Who has used CBD Hemp Oil?

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I am just curious who has used CBD oil derived from hemp, and if it really does help you relax or sleep better etc...

Seen a big sign at local supplement store and apparently people love this stuff.

So i was curious is all, and for those of you who have used CBD oil not from hemp but from Marijuana , how do u like that? Im not into getting high so im asking strictly as a health benefit on each one, as I understand the marijuana CBD oil is legal in a few states, but im sure that hasnt stopped some of you lol.
 
Most people that I know don't think it does anything at all. Their CBD is from industrial hemp though.

I'd just make my own through decarboxylation process. But that's just because it's harder to find it here.
You can probably find some good stuff in the U.S

It makes some pain go away and relaxes you.
 
thx said:
Most people that I know don't think it does anything at all. Their CBD is from industrial hemp though.

I'd just make my own through decarboxylation process. But that's just because it's harder to find it here.
You can probably find some good stuff in the U.S

It makes some pain go away and relaxes you.
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Thnx bro! I’ve been reading a lot of good reviews on it but it’s scary trusting a wholesaler to purchase from! The last thing I want or need like another hole in my head is to be sold the marijuana CBD oil unknowingly and get in trouble or even worse and impair someone who then gets in accident or whatever the case may be .

Ive been reading up on the hemp CBD oil and the so called “Entourage Effect” which sounds to me like some made up bullshit like the “ Mandela Effect” lmao

So any personal insight here is welcome
 
I feel like the whole CBD thing is just overhyped. But one has to try to know if it works.
I've been reading a lot about cannabinoids and what I've found in several articles is that if you want optimal function of the CBD you also need THC (and some other cannabinoids). So you pretty much need a spectrum of cannabinoids (THC and CBD are the biggest)
Since all this is illegal in the country that I reside in at the moment, it's hard to know what you actually are paying for. That is strains, CBD oils etc.

Wish I could be of more help. I think you should try CBD if it's legal, it won't give you a high like THC does. Even if it contains a small percentage of THC you won't feel anything.



Here is some random offtopic shit that I want to share.
This is my own opinion and everyone is different.

If you take your training seriously you should stay away from cannabis. This will hinder your gains and progress. It will mellow you out and the mind to muscle connection gets worse the longer you use cannabis.

If you're a bodybuilder you should really stay away since it will raise estrogen in most people. You'll get gyno, look softer in general etc.
I have only been mentioning the cons now, there are a lot of good things about it as well. Cannabis can help people a lot during offseason.

Here are all the pros:
It's a great way to relax, gives you better appetite and is a great substitute to alcohol since it won't give you a hangover and you won't feel like shit. A lot of people get anxiety and feel like shit in general when taking some compounds. Cannabis will make most people feel a lot better.

But as I mentioned before, I can't stress this enough. To be able to make gains you have to lift heavy and for that you need aggression.
 
thx said:
I feel like the whole CBD thing is just overhyped. But one has to try to know if it works.
I've been reading a lot about cannabinoids and what I've found in several articles is that if you want optimal function of the CBD you also need THC (and some other cannabinoids). So you pretty much need a spectrum of cannabinoids (THC and CBD are the biggest)
Since all this is illegal in the country that I reside in at the moment, it's hard to know what you actually are paying for. That is strains, CBD oils etc.

Wish I could be of more help. I think you should try CBD if it's legal, it won't give you a high like THC does. Even if it contains a small percentage of THC you won't feel anything.



Here is some random offtopic shit that I want to share.
This is my own opinion and everyone is different.

If you take your training seriously you should stay away from cannabis. This will hinder your gains and progress. It will mellow you out and the mind to muscle connection gets worse the longer you use cannabis.

If you're a bodybuilder you should really stay away since it will raise estrogen in most people. You'll get gyno, look softer in general etc.
I have only been mentioning the cons now, there are a lot of good things about it as well. Cannabis can help people a lot during offseason.

Here are all the pros:
It's a great way to relax, gives you better appetite and is a great substitute to alcohol since it won't give you a hangover and you won't feel like shit. A lot of people get anxiety and feel like shit in general when taking some compounds. Cannabis will make most people feel a lot better.

