Insulin only

[Bently]

Looking for some of you with insulin experience. I have used it once, added to the last 3 weeks of my last AS cycle. I worked very well.
Now, I've been off about 5 weeks, had surgery on my hand so am just getting back to some lifting, having to use alot of machines so that I can push without needing to grasp anything tightly. Because of the surgery, being out of work and basically inactive for 3 weeks, not having an appetite, I dropped 10 lbs.
Now for the question.....in another week as my workout intensity increases I am considering adding in the insulin without AS. I would do 8-10 IU post workout initially, then after a week I would change to 6-8IU in the morning on workout days only (4 days/wk) then another 6-8 IU post workout. Has anyone used insulin only and were the results worthwhile?

KR

 

[BiggerStronger]

Looking for some of you with insulin experience. I have used it once, added to the last 3 weeks of my last AS cycle. I worked very well.
Now, I've been off about 5 weeks, had surgery on my hand so am just getting back to some lifting, having to use alot of machines so that I can push without needing to grasp anything tightly. Because of the surgery, being out of work and basically inactive for 3 weeks, not having an appetite, I dropped 10 lbs.
Now for the question.....in another week as my workout intensity increases I am considering adding in the insulin without AS. I would do 8-10 IU post workout initially, then after a week I would change to 6-8IU in the morning on workout days only (4 days/wk) then another 6-8 IU post workout. Has anyone used insulin only and were the results worthwhile?

KR

Yes bro....the results are definitely worthwhile. That is why Insulin is great to use as a bridge in between cycles.

I would suggest you also take creatine with your post workout shake with the insulin as it will allow more creatine to be absorbed into your muscle and the gains will be a bit better.

Just make sure you have your diet worked out and hopefully you should make some great gains. How did the insulin affect you last go around?

 

[Bently]

Thanks for the response Biggerstronger. Last time I only used it the last 3 weeks of my AS cycle, my wait had been stuck for 2 weeks prior. Once I started the insulin I gained 5 more lbs over the last 3 weeks. So I believe it definitely helped alot.
KR

 

[BiggerStronger]

Thanks for the response Biggerstronger. Last time I only used it the last 3 weeks of my AS cycle, my wait had been stuck for 2 weeks prior. Once I started the insulin I gained 5 more lbs over the last 3 weeks. So I believe it definitely helped alot.
KR

Awesome! I've heard of some bro's gaining 10-20+lbs in 4 weeks or so using just insulin, creatine and a good diet. You may gain a little bit of fat, but you'll also gain a good deal of muscle. Definitely worth it. Good luck with that and if you have any questions please post them.

 

[LabRat]

I never used except in a cycle when my weight plateaued and I went from 230 to 250lbs in a month along with supps and hard training.

Be careful bro nothing to mess with keep carbs around if you get shaky, tired or start slin shock.

I was pretty tolerant of it was doing 10 iu (not cc!!!) in morning followed by a good complex carb drink with at least 100mg carbs and same post workout about 6 pm at night 10 iu followed by carbs.

Complex carbs are more suited as they release much like human type "R" does in a slow rate like 2 hrs same as type "R' peaks in an hr to 2 hrs than rapidly declines.

 

[LabRat]

some info I dug up on GH and slin

good article but I would NEVER use over 20 iu a day.

Growth Hormone And Insulin Use



I would Like To Thank "Ry Roid" For The Article



Insuling and Growth Hormone are very dangerous. This is not for new steroid users and should only be used by those that know a great deal on the subject, both the positive and negative effects. If not used properly, Insulin and Growth Hormone can cause death. If anyone is ever considering using GH or Insulin, they must be very very careful.



I am not going to write about the boring stuff you usually read about GH and insulin because that is what I have always read. I am not a doctor so when I read an article about something I am interested in I don’t want to be put into a coma. The fact is GH has been around for a long time but, due to customer demands going up it is more easily purchased then when I started. I remember guys paying $1,500 for a kit and now they can be purchased for less than one-third that price. Insulin, however is relatively new in the bodybuilding world. So lets get to it.



Insulin



Insulin is basically a hormone produced by the pancreas used to regulate glucose levels in the body. It brings glycogen and other nutrients in the muscles. It works by attaching itself to another protein on the outside of cells called the insulin receptor. This causes a change in the metabolism of the cell. Insulin increases protein synthesis and causing cell to suck up amino acids from blood so that the cell can make protein out of them.



Insulin and Hypoglycemia



If you don’t consume enough carbohydrates after insulin is taken then hypoglycemia can happen. In a nutshell, if carbohydrates aren’t sufficient enough then this will cause your muscles to suck up so much glucose from your blood that not enough is left for your brain. This can and will lead to hypoglycemic shock and possibly drop you into a coma.



Growth Hormone



Growth Hormone is produced by the pituitary gland. It promotes growth of tissues, protein deposition and the breakdown of subcutaneous fat stores. GH also stimulates growth in most body tissues due to increase in cell numbers rather than cell size. The transport of amino acids is also increased as well as protein synthesis. GH levels skyrocket during years of adolecence and drop off dramatically as you get older. This is why it also gives the effect of looking younger. This is, of course, the reason why I use it. That was a joke people.



GH and Insulin Used Together



GH and Insulin work better together than they ever would alone. This is because they complement each other very well. GH increases glucose output in liver and induces insulin resistance by blocking the activity of this hormone in target cells. Basically GH helps to make insulin better utilized by the body. The body will need an increased amount of thyroid hormones, insulin and androgens when GH levels are elevated. There is also the fact that when using these two together you won’t have to worry as much about the fat gained by insulin because GH will negate that as a fat burner.



