and started building some muscles and losing some fat at the same time and arrived around 160 lbs, then started going up, until last summer i had around 13-14 % bf, in the 2 months i stopped going to the gym.
i didnt buy any pct... had no idea. So ok im ready im going to buy other things than those 2,what do you suggest and only orals.
Thank you guys.

 

[rico1997]

and i also saw here that some guys did this cycle of dbol and clen, dbol to build and maintain the muscles, while clen for cutting and losing fat.
Why would anyone use Clenbuterol clen and Dianabol dbol together

 

[IronJulius]

You need to research more. The fact that you are running dbol without testosterone says a lot. The only thing you will get from you proposed cycle is titties. Maybe a good bit of strength on cycle for a few weeks but no muscle and you will lose it when you come off

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You may want to have kids one day and if you fuck up it's possible you won't be able to

 

[rico1997]

There is no oral testesterone ?
and please guys i need a full answer, like what should i take and how much and when and all those informations, because its my first cycle and i dont know a lot. Would appreciate the help.
and another question, as the clen isnt a steroid thing, can i take it alone? For losing fat? Or does it affect on the sex life?

 

[suraonyx23]

You shouldn't take that crap of a cycle your talking about. It's a bad idea. Don't take dbol without Test! And if you don't want to inject then you need to not do anything

 

[IronJulius]

There is no oral testesterone ?
and please guys i need a full answer, like what should i take and how much and when and all those informations, because its my first cycle and i dont know a lot. Would appreciate the help.
and another question, as the clen isnt a steroid thing, can i take it alone? For losing fat? Or does it affect on the sex life?

You need to research and I promise you will be glad you did

 

[rico1997]

I did researchs, opinions change, im here asking for help.
simply asking can clen be taken alone? Without pct after i finish taking it?
And there is nothing oral that replaces that test e?
I need help guys i have already ordered, i need to order the other things ...

 

[rico1997]

Im buying test, what type of test should i buy, Propionate or Enanthate or Cypionate? and is it fine to be taken with dbol only?
im thinking about doing a dbol with test cycle, then taking the clen alone. diet with both of them.
That would be fine ?
And what pct should i take?

 

[suraonyx23]

Well you're only 20 years old so you're too young. But your not going to listen to anyone. You are too young for anabolics

 

[rico1997]

I already bought them...
ok im not going to use the dianabol. But clen can be used alone? Its not a steroid.

 

[rico1997]

...?

 

[IronJulius]

I already bought them...
ok im not going to use the dianabol. But clen can be used alone? Its not a steroid.

Yes it can be used alone

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2 weeks on 2 off you can repeat that a few times

 

[IronJulius]

Also look into sarms they won't suppress your natural testosterone as much as steroids. Ostarine and GW might help with what you are trying to do. Keep researching real cycles and test E or C for 12 weeks is usually the best first cycle I would wait a few more years tho

 

[rico1997]

Hello guys, im looking for oral testosterone U, called androil or nedibo or anadoil or virigen and i cant find all of them out of stock from the sites i know, can anybody help me finding one please from a trusted site and send me a message, i would really appreciate that, i really need it.