But as I mentioned before, I can't stress this enough. To be able to make gains you have to lift heavy and for that you need aggression.
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all good points, and i cant stand weed, never in my life did i enjoy it, and only been a high a few times in my teens, and sat there all paranoid and didnt move lmao. Howevr, this CBD oil interests me as over the years and training with many of the guys i have , a good bit of them love to smoke weed right before training, how they do it is beyond me, and a few said they liked smoking after a session in the gym, and im talking about big serious fellas that you see and know they understand how to train, so i was curious about this stuff since its so popular, and wondered how many members here or overall like to use this stuff.

As for the hype, yeah, as soon as I started reading about the “entourage effect” my first thoughts were , well someones pushing an agenda, but i honestly dont know man.

Then i read about health related effects it had on people, and of course thought about us.

My biggest fear would be the wholesaler sending me the wrong CBD oil, as I would only be allowed to sell Hemp CBD and if they say sent me Marijuana by mistake and someone got all fucked up, then my ass is grass, PUN INTENDED
 
Presser said:
all good points, and i cant stand weed, never in my life did i enjoy it, and only been a high a few times in my teens, and sat there all paranoid and didnt move lmao. Howevr, this CBD oil interests me as over the years and training with many of the guys i have , a good bit of them love to smoke weed right before training, how they do it is beyond me, and a few said they liked smoking after a session in the gym, and im talking about big serious fellas that you see and know they understand how to train, so i was curious about this stuff since its so popular, and wondered how many members here or overall like to use this stuff.

As for the hype, yeah, as soon as I started reading about the “entourage effect” my first thoughts were , well someones pushing an agenda, but i honestly dont know man.

Then i read about health related effects it had on people, and of course thought about us.

My biggest fear would be the wholesaler sending me the wrong CBD oil, as I would only be allowed to sell Hemp CBD and if they say sent me Marijuana by mistake and someone got all fucked up, then my ass is grass, PUN INTENDED
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Have some friends that can't smoke because they get paranoid as well.
I used to smoke before my workouts.Smoke half a joint before and then the rest post workout. Used to do PB on the benchpress while high.
Nowadays I can't smoke and train because it makes everything 10x heavier.
Used to get good pumps and everything in the beginning. My friends used to be the same, maybe we just got old as fuck early or something lol!

Haha nah don't worry! Just get it from a reputable shop and there are some really good brands available in the U.S so you will get the legit stuff.
Even if it contains a little bit of THC you won't feel it :)
 
I hate clen, I take it and I can't sleep and I shake. Well, a buddy of mine gave me CBD, Idk what brand or anything of the sort, I'm not prone to placebo, but it did relax me. Not in the sleepy sense, but it seemed to keep me alert, but not anxious. At the time I was taking it with Clen. I used it for 4 weeks total (CBD) so 2 weeks of clen at 80mcg with a dropper of cbd. Then 2 weeks of just cbd.

When I went back on clen after the 2 week break I quit 3 days in, couldn't handle the shakes and wired feeling without the cbd.

That's my experience with it. I didn't notice the pain relief others claimed. I did notice my shoulder, which has some nerve issues, not hurt as much. I would say a decrease in anxiety or stimuli helped sooth that, bc stimulants seem to exacerbate that condition for me sometimes exponentially. But the pain I have in my wrist didn't sooth out and back pain from work or deadlifts was still there.

All in all it did the job. Now my buddy claimed it took away the pain I mentioned as well, but he does smoke weed (thc) I do not. Only used the cbd, so maybe the reason?
 
guardianactual said:
I hate clen, I take it and I can't sleep and I shake. Well, a buddy of mine gave me CBD, Idk what brand or anything of the sort, I'm not prone to placebo, but it did relax me. Not in the sleepy sense, but it seemed to keep me alert, but not anxious. At the time I was taking it with Clen. I used it for 4 weeks total (CBD) so 2 weeks of clen at 80mcg with a dropper of cbd. Then 2 weeks of just cbd.

When I went back on clen after the 2 week break I quit 3 days in, couldn't handle the shakes and wired feeling without the cbd.

