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    How difficult is it to conver raws into a useable oil? I bought premade oils so long and the idea of brewing provided it is simple and not time consuming.

    What all would i need to do it?
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    If they are semi finished oils you would have to filter theM
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    Quote Originally Posted by guardianactual View Post
    How difficult is it to conver raws into a useable oil? I bought premade oils so long and the idea of brewing provided it is simple and not time consuming.

    What all would i need to do it?
    what are you talking about brutha? hormone powder to finished product? or as Grizz asked, semi finished products? you kind of lost me, not that I would be much help in this area anyhow, but I’ve converted fina pellets a long time ago lmao
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    go to the steroid powder recipe discussion and start looking at some of the post there. that's where i started my research on it. it isn't as difficult as i thought it might be.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by guardianactual View Post
    How difficult is it to conver raws into a useable oil? I bought premade oils so long and the idea of brewing provided it is simple and not time consuming. What all would i need to do it?
    If you just need to filter it get syringe filters (pain in the ass to filter) or bottle top filter (pvdf) and brakebleeder vacuum pump.
     

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    i thought about the funnel filters and they certainly would be easier, but for the amount i do at one time, it isn't advantageous to use them. they are great if you're doing 100ml or more, because i've heard you lose about a vials worth through them.
    the syringe filters waste a whole lot less, and are a pain. if i make up 30 to 50, even sixty cc's, i use a quart size caulk gun to push it through. muscle mechanic had a picture of a set up on here some place.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by pgb View Post
    i thought about the funnel filters and they certainly would be easier, but for the amount i do at one time, it isn't advantageous to use them. they are great if you're doing 100ml or more, because i've heard you lose about a vials worth through them.
    the syringe filters waste a whole lot less, and are a pain. if i make up 30 to 50, even sixty cc's, i use a quart size caulk gun to push it through. muscle mechanic had a picture of a set up on here some place.
    I know another way that would be a lot easier to filter but pain in the ass to sterilize (hate that part). Just send me PM and I'll help you out.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by guardianactual View Post
    How difficult is it to conver raws into a useable oil? I bought premade oils so long and the idea of brewing provided it is simple and not time consuming.

    What all would i need to do it?
    how easy? well let's compare...if you can open a can of beer,you can brew a few from the basic roids without problem.
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    They are powders. I plan to keep it simple. I seen the brew formulas, haha but i wasnt sure all that went into it, outside of what i seen written like x amount of bac x amount of alcohol i know the ingredients haha, just wasnt sure what I had to do to the powder beforehand and how easy it is?

    It definitely seems cheaper to do.

    (Side note, not asking for sources just do powder suppliers do smaller quantities? I dont need 1000grams haha just enough for 12 weeks. Give or take)
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    Quote Originally Posted by guardianactual View Post
    They are powders. I plan to keep it simple. I seen the brew formulas, haha but i wasnt sure all that went into it, outside of what i seen written like x amount of bac x amount of alcohol i know the ingredients haha, just wasnt sure what I had to do to the powder beforehand and how easy it is? It definitely seems cheaper to do. (Side note, not asking for sources just do powder suppliers do smaller quantities? I dont need 1000grams haha just enough for 12 weeks. Give or take)
    Most do send out smaller quantities, but it's expensive. Get more, trust me you'll run out
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    So, brew it and store it as normal. It should last like 2 years or more shouldn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by guardianactual View Post
    So, brew it and store it as normal. It should last like 2 years or more shouldn't it?

    i just use a syringe filter and make up a few vials at a time. i've made as little as just one vial.
    all the recipes i've done only use 2%ba, 18% bb, and the remainder in oil. don't forget the powder.
    figure i gram of powder is close to one ml displacement.
    ex. if you wish to make up 5 grams of mast p and make it at 100mg/ml. you'll need five 10 ml vials. you could put it in a 60 ml vial, but you'll be drawing from it regularly and could wear the stopper out, haha. 5 grams will make 50 ml, so you need 2%x50=1 ml ba. 18%x50=9 ml bb.
    now you have 5 grams powder so you have a total of 1 ml+9ml+5ml= 15 ml. therefore you need
    50-15=35 ml oil. i use gso and a lot of people seem to prefer it. use more than 35 ml oil. powder displacement is less than 5 ml.

    so to make 50 ml mast prop at 100mg/ml
    5 grams mast p
    2%ba (1 ml)
    18% bb (9 ml)
    37 ml oil of choice. use a little more than 35 ml, because the displacement of the 5 grams will be actually less than 5 ml.

    you'll also need a couple of glass beakers at least, glass stir rods are handy, one ml, 10 ml, and at least a 20 ml syringe. you can use a 60 ml, but it is a bear pushing finished oil through a filter with.
    20 or 18 ga needle. syringe filter, you can use a .45 um for first filter, then a .22 um. i just use the .22 um. preferably use pvdf filter, don't use pes or nylon. vials, caps and stoppers or sealed vials. you'll need a crimper, if you cap your own. if you use sealed vials you'll need a vent needle, a half inch 27 ga will do. if you do it right, it should last at least a couple of years. read the thread about meds expiring. can't remember the darn exact title. it was a good read.
    it takes me about an hour or so to brew, but i take my time and stay focused so i don't contaminate it or mess something up. i don't mind setting aside the time for it, because the result is i made it. i know what's in it for certain. i haven't gotten the zit problem as bad as some of the gear i've gotten from a couple of ugl's as well. i hope this helps and wasn't too confusing.
     

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    as a side note, do not use metal instruments with your powdered. it can impart properties to the powder you do not want, as well, the metal could possibly be magnetized and leave parts in your gear. i prefer to use as much glass as possible. it is more inert
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    Go to Basskiller's site. Instructions with pictures.
     

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