Dosing Theories

GH



This has been a subject of debate for a long time now. The guys that used to tell me to use GH year round were also selling it so you figure it out. I do believe it works very well used year round but, because I also believe using GH w/ insulin, T-3 and an array of juice makes it superior this theory is not an option by most. The reason I say this is I don’t exactly want to stay on T-3, Insulin and juice year-round and end up dead. Let’s not forget the fact that it can get expensive. I have tampered w/ medium to higher doses for shorter amount of time and found them to be just as good as year round. Recently I also tampered w/ short 4-5 days of high doses then 6 days off and found them to be ideal while bulking up. Basically, for good results a dose of 4-6iu’s split into 2iu shots for 8-12weeks will suffice.

Here is an example of each:

Year-Round = 4-6iu’s 4-5 days a week

8-12weeks = 4-6iu’s 5-7days a week

Short Duration = 10-16iu’s for 4 days Off for 6 days

*Remember to take shots away from natural GH secretion times. Avoid before bed and directly after workout shots. If you lift in the morning try to take a shot before the workout and wait at least 2 hours after your workout to take another one.



Insulin



Insulin is something you don’t want to take year round unless you want to end up a diabetic for life. I believe using for 6-8weeks to be an ideal amount of time. The best times to take insulin are right upon waking up and after your workout. During bulking up I take it before every meal but, do as I say not as I do.hehehe



Timing of insulin and GH shots



I have collaborated with many people and used personal experience and found that taking GH shot one and a half hours before your insulin shots proves to be optimal. The GH gives the effects of lowering insulin resistance. So taking the GH shot before your insulin shot makes more sense doesn’t it? I personally split up GH shots into 2iu shots spread over The entire day. So for days I am using 10iu’s I would do 2iu’s 5 times during the day.

An example GH and insulin schedule would like like this:

4A.M-2iu’s GH

5:30A.M-10iu’s Insulin

7A.M-2iu’s GH

8:30A.M-10iu’s Insulin

10AA.M-2iu’s GH

11:30A.M-10iu’s Insulin

1P.M-2iu’s GH

2:30P.M-10iu’s Insulin

4P.M-2iu’s GH

5:30P.M-10iu’s Insulin

Keep in mind that I have been doing this for a long time and you should not attempt this unless you have a good decade of juicing under your belt.

Growth Hormone and Insulin have been the reason for all the huge gains made by bodybuilders. Now everyone can achieve huge gains and still stay safe. I hope that I have answered all questions everyone has been having about GH and Insulin. I just want everyone to get as huge as they possibly can. So what are you guys waiting for??? Get to it guys!!!



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[Bently]

Thanks DG, I definitely aproached its use with caution the when I tried it with my last cycle. I started at 5IU and worked up to 10IU. There were a couple times I started feeling the hypoglycemia coming on, got shaky and dizzy but always had some sort of carbs on hand so I was ok. I also had my wife read up on it so she could keep an eye on me for any signs or sleepiness.

 

[arms2]

Great Post!!!

For years bros would keep Insulin use a secret . I first found out about bodybuilders useing Insulin from the pharmist , when I would go fill my prescripions for my test,Deca, anadrol 50, He would always tell me I would become a Diabetic. So I asked him why would taking juice make me a diabetic? He said that all the bodybuilders he knows are all diabetics!!I said how do you know that ? He said because they all take Insulin.LOL. Now this was way back in 1984 , when some docters would prescribe Juice to bodybuilders. Ya that was the good old days. Thanks for having the balls to post this !!!!! Bro,

 

[sweatmachine]

Im just swelling on slin......IM SO Bloated!

20iu post workout......

 

[dpsquat]

slin

i have ran it as a bridge and it wroked GREAT! was big and lean ( post USA). anyway i wish i could time it right on carb up though!..

Im just now hitting it hard and will hadit in in a week or so!

 

[Bently]

Re: slin

i have ran it as a bridge and it wroked GREAT! was big and lean ( post USA). anyway i wish i could time it right on carb up though!..

Im just now hitting it hard and will hadit in in a week or so!

DP, have you used it with pre-contest too?

 

[crankin'stein]

I have used it alone a couple times.

Once was during cutting, which I believe you are going to be doing????

The insulin worked great, but you really have to pay attention to everything that goes in your mouth while the slin is active..... You are taking two shots a day so it is even worse. Humalog or Humulin R?? I would say you should decide which one depending on how well you can pay attention to everything you are eating and when...... What I mean is if you need to eat a meal at 10am, that you eat it at exactly 10am. Also that while the slin is active, you have proper food to eat so you don't have to grab Mcdumpys...... Because slin is great, but it doesn't know the difference between fat and protein..... It will transport everything more efficiently. So eat clean!!

Another thing you can do is try and not use the 10g of carbs per IU of slin rule. Now this is different for everyone and you need to be careful when testing your tolerance. But most can go down as low as 5g per IU. This will help you stay lean while using the slin, and not gain fat hopefully. I suggest starting with the 10g rule, then slowly taking it down a bit each day..... but have something on hand in case the amount of carbs you took wasn't enough.

Sorry for the long response..... Hope it helped.

 

[GetnBigr]

good refresher info, it's time to add slin in my cycle