That's my experience with it. I didn't notice the pain relief others claimed. I did notice my shoulder, which has some nerve issues, not hurt as much. I would say a decrease in anxiety or stimuli helped sooth that, bc stimulants seem to exacerbate that condition for me sometimes exponentially. But the pain I have in my wrist didn't sooth out and back pain from work or deadlifts was still there.

All in all it did the job. Now my buddy claimed it took away the pain I mentioned as well, but he does smoke weed (thc) I do not. Only used the cbd, so maybe the reason?
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Dude i am right there with you on the clenbuterol , as it makes me so amped up that i get tired and constantly yawning.

As for the CBD oil helping your clenbuterol shakes, wouldnt that also offset the beneifts of clen in general, kind of making taking clen pointless if you know your going to use cbd oil to alleviate the shakes. I am guessing that it alleviates the clen shakes and anxiety in general through its ability to slow down your resting heart rate and counteract the clen for the most part.

Thats my guess anyhow, maybe im way off
 
CBD oil absolutely works. I use it for my bells palsy. You have to get a good brand with the proper ratio of active metabolites.
 
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[h=2]"Cannabidiol: Barriers to Research and Potential Medical Benefits"[/h]

Mr. Chairman, Ms. Chairwoman, and Members of the Senate Drug Caucus, thank you for inviting the National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA), a component of the National Institutes of Health (NIH), to participate in this hearing to share what we know about the biology and the potential therapeutic effects of cannabidiol (CBD), one of the main active chemical compounds found in marijuana. In light of the rapidly evolving interest in the potential use of marijuana and its derivative compounds for medical purposes, it is important to take stock of what we know and do not know about the therapeutic potential of CBD.
[h=2]Background[/h]To date, 23 states and the District of Columbia have passed laws allowing marijuana to be used for a variety of medical conditions. Fifteen additional states have enacted laws intended to allow access to CBD oil and/or high-CBD strains of marijuana. Interest in the potential therapeutic effects of CBD has been growing rapidly, partially in response to media attention surrounding the use of CBD oil in young children with intractable seizure disorders including Dravet syndrome and Lennox-Gastaut syndrome. While there are promising preliminary data, the scientific literature is currently insufficient to either prove or disprove the efficacy and safety of CBD in patients with epilepsy.i and further clinical evaluation is warranted. In addition to epilepsy, the therapeutic potential of CBD is currently being explored for a number of indications including anxiety disorders, substance use disorders, schizophrenia, cancer, pain, inflammatory diseases and others. My testimony will provide an overview of what the science tells us about the therapeutic potential of CBD and of the ongoing research supported by NIH in this area.
[h=2]CBD Biology and Therapeutic Rationale[/h]CBD is one of more than 80 active cannabinoid chemicals in the marijuana plant.ii Unlike the main psychoactive cannabinoid in marijuana, tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), CBD does not produce euphoria or intoxication.iii,iv,v Cannabinoids have their effect mainly by interacting with specific receptors on cells in the brain and body: the CB1 receptor, found on neurons and glial cells in various parts of the brain, and the CB2 receptor, found mainly in the body’s immune system. The euphoric effects of THC are caused by its activation of CB1 receptors. CBD has a very low affinity for these receptors (100 fold less than THC) and when it binds it produces little to no effect. There is also growing evidence that CBD acts on other brain signaling systems, and that these actions may be important contributors to its therapeutic effects.ii
[h=2]Preclinical and Clinical Evidence[/h]Rigorous clinical studies are still needed to evaluate the clinical potential of CBD for specific conditions.i However, pre-clinical research (including both cell culture and animal models) has shown CBD to have a range of effects that may be therapeutically useful, including anti-seizure, antioxidant, neuroprotective, anti-inflammatory, analgesic, anti-tumor, anti-psychotic, and anti-anxiety properties.
