Pct necessary with stacking Igf 1 and Lgd?

ljhopp

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I have read a few threads that say they didn't run a pct on Lgd and Igf. I have also read threads that say run a pct of clo after a Lgd and Igf cycle. What's the answer. I'm assuming running a Pct is the correct one.
 
Yes correct. Maybe not a full pct but a little more pct than you need isn't going to hurt right. I do clomid, hcg, and tudca


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I likely wouldn't if it were a low dose short run , but it sure can't hurt so I'd advise to especially on longer durations of lgd
 
It won’t affect your liver but a full PCT is advised after running LGD-4033. The suppression is higher than other SARMS (but lower than anabolics), thus the need for PCT.
 
I noticed very little shutdown with lgd. I ran it about a month. If I did it again, I would run it 6 to 8 weeks at 10 mgs. If you ran it that long, maybe a short pct. Everyone is different, but I don't think you'll notice much suppression.
 
depends on if your LGD is the real deal or if its a Pro-hormone . but either way only YOU can tell if your surpressed or not , its your testosterone (no one else can tell you if its low or not to pct or not) . so if your not wiling to get before and after blood work , then just go by how you feel . if your suppressed you'll know it and then you'll decide to PCT. (unless your low testosterone to begin with then you may not feel shit)
 
Currently running 100mcg Igf and 5mg of Lig. Plan running 50 50 25 25 for pct. But I haven't bought any yet and I have awhile till this cycle is done.
 
Currently running 100mcg Igf and 5mg of Lig. Plan running 50 50 25 25 for pct. But I haven't bought any yet and I have awhile till this cycle is done.

Are you running IGF LR3 or IGF Des ? I've ran both and from my experience IGF DES can be ran at 100mcg no problem , however if I run IGF LR3 at 100 or more then I de-sensitize to it very quickly (pumps start going away after a week) , however if I lower it to about 50mcg that seems to be the sweet spot to run it 4 weeks. Being IGF Des has such a short half life (7 mins) then you don't ever de-sensitize to it. LR3 lasts 12-18 hours and your body will de-sensitize quickly.
personally if your running LR3 I'd advise drop the dosage and you'll end up getting more out of it. IF your running Des then your right on the money at 100 mcg.

5mg of LGD is a bare minimum dose and your probably not going to be terribly suppressed by that dose (we are all diff though). Personally I'd NOT buy a pct and just go by how you feel towards the end. I'd also jump up to at least 10mg of LGD (not sure your stats, but 5mg is not a lot even if you are on the smaller side)

another option is to run a product called 'thors hammer' that will help keep shut down from sarms to a minimum and help keep your natty test levels going.. you can just run that the whole cycle and probably be just fine with no PCT needed, it also helps control estrogen
 
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Thats a whole lot of IGF 1 lr3 to be running your first go around brutha. Or have you run it before? Its been my experience that anything over 100mcg is a complete waste for me, and I dont feel the difference when going higher, like you do when you go from say 30mcg to 50 or 60 micrograms .

And the whole 4 week on and off thing is hogwash, although you’ll still find plenty of antiquated articles online stating to run 4 on and 4 off, but you can run lower doses of igf for a couple months no problem and NOT only still feel it working but really see the changes. For me week 7 was always when I could really see the changes from the very beginning.

I am also a “Less is More” kind of guy when it comes to everything, from hormones, to sarm and growth factors! I run 30mcg as long as money allows me and its made a huge impact on my physique, and not by way of muscle gains, but more so as a recomp tool. Its keep me lean and hard, and muscle bellies always full.

Timing is key with igf / food / training, and I personally carb deplete all morning , til mid afternoon and then carb load with my igf right before hitting the gym.

But I would rethink that igf 1 lr3 dosage daddio.

Oh and you should always have your pct ancillaries on hand, as you never know when you might need them for various reason. Many guys have waited thinking their cycle was not going to end for a while and they had time to buy their pct stuff, and then their cycle ends, and their pct needs never arrive on time, or maybe not at all for whatever reason, and then boom, your fucked cause you just met a hot ass Latina chick who wants to fuck your new found physique, but OH NO wait, your cock won’t get hard, lol,

Anyhow, you get the picture lmao
 
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I worked my way up from 40mcg, I've only been running 100mcg for like two wks, just to try it. I will drop the Igf back down to 70mcg and increase LGD to 8.5mg. Then see what happens.
 
Presser, just curious brother do you still get good pumps at week 7 of running IGF Lr3 as you did in say week 1 ??
 
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