Gears fully based on Ethyl Oleate , questions

Hi Bros !
First, I wanted to tell everyone "hello" as a new person on board.
Below - a case over i'm currently working:


I have read several threads about ethyl oleate. I came up with the idea of preparing gears based on 100% EO.I know very well what is said about how people react to it. However, in my case, discussed side effects do not occur, and the best thing I took was just on ethyl oleate ...
I mean here - test prop Ukrainian pharmaceutical company Farmak - the official pharmaceutical product based fully on Ethyl Oleate. (Those funny letters, once decoded - sound "raztvor dla iniekcji w etiloljeatie" which means - injection solution based on ethyl oleate.



The solution is transparent is transparent, exactly as it was described in the thread from the link about the high quality ethyl oleate (http://www.musclechemistry.com/uplo...on/68976-big-secret-behind-eo-pip-solved.html) - smooth,comfotrable, painless .

Also Vermodje products (quite known in central europe undergound brand) are based on EO - they are totally painless, without any discomfort.

Here my question - if you choose to use 100% of the EO base, should I change something in the recipe? Or should I just replace oil for EO and follow the steps?
And the same question in more complicated case - oil based Winstrol - Just replace oil on EO or change something in the recipe?

I will be very grateful for answers.

Greetings
Marecki

marecki_urs said:

Hi Bros !
First, I wanted to tell everyone "hello" as a new person on board.
Below - a case over i'm currently working:


I have read several threads about ethyl oleate. I came up with the idea of preparing gears based on 100% EO.I know very well what is said about how people react to it. However, in my case, discussed side effects do not occur, and the best thing I took was just on ethyl oleate ...
I mean here - test prop Ukrainian pharmaceutical company Farmak - the official pharmaceutical product based fully on Ethyl Oleate. (Those funny letters, once decoded - sound "raztvor dla iniekcji w etiloljeatie" which means - injection solution based on ethyl oleate.

The solution is transparent is transparent, exactly as it was described in the thread from the link about the high quality ethyl oleate (http://www.musclechemistry.com/uplo...on/68976-big-secret-behind-eo-pip-solved.html) - smooth,comfotrable, painless .

Also Vermodje products (quite known in central europe undergound brand) are based on EO - they are totally painless, without any discomfort.

Here my question - if you choose to use 100% of the EO base, should I change something in the recipe? Or should I just replace oil for EO and follow the steps?
And the same question in more complicated case - oil based Winstrol - Just replace oil on EO or change something in the recipe?

I will be very grateful for answers.

Greetings
Marecki

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Friend, EO is solvent itself. Any multidose vials SHOULD have silicone stoppers. If the product sits a year or more the stopper CAN start to dissolve. I'm not saying it wlll but MCT oil is a cheaper alternative.

Some folks have bad reaction to EO even small amounts like 10%

Unless you are going high mg gear I would just stick with usual oils

Thank U Guys for your response
As for the disolve of the stoppers - I managed to get a vial with rubber stoppers secured with Teflon (I know that sounds strange, but because a few weeks of searching - I was offered to this kind of solution to the problem).
IronJulius , so You think that the problem with EO, not necessarily lies in the fact that the low-grade EO is done on Soya (which is a strong allergen)?
I was able to raise this topic in a forum of students of the local department of pharmacology. I got a suggestion of this kind - EO soy based , itself is allergic, also reactions similar to allergic can cause injection of a solution with a high concentration. And EO (usually purchased in internet stores) is used in high concentrations - so it's extremely unfavorable combination regarding to the side effects we are talking about....I was curious to see how it can go on good quality EO ,non soy and on lower concentrations (as test prop from Farmak - there are no negative reviews).
I know very well that the students are usually theoreticians, because of this i headed my inquiry here. Once again sincerely thank you for your answers.

I use high percentages of EO(30% or more). I use lab quality EO and I have never had a reaction thus far.

I believe most UG labs use atleast ~10% EO solution to reduce viscosity.

Dean Destructo said:

I use high percentages of EO(30% or more). I use lab quality EO and I have never had a reaction thus far.

I believe most UG labs use atleast ~10% EO solution to reduce viscosity.

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Bro, have U ever try 100% EO?

I only use EO when absolutely necessary. Nothing against it but MCT don't require much else unless your pushing limits


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About 8 years ago I used Farmak test prop. It was only 50 mg. in an ampule, but was incredibly cheap. It was made with EO oil and there was no PIP at all. It was the smoothest injection I ever had. I never tried any again because the dosage was too low.

Another reason I never bought any more Farmak was that it was widely counterfeited. It had a paper label and they would put another paper label on it saying it was 100 mg. test prop. Farmak also made a 25 mg. ampule and they would change that to 50 mg. Always selling it at a higher price.

Bro, from what i know , Farmak is a very well-tested gear .

I will never use Ethyl Oleate again, Not at any percentage! Shit crippled me and had very bad reaction, like allergic reaction, shit aint for me

Also read EO can degrade rubber stoppers

some peoples are allergic but very few i brew mine 2%ba 15%bb 30%eo and rest miglyol840 havent recieved any complaint ..

I use to get gear from a company that used 100% EO no oil at all for every hormone and it was really good but EO is a toxin and I wouldn't bother with it unless you absolutely need it but there are some other chemicals if you look into research journals etc from pharmaceutical companies especially years ago to see what they tried. I make most of my gear in 100% organic fractionated coconut oil and love it. Shit is smooth and health but tren ace doesn't work well it tends to come out cloudy. I've also used MCT oil to make gear. But these days I do anything to stay away from EO and Guaiacol. You really don't need it. You can make test base in peg 400 with ba and bb it won't crash and is typically very smooth with no pain but you need to be sure to heat it to melting point because even peg and bb will have it liquid prior to reaching its melting point and that's when it crashes or may crash in depot. You would think it would be thing but its not. I always add ba as a last step once my solution has cooled to around 60°C because ba will evaporate especially at the temps you need to reach to make tne or oil based winny so there's other options. I've made a ton of tne and winny in peg 400 bb and ba nothing else and I couldn't make it fast enough.

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