[h=3]Anti-Seizure Effects[/h]A number of studies over the last two decades or more have reported that CBD has anti-seizure activity, reducing the severity of seizures in animal models.vi,vii In addition, there have been a number of case studies and anecdotal reports suggesting that CBD may be effective in treating children with drug-resistant epilepsy.viii,ix,x However, there have only been a few small randomized clinical trials examining the efficacy of CBD as a treatment for epilepsy; the total number of subjects enrolled in these studies was 48. Three of the four studies reported positive results, including decreased frequency of seizures. However, the studies suffered from significant design flaws, including failure to fully quantify baseline seizure frequency, inadequate statistical analysis, and a lack of sufficient detail to adequately evaluate and interpret the findings.viiiTherefore, the currently available information is insufficient to draw firm conclusions regarding the efficacy of CBD as a treatment for epilepsy; a recent Cochrane review concluded, there is a need for “a series of properly designed, high quality, and adequately powered trials.”xi
NIDA is currently collaborating with the National Institute on Neurological Disorders and Stroke to evaluate CBD in animal models of epilepsy in order to understand the underlying mechanisms and optimize the conditions under which CBD may treat seizure disorders, and determine whether it works synergistically with other anti-seizure medications. In addition, clinical trials are currently underway by GW Pharmaceuticals, testing the efficacy of Epidiolex, a purified CBD extract, for treatment of pediatric epilepsy.
[h=3]Neuroprotective and Anti-Inflammatory Effects[/h]CBD has also been shown to have neuroprotective properties in cell cultures as well as in animal models of several neurodegenerative diseases, including Alzheimer’s,xii,xiii,xiv stroke,xvglutamate toxicity,xvi multiple sclerosis (MS),xvii Parkinson’s disease,xviii and neurodegeneration caused by alcohol abuse.xix Nabiximols (trade name Sativex), which contains THC and CBD in roughly equal proportions, has been approved throughout most of Europe and in a number of other countries for the treatment of spasticity associated with MS. It has not been approved in the United States, but clinical trials are ongoing, and two recent studies reported that nabiximols reduced the severity of spasticity in MS patients.xx,xxi There have been limited clinical trials to assess the potential efficacy of CBD for the other indications highlighted; however, a recent small double-blind trial in patients with Parkinson’s disease found the CBD improved quality-of-life scores.xxii
[h=3]Analgesic Effects[/h]There have been multiple clinical trials demonstrating the efficacy of nabiximols on central and peripheral neuropathic pain, rheumatoid arthritis, and cancer pain.xxiii In addition, nabiximols is currently approved in Canada for the treatment of central neuropathic pain in MS and cancer pain unresponsive to opioid therapy. However, the current evidence suggests that the analgesia is mediated by THC and it is unclear whether CBD contributes to the therapeutic effects.xxiv THC alone has been shown to reduce pain;xxv,xxvi we are unaware of clinical studies that have explored the efficacy of CBD alone on pain. However, the anti-inflammatory properties of CBD (discussed above) could be predicted to play a role in the analgesic effects of nabiximols. Recent research has also suggested that cannabinoids and opioids have different mechanisms for reducing pain and that their effects may be additive, which suggests that combination therapies may be developed that may have reduced risks compared to current opioid therapies. However, this work is very preliminary.xxvii
[h=3]Anti-Tumor Effects[/h]In addition to the research on the use of cannabinoids in palliative treatments for cancer—reducing pain and nausea and in increasing appetite—there are also several pre-clinical reports showing anti-tumor effects of CBD in cell culture and in animal models.xxviii These studies have found reduced cell viability, increased cancer cell death, decreased tumor growth, and inhibition of metastasis (reviewed in McAllister et al, 2015).xxix These effects may be due to the antioxidant and anti-inflammatory effects of CBD;xxx however these findings have not yet been explored in human patients. There are multiple industry sponsored clinical trials underway to begin to test the efficacy of CBD in human cancer patients.
[h=3]Anti-Psychotic Effects[/h]Marijuana can produce acute psychotic episodes at high doses, and several studies have linked marijuana use to increased risk for chronic psychosis in individuals with specific genetic risk factors. Research suggests that these effects are mediated by THC, and it has been suggested that CBD may mitigate these effects.xxxi There have been a few small-scale clinical trials in which patients with psychotic symptoms were treated with CBD, including case reports of patients with schizophrenia that reported conflicting results; a small case study in patients with Parkinson’s disease with psychosis, which reported positive results; and one small randomized clinical trial reporting clinical improvement in patients with schizophrenia treated with CBD.xxxiiLarge randomized clinical trials would be needed to fully evaluate the therapeutic potential of CBD for patients with schizophrenia and other forms of psychosis.
[h=3]Anti-Anxiety Effects[/h]CBD has shown therapeutic efficacy in a range of animal models of anxiety and stress, reducing both behavioral and physiological (e.g., heart rate) measures of stress and anxiety.xxxiii,xxxiv In addition, CBD has shown efficacy in small human laboratory and clinical trials. CBD reduced anxiety in patients with social anxiety subjected to a stressful public speaking task.xxxv In a laboratory protocol designed to model post-traumatic stress disorders, CBD improved “consolidation of extinction learning”, in other words, forgetting of traumatic memories.xxxvi The anxiety-reducing effects of CBD appear to be mediated by alterations in serotonin receptor 1a signaling, although the precise mechanism remains to be elucidated and more research is needed.xxxvii
[h=3]Efficacy for Treating Substance Use Disorders[/h]Early preclinical findings also suggest that CBD may have therapeutic value as a treatment of substance use disorders. CBD reduced the rewarding effects of morphinexxxviii and reduced cue-induced heroin seekingxxxix in animal models. A few small clinical trials have examined CBD and/or nabiximols (THC/CBD) for the treatment of substance use disorders; however, the available data are not sufficient to draw conclusions. NIDA is supporting multiple ongoing clinical trials in this area.
[h=2]Safety of CBD[/h]For reasons discussed previously, despite its molecular similarity to THC, CBD only interacts with cannabinoid receptors weakly at very high doses (100 times that of THC),xl and the alterations in thinking and perception caused by THC are not observed with CBD.iii.iv,v The different pharmacological properties of CBD give it a different safety profile from THC.
A review of 25 studies on the safety and efficacy of CBD did not identify significant side effects across a wide range of dosages, including acute and chronic dose regimens, using various modes of administration.xli CBD is present in nabiximols which, as noted earlier, is approved throughout most of Europe and in other countries. Because of this, there is extensive information available with regard to its metabolism, toxicology, and safety. However, additional safety testing among specific patient populations may be warranted should an application be made to the Food and Drug Administration.
[h=2]Research Opportunities and Challenges[/h]This is a critical area for new research. While there is preliminary evidence that CBD may have therapeutic value for a number of conditions, we need to be careful to not get ahead of the evidence. Ninety-five percent of drugs that move from promising preclinical findings to clinical research do not make it to market. The recently announced elimination of the PHS review of non-federally funded research protocols involving marijuana is an important first step to enhance conducting research on marijuana and its components such as CBD. Still, it is important to try to understand the reasons for the lack of well-controlled clinical trials of CBD including: the regulatory requirements associated with doing research with Schedule I substances, including a requirement to demonstrate institutional review board approval; and the lack of CBD that has been produced under the guidance of Current Good Manufacturing Processes (cGMP) – required for testing in human clinical trials – available for researchers. Furthermore, the opportunity to gather important information on clinical outcomes through practical (non-randomized) trials for patients using CBD products available in state marijuana dispensaries is complicated by the variable quality and purity of CBD from these sources.
[h=2]Ongoing CBD Research[/h]The NIH recognizes the need for additional research on the therapeutic effects of CBD and other cannabinoids, and supports ongoing efforts to reduce barriers to research in this area. NIH is currently supporting a number of studies on the therapeutic effects as well as the health risks of cannabinoids. These include studies of the therapeutic value of CBD for:

  • Treatment of substance use disorders (opioids, alcohol, cannabis, methamphetamine)
  • Attenuation of the cognitive deficits caused by THC
  • Neuropathic pain due to spinal cord injury
  • Mitigating the impact of cannabis use on risk for schizophrenia
  • Examination of the potential of CBD as an antiepileptic treatment
It is important to note that NIDA’s mission is focused on drug abuse; studies related to the therapeutic effects of CBD in other areas would be funded by the Institute or Center responsible for that program area. For example, studies related to epilepsy will likely be funded by the National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke or by the Eunice Kennedy Shriver National Institute of Child Health and Human Development, while studies related to schizophrenia will likely be funded by the National Institute on Mental Health.
[h=2]Conclusion[/h]There is significant preliminary research supporting the potential therapeutic value of CBD, and while it is not yet sufficient to support drug approval, it highlights the need for rigorous clinical research in this area. There are barriers that should be addressed to facilitate more research in this area. We appreciate the opportunity to testify on the potential use of CBD for therapeutic purposes. Thank you again for inviting me here today, and I look forward to any questions you may have.
 
All that shit about pot causing gyno is horseshit. As well as hindering gains. You either like It or you do not. As far as CBD oil. It is proven to be effective at proper ratio and concentration. No psychological or hallucinogenic effects needed. Reefer madness, lol smh.
 
Don’t catagory here lol but the CBD oil interest me in terms of whether it’s worth carrying in our store. The hemp one is legal so that’s the only one I’m curious whether it works or not
 
Dean Destructo said:
All that shit about pot causing gyno is horseshit. As well as hindering gains. You either like It or you do not. As far as CBD oil. It is proven to be effective at proper ratio and concentration. No psychological or hallucinogenic effects needed. Reefer madness, lol smh.
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You can believe what you want. Pot raises estrogen that's a fact. All people that I know that smoke a lot of pot are skinny and have bitchtits. Some have tits the size of bob's in fightclub some have smaller.

It hinders gains because you can't focus when you're in the gym. You're relaxed so you don't get the same strenght, contraction and mind to muscle connection.

Don't want to be a dick to you bro. This is just my experience and people that I know that are true potheads say the same thing.

My progress when I smoked for 1 year was not good. Even though it helped me a lot with appetite.

My progress all the other years when I didn't smoke are a lot better!

I'm talking about daily use. Smoking all the time. Not weekend smoking.

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Presser said:
Don’t catagory here lol but the CBD oil interest me in terms of whether it’s worth carrying in our store. The hemp one is legal so that’s the only one I’m curious whether it works or not
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Some people say it works, some say it doesn't. Just be sure to find a good and reputable source.
It's still uncharted territory.
 
There was a really good segment on it on Dateline NBC last week on Sunday, May 20. See if you can watch the segment. Stuff really works, and as soon as I am able to where I live, I aim to try it to see if will help with the daily pain and inflammation I get from hemochromatosis.
 
thx said:
You can believe what you want. Pot raises estrogen that's a fact. All people that I know that smoke a lot of pot are skinny and have bitchtits. Some have tits the size of bob's in fightclub some have smaller.

It hinders gains because you can't focus when you're in the gym. You're relaxed so you don't get the same strenght, contraction and mind to muscle connection.

Don't want to be a dick to you bro. This is just my experience and people that I know that are true potheads say the same thing.

My progress when I smoked for 1 year was not good. Even though it helped me a lot with appetite.

My progress all the other years when I didn't smoke are a lot better!

I'm talking about daily use. Smoking all the time. Not weekend smoking.

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Some people say it works, some say it doesn't. Just be sure to find a good and reputable source.
It's still uncharted territory.
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Double blind studies proving its efficacy is not "uncharted territory". Everything you said above is anecdotal evidence. Now caffeine on the other hand , is proven to flare gyno, through studies and anecdotally.
 
Presser said:
Dude i am right there with you on the clenbuterol , as it makes me so amped up that i get tired and constantly yawning.

As for the CBD oil helping your clenbuterol shakes, wouldnt that also offset the beneifts of clen in general, kind of making taking clen pointless if you know your going to use cbd oil to alleviate the shakes. I am guessing that it alleviates the clen shakes and anxiety in general through its ability to slow down your resting heart rate and counteract the clen for the most part.

Thats my guess anyhow, maybe im way off
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Not sure about that. I feel energic from cbd esp when I use stimulants. Stimulants alone can get me so energetic that im tired not sure why?
 
I have a family member that has Tourette's and she told me that she can use it and with in minutes her ticks almost go completely away. It works better for her than any of her other meds.
 
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